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Danny Everett, Dallas, Texas — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:46:05 GMT

I maybe judging the book by its cover, but I am ambivalent over many of the issues as they are presented in this series. The health concerns of breast cancer, heart disease, and diabetes are significant and must be discussed along with the missing issue of HIV and AIDS amongst African American women. But the fact that more African American women are attending college than men speaks volumes of how African American men find it difficult to “prosper” in a society that castrates them culturally, socially, economically, and politically well before they become men.

For Tuesday, for instance, I challenge the redefining of “Black America’s family and social structures” to be conjecture lacking evidence of the deeper issues of slavery and the resulting mental psychosis and economic disadvantages. African American women’s successes educationally and in the business arena are not the only defining factors of successful relationships between African American men and women, but that’s not a real concern for this series. Success can not adequately be defined because prior to the constitutional amendments that provided African Americans with freedom and citizenship, the nuclear family was more widely a European concept. Mara Schiavocampo’s “Nightly News” focus on interracial dating exacerbates the issue. Also, the hip-hop discussion is irrelevant. When the issue moves to the commercial rap music industry away from hip-hop culture and when European American men stop buying the music then African American women will not be dehumanized in the lyrics and videos. Unfortunately, it’s all a market driven game.

On race trumping gender or gender trumping race, the important thing is being missed. We will not have a European American male as the next president of the United States. More power to Obama, Clinton, and Richards. Race and gender trump racism and sexism!

Clearly African American men, successful or not successful in business, educated or uneducated, imprisoned or not, lose out in this series. African American men and women are hemorrhaging and this series seems to take a snap shot with no real solution, at least for the men.

I wish for once there was a series, even a one-hour, non-commercial documentary on present day African American men who take care of their children and other’s children whether married or divorced, respect and love all women, are responsible citizens, seek out education, have a strong spiritual focus, and still engage in the struggle to uplift humanity.

As a 47 years old African American man, I can’t take another beating so I plan to skip this one. It won’t be hard because I can only play DVDs on my TV. With the price of gas, I can't afford cable or satellite.

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Shirley Rivens Smith, Washington, DC — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:20:00 GMT

I don’t believe any thing is more damaging to Black Women and our people then the lack of us showing and teaching our children respect for others and themselves, the importance of education and belief in God.

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Lorraine Blake, Cambria Heights, New York) — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:37:45 GMT

African American Women and Where They Stand...what time will this air?

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A, VA — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:57:08 GMT

I'm glad someone is FINALLY calling attention to our plight! It's not about rallying the sympathy of the American people...it's about people respecting our position, influence, and importance in OUR collective society.

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Bob Alexander, Austin, Texas — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:01:03 GMT

I come as a friendly critic with an urgent plea:

Your viewers would be better served if you were to add one additional segment-what NEEDS to be done to alter-change the societial harming situation you report.

Too Often we spend 90% of the air time describing the reality and a mini-second offering a solution. WOW! As a society we strive to be , do, better.

Help us do that.

Bob Alexander

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Monica P. Sirmans, Florence, South Carolina — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:55:56 GMT

We are a non-profit African-American org. performing services for communities on abstinence education and family relationships. We would like a copy of this five-part series, "African-American Women:Where they Stand". How can this be achieved?

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Yvonne C. Hunnicutt — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:56:28 GMT

I applaud NBC for conducting such a sensitive but much needed discussion regarding the challenges of African American women. I hope these nightly conversations will not only address the cosmetic views of the varying disparities of AA women in politics, health, workforce, education and the economic areas, but also uncover the core issues relating to the conspiratory factors that has caused such alarming gaps.

I will be certain to view each segment and hope there will be a follow-up plan to address the series. Thank you.

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Akila Kincy, Kansas City, MO — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:58:15 GMT

Since I've already missed it, here’s a question I have about Tuesday’s installment:

Should we be concerned with how many of us have not yet been married, compared to white women, or should we be concerned about how many of those 16% of white women have already been divorced, and how many times? I believe there are plenty of black women between 25 and 54 who haven’t been married, but are in loving long-term relationships. No, I’m not delusional…I'm also aware that many of us have been in relationship after endless bad relationship, but there’s always a brighter side, right?

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Pearl Jr, Los Angeles, California — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:31:53 GMT

As the author of the book, Black Women Need Love, Too, I'm most excited about watching this series. I hope this series represents a reality that most Black women face and not some propaganda that still reinforces some type of subliminal racism that promotes more of a mammie mentality and disses Black women as if all of our problems are our fault.

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kayla, saint charles, missouri — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:06:19 GMT

another sad attemp by whitey to paint the AA woman in a negative plight. why so much focus on AA women or black folks for that matter? hmmm... to divert the attention from what your own white women are doing? why are AA women, who are a small percent of the population, always being compared to white women who are a much larger percent of the population? why don't you all focus on why YOUR women have such a sexual facination for little boys. talk about why white women experience a greater incidence in breast cancer than AA women and their health issues. why do white women kill their husbands/boyfriends/children MORE than AA women. something must be wrong in the white community don't you think?

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Christine, Las Vegas — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:15:57 GMT

I cant wait to see this on Nov 26. I was so excited that I thought it started On Nov 20th I was up until 11pm ha ha ha crazy. I'm a young black woman living in the U.S and I'm glad that finaly someone is talking about black women and what "WE" go through in this country. Black women have for to long sat on the back burner of America. Now its our time to step out of the shadow of the so called "black community" and America that has raped, beaten stepped on and disgarded us like garbage. I hope this segment on African America Women and were we stand will open up the worlds eyes to what black women go through everyday. Thank you

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SASJ, Raleigh, NC — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:36:55 GMT

I think that the series on African-American Women sounds very informative. However, in addition to having people from within the hip-hop industry on a panel about the portrayal of Black Women, Mara Schiavocampo should also have an "outsider" such as Gina McCauley on the panel. She blogs on What About Our Daughters? which is devoted to countering the negative images of Black women in popular culture and Gina, who is also an attorney from Texas, is listed as one of the 25 most influential/inspirational people in the December 2007 issue of Essence magazine along with Oprah and Obama! The panel should have balance and Gina is the ideal person to add that balance. Check her out.

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Mister Oura, Albuquerque, NM — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:54:50 GMT

I am kind of glad that the Black Women and HIV issue isn't being presented or presented fully because a Black face alone on HIV is NOT the best face in the fight against the virus. The virus should have EVERY face on it because it affects every face. By focusing on HIV as a Black person's issue alone in any presentation gives some the false idea that any other group should not put forth effort in finding a cure for the disease because it "does/will only affect them (Black People), and not me and my children." Yes HIV in the Black community is a SERIOUS problem, but as long it's affect is among a group that can be labeled "them," it will continue to remain a silent deadly killer instead of being a virus on the run from all of us. Kill the stigma of the deadly disease as it is currently associated to a single race, culture and gender, and more people will want the disease dead. HIV/AIDS must be stopped for all of us of every race, culture and gender, but mostly for the children.

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K. Moore, Charleston, SC — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:39:23 GMT

I think I will see a wait and see attitude to this series. I hope it isn't another situation where white people still refer to us as "them" even though we are Americans who pay our taxes and obey the law and care for our families the same. I also think I would have liked a black woman to have started this series; I am leery of what kind of perspective this white woman really thinks she can bring. We'll see.

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Nubian Queen — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:25:23 GMT

Are Black women the Enemy? YouTube vloggers examine
this question. There is a conspiracy to emasculate
Black men and Black women have been used in carrying it out! Black women aren't properly nurturing their sons, which is why they are falling behind as early as pre-school age. Black women unite around many issues, but never the issue of helping their failing sons! NBC please expose how slavery hurt the nurturing process of Black women! Thank You.

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sean j., chicago, illinois — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:57:55 GMT

we don't need white america to tell us that we have some problems. we already know that whites have more issues than any other race in this country. all one has to do is turn on msnbc and look at the mountains of white men and now women who are sexual predators. as for marriage, there are many black women who are getting married to black men and other races of men. why do white people feel it neccessary to constantly say that we aren't and never will get married? for us to be such a small percent of the population, you whites sure do devote a lot of time on black people.

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N Meredith, San Francisco, California — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:56:16 GMT

I became aware of this series by way of a list that I am subscribed to and read the entire description of the series and the topics which will be focused on. I am not waiting in anticipation of this or any particular report, simply because I think that we all have the capacity to define our own individual realities and I really try to stay clear from socially conditioned group think. I did notice however, that the issue of DIVERSITY seems to be missing here as there were not any topics addressing African American lesbians as well as the roles which homophobia (particularly in the African American community), racism, sexism, gender bias and heterosexism play their experiences.

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Sharon Brown, St. Louis, Missouri — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:12:50 GMT

It sounds very interesting! What time?

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Mes Deux Cents, California — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:30:23 GMT

You will mention in your so-called report that there are more Black women in college than Black men. Will you also mention that there are more White women in college than White men? What damage is that causing in the White community?

This is just more propaganda.

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James Erdmannczyk — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:37:55 GMT

Dear Mr. Williams:
It was the night before Thanksgiving. I had discovered that on this dark eveing, it was also an eveninng for nurses in the emergency room, fire fighters on duty, and policewomen on duty.

But, of these women, I assume in Warner Robins their is a equal ratio of black and hispanic proffessional women working at the same time.

I then thought, which of these black women professionals who deal with emergencies in their job will act upon a call for help.

I then thought that it is the good sumaritan that may reach these professionals.

Yet, then what is it like for women professionals if they have to think for the safety of others and also have to report the news like Rhema Ellis.

Monday November 19th, I was amazed at a story that I just could not see uncovering and beginnning in front of me in Atlanta while I was sketching The Capitol, in a serious meeting in the Capitol, and also how serious the discussions I had with Atlanta City Hall officials who deal in approving of construction. Most of the city hall officials I spoke to were black women skilled in their job of Muncipal Codes and Ordinances and how much freedom they had given me to speak to them.

Most every one gave me insight and direction! These city hall officials even led a nun in her habit going on a mission walking on Washington Street at the cross street of Mitchell Street in front of The Capitol. It was like they were responding to 09/11/01 and stopping it from happening or should I say had decided to use their insight from 09/11/01?

Sincerley Yours,
James Erdmanczyk
Registered Voter

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Bennet Marco — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:43:02 GMT

Bravo NBC for another racist sesssion! Why don't you burn a cross while you are at it. When black women go missing- Natasha Norman anyone?- you don't even give them the time of day since they are NOT WHITE. All of a sudden you are concerned about black women? Obviously you have to feel better about yourselves every so often by putting black people down. Keep it up!

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Gina from What About Our Daughters — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:29:13 GMT

We too will be watching at http://whataboutourdaughters.blogspot.com to see if this is more anti-education propaganda.

Why is the fact that a bunch of Black women are going to college treated as a negative, a DISPARITY. As if by having black women pursuing and education is a BAD thing. Lovely. Just. Lovely NBC. Why not couch it in terms of achievement or success?What other group of folks on planet Earth going to college would be couched in terms of a DISPARITY??? We ought to be HAPPY that Black women are being entrepreneurial.

HERE WE GO, the whole " Black women are going to die old, alone, single and be eaten alive by nine cats because they went off to college and got an education. OH I can already see my blog will be hopping next week. FOOLISHNESS ALERT.

We'll be waiting to see if this is more defeatist propaganda. If it is, we'll be calling NBC on their crap!

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Rudy, Memphis, TN — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:16:24 GMT

A news series devoted to black women? Especially considering that they're deemed last on the totem pole in U.S. society. I think I will see a wait and see attitude to this series.

Mes Deux Cents, this is a series on African American Women. Now when they create a series on White American women they can mention the disparity of gender between white undergraduates in college.

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Derrek Evans, Atlanta Georgia — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:29:42 GMT

I'm always amazed at how the perceived inability of AA women to establish healthy interpersonal relationships with their male counterparts always gets pinned to the inadequacies of the black male. Dumping the dating and marital frustations of AA woment into the melting pot of "black male inadequacies" is irresponsible journalism. You have a responsibility and a duty to get beyond the surface and dig out the truth Instead, like many of your fellow colleagues, you've sought the path of least resistance and succumb to impregnating our cultural ear with precepts that will give birth to concepts, that will make our conclusions all wrong. Should you decide to dig deep enough, you may be surprised to learn that it's probably a good bet that 50% of the women between 25 - 54 who have never been married, could be directly related their own idosyncracies. In other words, men who were snubbed because because they were'nt professional athletes, entertainment personalities or making six figure salaries just to name a few. To my knowledge, it's interesting how the media (black or white) has never attempted or completed a credible survey to examine the opinions of black men relative to finding a "qualified" black woman. However, being that our character is flawed, it's reasonable to assume that our opinions would be flawed. If you were on the front lines of this issue, you would know that these days, black women put so much energy into proving they don't need a man, then turn to media sources to complain about not being able to find a compatible mate. Maybe....just maybe.......they drove them away! If the truth be told, "it's just as difficult for a black man to find a good black woman, as it is for a black woman to find a good black man." It's a struggle on both sides and exposing only the character flaws of black men as the "lynch pin" for black women's marital and dating frustrations, only polarizes our relationships and propels functional black families into extinction. The fact that interacial marriages amongst black males, as well as black females are surging, strongly suggest that we're getting tired of each other. Just what the doctor ordered!

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S. Renee White, Garner, NC — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:59:07 GMT

I will watch this series this week, but I must admit my bias. While all of these issues are very real within our community, I am not sure if this does not paint the “black woman” as victim. In my own personal universe (which certainly can’t speak for the experiences of all black women), I personally know several women who are breast cancer survivors, who enjoy healthy relationships with men, and each other. Likewise, I personally know men who marry black women, take care of their wife and children. Where are your stories of our triumphs? The issues that you will address this week affect many women in our community. However, an issue, I am willing to bet, affect even more (if not 100%) is how they have triumphed over racism, whether in the workplace, in housing, etc. Furthermore, while I do advocate black folks taking responsibility to find solutions for our community, all of these issues can be traced back to institutionalize racism in America. At any rate, I will watch the series and hopefully the stories will prove my perceptions wrong.

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T.O., Chicago,IL — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 04:23:27 GMT

WHAT TIME DOES EACH SHOW COME ON??? PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME - WHAT TIME (CST) DOES THIS AIR???

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LaDell A. Virginia Beach, VA — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 04:40:33 GMT

I know that there are issues in every race. As an AA female I see and work within the AA community. There are many issues that could be addressed, however no matter how many times these issues are addressed, nothing will change. AAs always have problems with other people telling them what they should be doing. There is nothing wrong with bringing attention to us. In bring attention there may be hieghted awareness to the right people, the policy makers. Everyday there is a fight in DC to try to stop Public Health funding from being cut. In order to change some of the issues including AA females dying from heart disease (preventable), AIDS (preventable), breast cancer (treatable when caught early). I mean this will hopefully be a program where awareness will be raised enough to have the right people (those of power) want to take action and help us thrive. If no one else brings attention to it, we (AAs) sure are not going to do anything for ourselves. It seems after MLK Jr died so did the spirit in the AA community. So we need to stop complaining about the white folks and let any one that wants to help us, help!! I really do have more to say but I don't want to see anti-anything, when I really want to help, but we are a frustrating people to work with!!

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Tawanna Black, Omaha, NE — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 04:42:12 GMT

Thanks, NBC Nightly News for starting the examination of the challenges African-American women face, with this series. The Omaha Chapter of the National Coalition of 100 Black Women, will be hosting viewing parties, to not only engage others in watching the series, but to begin a serious dialog on the impacts and opportunities in local communities across the country, of the plight and disparities that we still face in this country. I encourage other leaders to do the same...if you can't host a live viewing party, host discussion forums at a later date...we must begin to acknowledge and address our collective and indivual power to overcome.

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day.break — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 04:50:53 GMT

Check local listing for TV broadcast of NBC (Nightly) News, Monday-Friday, 6:30-7 p.m. ET.
Also, i believe that you can catch a replay on the internet after 10PM(?) at www.msnbc.msn.com (look under Nightly News).

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Ruth Logan — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:25:50 GMT

As an African American school Founder/CEO it would have been nice to have been able to participate in this series. The fact that I founded and opend my own private school that serves students with learning disabilities, without the assistance of any big name funders or local school officials I think would have been a good story. I would like to show other African American women interested in starting their own business, that it may seem impossible but with faith, hard work, dedication, many prayers, and family support all things are possible.

Though it has been a difficult year and 3 months, we have continued to press on giving our students all the individual attention required for their academic and social growth. Fully certified by the District of Columbia State Educating Agency, to service students with specific learning disabilities; we strive to see our students successfully complete their high school diploma and go on to college.

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Bernard Chapman — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:58:12 GMT

Unfortunately, the reality is that Black society has lost its value system, neglects as one writer noted, its responsibility for its children, especially its sons and has not taught our women how to sustain a relationship with a man. I have high praise for Black women, for the failures they now experience are not of their own making. Back in the 60's when white women were seeking access to the labor pool for reasons of self actualization, our Black women had already been pulled into the labor pool as a matter of economic survival. These white women, also had the benefit of family networks nearby, who could help with child rearing, since white families, did not experience the great migration(and dislocation) from South to North in pursuit of jobs. So our kids, particularly in urban areas were left without parental supervision, or famimilial guidance, while both parents worked. When white women, said as Germaine Greer wrote, that a woman without a man was like a fish without a bicycle, our women, unfortunately went along and felt they could make it without their Black men. Unfortunately, now 30-40 years later, we are experiencing a generation of Black women, who while well schooled in the art of survival, are inept in the area of sustaining relationships and buidling a family with a male. Remember the guidance of Black mothers to Black daughters throughout the nation, back in the 60's and 70's to "hide something away for yourself". Sadly those same Black Mothers so well versed in sustaining their own relationships,did not pass along that knowledge. Now as for Black men.

We too fell into the trap of popular culture, guiding our morality and our social mores. Remember how songs, such as the "Ohhh Girl", by the Chi-Lites, spoke of "letting the woman take care me" as if that was the sign of the valuation of her the manhood of her partner. In Superfly and other Blaxploitation movies, the kept man was deified as the Holy Grail of male role models. What that really taught our iimpressionable young males was to make ourselves expendable in our relationships. What woman wants a man,who cannot help protect her and her children, help manage the challenges of life, help prepare the family for future days when income earning capacity is diminished, in other words, the only value the man could bring to the relationship was his imagined sexual prowess...which we now know, as the increasing rate of interracial marriages show, is possibly more imagined than real. And whatever skills he mght bring certainly don't provide sustainable sustainable benefit to the male-female relationship.

So both of our relationship roles were terribly damaged by popular culture, we fell for solutions developed for a different situation experienced by the majority, but deleterious for us. And it is happening again, when we allow, even promote the self flagellation seen in the Black music industry, perpetrated by those same Black youth, primarily males, who were never taught how to respect a woman in their homes, by a strong Black male and now who from their commercial bully pulpits, shower our women with abuse and degradation. Shower out men with physical abuse and model, that low value of Black life by always promoting a quick trigger, or hard fist as the solution...yet when have you seen a rapper, foster their violent nature upon any creature other than a Black woman or man? When have you seen those "fearless" drug dealers stand on the corner in any neighborhood, other than ours? Or those of our Hispanic brothers and sisters? Yet they speak of such courage to challenge authority...

So as we migrate the challenges of our current situation,which does not have to be a permanent state, we'll have to learn how to mend our relationships, build respect for the uniqueness of each gender and its role in the relationship, create that sense of greater love for our kids than we have for ourselves and consecrate our elders for the battles they fought and won on our behalf.

As an expatriate, I will miss the show, but I'll be reading he website each day and the Blogs to see how it is received.

Warmly and respectfully,

Bernard

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HellOnHeels, Houston, Texas — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:07:14 GMT

I just hope this is not one-sided. As a Black woman I often find that we are all grouped together as believing in one thing and feeling one way. That is simply not true and I hope these segments reflect the many facets of Black women. The last thing I need is to have to go to work the next day and defend who I am as a Black woman in America.

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CJ, Wash, DC — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:04:19 GMT

As I read the comments about the upcoming special, I began to wonder why now, why this time of year, why just before Christmas would you air a report to remind the African American family of their shortcomings, their lack of medical care and their rising rate of disease, the timing is astonishing to me. One reason of many reasons AA women have rising numbers in diabetes and cancer is due to the stress that society has put on them. In alarming numbers, it is the AA woman's responsibility to feed, cloth, house, and care for her entire family in some cases her man as well. When a woman is borderline diabetic it will likely turn to full-blown diabetes due to stress. What use to be a rising rate of health problems among AA men has now been transferred to the AA woman because now she is the head of the household, she has become the main source of income for the family. I'm not going to blame anyone else for African American problems, yeah it may be harder to get a job, that's why AA women have decided to go back to school to get a degree, she has to and she should be commended for that, not made to feel guilty or looked down upon because Caucasian woman show better percentages. It's funny how the exact number of Caucasian woman polled compared to the exact number of AA women polled are never shown, but if that were shown I guess it would have a much less effect on what is really being said. College could also be an avenue for the AA men but some would rather sit back point fingers and blame someone else while the AA woman does not have time to do because she's got a family to feed. The AA woman has to make things work in a way it will benefit her entire family even if it does kill her in the process. I praise AA women because they put up with prejudges in their family, in their community and also on the job, but as a whole she still manages to make ends meet at the end of the day.

African American Woman in this country I commend you, and I thank you, hold your head up, never let THEM keep down!

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Kevin Harewood — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:18:36 GMT

Many years ago the great Gil Scott Heron had a song called "Winter in America". The key hook line is "It's Winter Winter in America and ain't nobody fighting because nobody knows what to save." This song written thirty years ago is exceedingly relevant today. This show is but a bit part of a very large story about todays black community. If it starts a dialogue that enables us to slowly come up with solutions I am cool with it. Sometimes you have to over exagerate the negative to get to a positive. Unfortunately too many of the few black media outlets we have are also not promoting positive efforts in our community or dealing with the negative influences in our community. Too often they perpetuate the "it is the man who is causing us problems" when some of the problems are perpetuated by ourselves. Sure their is institutional racism. It has been going on all of this countries existance and is getting more sophisticated every day. We as black folks have to figure out a way to build our own edifice. "The Man" has proven he is not going to do it for us.

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KP, Bethesda, Maryland — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:46:33 GMT

It would be helpful if you would let viewers know what time the series will air in various time zones. I've looked everywhere on the website it's very frustrating.

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Telisa Johnson — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:50:10 GMT

Black women are in need of a stronger belief in God. There are so many facets of Black Women, I cannot speak for all women, but for me my self as a black woman - I rely on the father above. He is the only one who has the best intentions for me and knows what lies ahead. He has blessed me with the things that I have, but most of all He has blessed me with WISDOM - Godly WISDOM.

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Martha R., Chicago, IL — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:01:46 GMT

We'll be watching and talking about it in relation to the article "Open Season on America's Black Women?" which i feel is the quintessential article addressing this matter. Looking forward to the NBC series; hope they do a fair, accurate job addressing how unjustly black women are treated in this country, by the media and black men. Black women just want black men to be MEN and respectful of their own and of themselves.

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L. Williams — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:09:02 GMT

I am so tired of all the disillusioned Black people that are so caught up in what "The Man" and "White America" are doing to us. I hope this series will explore what we are doing to ourselves. Historically, Blacks have had tremendous challenges in this country since the middle passage, and now we have more "freedoms" than ever before. However, we have more issues within our communities and class disparities between us than ever before. Yes, there are more Black men of college age in jail than college, yes, Black on Black crime is ridiculously out of control, (just last week in Chicago, 2 Black male college/graduate students were slain days apart), yes, Black drop out rates, health care indifference, teen pregnancy, discretionary spending, disrespectful rap lyrics...all these things are of epidemic status! Yet, we want to focus all of our attention on some knuckleheads in Lousiana and Don Imus. I think if King were alive, he'd think we had lost our minds...

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Marty Tabbath — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:30:15 GMT

I applaud NBC, knowledge is power, so knowing about this important issue will hopefully stimulate others to take action on the details we see and hear that impact us individually and collectively. I also would like to see solutions portrayed for not only the AA female, but the nearly extinct AA male, who has throughout history been depicted as the under dog. Let's began a process for lifting up the endangered species, AA male.

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nancy harris — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:03:32 GMT

I'll reserve my opinion until after the broadcast but I agree with Dan Everett, Dallas TX. Black women have always been allowed to fare economically. My father said that when he was growing up in Tenn in the 30s and 40s Black men and women didn't make so much of an issue of who was more educated. It wasn't unusual for a school teacher to marry a carpenter. They had a deeper understanding of why Black men were barred from the mainstream.

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Shamina, Jackson MS — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:28:49 GMT

I am so happy that NBC is doing this segment. Why all the criticism before the segments even air? We shouldn't be so quick to judge. If they were doing a segment on caucasian women, we'd be upset and wondering why they aren't doing one for us. But finally, they're highlighting african-american women and we should at least be supportive until we have a reason not to. I swear, I wonder if "they" can ever do the right thing in our eyes. Stop being so ultrasensitive!

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Gail Brown Louisville,KY — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:30:21 GMT

Thanks, Bernard....well said!

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Michael Lang — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:42:08 GMT

Danny,

You stated "Clearly African American men, successful or not successful in business, educated or uneducated, imprisoned or not, lose out in this series.

An extensive series has already been done on the plight of the African American male. I believe last year the Washington Post did an extended series on black men, called "Being a Black Man." The URL is http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/interactives/blackmen/blackmen.html. A book has also been written and is out in bookstores now, which compiles all of the articles from the series into book form. I would encourage you all to not only read it for yourself, but pass it on to the black men in your family and in your close circle.

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A. Harris, Minneapolis, MN — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:46:02 GMT

I will reserve comment on the series itself until after having watched it. But I am struck by the comments that it is an attempt to be racist, point fingers of blame at black women and black men. Often we complain as a community that we don't have a voice in America, that everything is slanted toward white america.

I'm a educated black woman living in Minneapolis. A city where I can assure you that no one is interested in or respectful toward black women, mainly by black men, followed closely by white women. While this is a generalization, and not true of all citizens of this city. Many, many, many black women who move here, move away or live a life of silent anger, invisibility in this community, and feelings of abadonment by our brothers who actively chose white women over us. I am among them and will be moving as well. I am excited that for once, for a week, that focus will be put on us - our strengths and opportunities to improve. Day after day i have to hear about white america, mostly what's right about them. White culture is pushed upon us, while our culture is steadily imitated by them. They hate us and want to be us all in one breath.

Now if we get to the end of the week and it was handled horribly, I'll voice my disappointment then. I do wish they would address black women and HIV though. I'm very curious to see the explanation of our marriage rate. As a single professional black woman in Minneapolis, I am OFTEN passed over for white women without so much as a "hi". Would like to know white women's divorce rate too. However, I don't experience that outside of here. Lastly, I'm interested to see how we have contributed to our own successes and our own setbacks. How a small percentage of us perpetuate the stereotype of black women as promiscuous through media outlets (mainly rap videos), or how it is portrayed for us on tv, movies, and even commercials.

My hope is that this will be a fair and informative reporting of our reality, because this is a very dangerous subject to not get right NBC, i hope you know what you're doing.

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Ellen, Monroe, Louisiana — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:53:41 GMT

Okay, let me understand this. We now need another TV "news" series on the "black" experience. To tell us what? I guess we need to know that more black women die because of poor medical care. I guess we need to know that the hip-hop music that is now being passed off as "art" and or "free speech" demeans and objectifies black women. I guess I need to be "grateful" that NBC is willing to devote some a few minutes to my reality.

Perhaps we all need to stop being grateful and demand more...from the corporations that we spend our money with, the churches we attend, the employers we "give" our talents to, to our children that we sacrifice our happiness for. WE BLACK WOMEN have to demand more than a short....series devoted to a few snapshots in our experience as black women in this society.

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Black Love4Life, NC — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:58:29 GMT

I have enjoyed reading all the comments from my brothers and sisters above. I am somewhat skeptical of what this series is going to "really" address and its impact on my African American community and the perceptions that will be formed from those outside of my community. However, since I am not yet aware of any black stations that will consistently cover the issues in our community, and work diligently to resolve them...I guess I will just watch what MSNBC has to say about the issue. So many of your comments are right on target, and if you missed it...you need to scroll back to the top of this blog and get the fullness of responses prior to responding yourself to avoid repetition. Several key points stand out: the impact of slavery on the African American community is real, while there are more African American women in college than men...this also holds true for other races and we are not alone in this plight; there absolutely is and has always been less resources available to African American men to be successful and those that have made it have struggled severely to get it; African American women are looking to other races for marital bliss although there are many issues that surround this decision; and finally racism is still alive and well in America, particularly when incidents like the Jena 6, OJ on trial again, Michael Vick going to jail for dogfighting, attacks on Barry Bonds, TI arrested for security guards having guns...and the highlight of any black male doing something wrong in Hollywood. I can't remember if anyone went to jail for killing horses in the movies, or chicken fighting, or dog fighting for that matter in ole West Virginia...I digress...Nonetheless, I love you my brothers and sisters...and regardless of what the media may paint...I know that you love me too...and I will never give up on you. That's real...from an educated, IT professional black female, married to a black male taking care of his wife and 6 kids. And yes, we are the parents of them all. Thought I'd throw that in there to keep it really real.

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Toi Holliday, Rancho Cucamonga, CA — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:42:11 GMT

As a 37 y.o. AA woman, I say WE have come a long way. We can no longer depend a man (black,white,or green)riding in town on a white horse to support us and the children we bare for them. We must look to empower and better ourselves by any means necessary for the simple fact of survival, self existence, and a better future for us and our families. Therefore, Education is the key to our continued success. However, on this road of success while caring for others and taking care of what needs to be done, we tend to forget about No.#1, ourselves. This leads to stress, bad eating habits,preventable diseases, etc. Furthermore,the family structure must continue and finding a mate of the same racial group is not critical, but finding someone with the same values, views and love is most important. Strong families make a strong community, strong communities make a strong nation. With a strong nation we will come together and vote for the best candidate not based upon their gender or race.

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Lisa, Atlanta, GA — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:48:46 GMT

I hope the NBC Nightly News workforce is diverse and that there were many African American colleagues who reviewed the entire series in advance and were able to provide input, making sure that what airs does not offend and/or misrepresent us.

My fear is that, like too many shows/documentaries/articles, the series will perpetuate the downtrodden African American woman stereotype instead of providing the stereotype-shattering FACTS. For example, it's important to point out that AA women die of breast cancer more than other women, despite the fact that they get screened at equal rates. But it would also be valuable to inform America that AA women are less likely than white women to smoke or drink during pregnancy and have reduced teen pregnancy at a faster rate than any other racial group. Enlighten America on the fact that AA's have significantly lower rates of underage drinking than most other racial groups, including whites. I only know these things because I work in public health; these FACTS are inconsistent with the false images of AA women (and men) that are portrayed in the media over and over again. Your show is an opportunity to set the record straight on a lot of misconceptions people have about us.

I am really looking forward to viewing the series. I hope to hear about all of the Black women who despite racism, despite sexism, despite classism (in some cases) have managed to not only survive but to excel.

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Brooke, New York, NY — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:55:12 GMT

I feel as though most of the comments that have been posted are incredibly silly and defensive. Black people need to stop blaming white people for all of our problems. Institutionalized racism exists. Slavery happened. Too many black men are in jail. Got it. We need to be talking about solutions, not blaming white people. If there are a disproportionate number of black women and men in college there is a problem that needs to be addressed. If it is the same in the white community it needs to be addressed as well, but not by me because I’m concerned with solving problems in my community first. I can barely believe I am writing this, but clearly some black people haven’t got the message that you need to help yourselves and stop blaming others. Do not depend on anyone to give you anything. No one should be defensive regarding the topics discussed in this series. Everyone should be saddened and brainstorming solutions. Knowledge is essential and I guarantee this series will teach everyone something new. Watch it and become a part of the solution.

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Suburbanbushbabe — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:55:43 GMT

"Nearly two-thirds of African-American undergraduates are women. At black colleges, the ratio of women to men is 7 to 1. And that is leading to a disparity in the number of African-American women who go on to own their own businesses. Rehema Ellis will talk to educators, students and businesswomen about why this disparity exists."

Disparity between what? AA women and AA men who own their own businesses? So I guess successful women who go on to run their own businesses -- uh, that's a problem? I smell an agenda and propaganda, and it stinks.

There may be balanced reporting elsewhere in this series, but sexist and racisit statements like the above don't make me hopeful, or eager to watch yet another report on the "problem" of black women achievers.

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Suburbanbushbabe — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:56:38 GMT

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Angela B., Van Buren, MI — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:59:17 GMT

I agree that there is a great disparity in the African-American community amongst men and women just as it is amongst African-Americans and Caucasians. But, in answering the question why, one must look at our country’s history, how the laws are applied based on how one looks or how wealthy they are, and the opportunities allotted to some versus others. Until the playing field is balanced (i.e., truly equal opportunity for all!) the disparities will only continue to grow wider.

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Lavera Floyd, Dayton, Ohio — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:06:24 GMT

I am concerned about how AIDs/HIV is addressed. I believe that as long as the majority think that AIDS/HIV is just a problem among Blacks -- then the majority (White) also believe that the problem stops there and does not affect them. When I see 99 young Black males out of 100 with White female lovers -- and allegedly primarily Black males are giving AIDS/HIV to Black women -- you can not help but wonder if there is a problem with White women getting AIDS/HIV. If so, the public needs to know about it. And if the White women are getting it, are White males in more danger than what the media and physicians are telling them? After all AIDS/HIV does not discriminate base on skin color and sex.

Let's talk about breast cancer among Black women. Isn't it true that, more often than not, Black women produce more hormones, i.e., oestrogen and progesterone. During the olden days, especially during slave time, Black women were considered to be sexier than white women, partly because they produced more female sex hormones. The ovaries also produce some of the male hormone, testosterone. During puberty, oestrogen stimulates breast development and causes the vagina, uterus (womb) and Fallopian tubes (that carry eggs to the womb) to mature. It also plays a role in the growth spurt and alters the distribution of fat on a girl's body, typically resulting in more being deposited around the hips, buttocks and thighs. Testosterone helps to promote muscle and bone growth. I have yet to see so-called health specialists and physicians adequately address hormones as one of the possible causes of breast cancer and other cancers in the Black females. For the most part they are not too familiar with the causes nor the treatment.

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Prtty blk, Los Angeles, CA — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:24:31 GMT

Danny E.,

I have a problem with the idea that black men still feel that they are so attacked/ "castrated." Black women are attacked on their jobs and in their communities the same but the difference is, (old saying) black girls are raised, black boys are loved. It wasn't easy for me as a black woman but the difference between black women and men is that, while some many blacks as a community may complain about their situation, many black women will suck it up and persevere through all the bull crap. What Black Americans have forgotten is that we are stronger, more talented, more spiritually blessed and so, others who recognize that and are intimidated by it will sometimes make it harder for us. Our lives have always required more responsibility but it seems the idea of responsibility have eluded many blacks today, especially black men. It is NO fairer for black women than black men. It is just black women more so, have accepted that complaining about your situation will do nothing to solve any problem.

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Laura Grimball, Charlotte, NC — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:30:15 GMT

I am very interested in these facts and would like to know if I can get a copy of dvd/tape for future viewing?
Thank you.

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Stacy — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:34:32 GMT

DERRICK in ATL -

IF Nearly two-thirds of African-American undergraduates are women AND At black colleges, the ratio of women to men is 7 to 1.
HOW EXACTLY do you think these women are going to find QUALIFIED MEN to date/marry???? We do not tell WHITE WOMEN to marry the garbage man, street sweeper, etc... Only African American women are told to lower their expectations -- ALL THE WHILE, Black men such as yourself are feeling REAL FREE to Date/Marry EVERYTHING BUT an African American woman (especially if they have more than $5).. IF you can't FIND a QUALIFIED AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN IN ATL - it is because YOU DON'T WANT ONE. The Black woman to Black man ratio in ATL is a SOLID 10 to 1 - and MANY of these sisters are DOING VERY WELL for themselves - they just want someone who can be an EQUAL PARTNER and not someone they have to support!!!

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Wendy Hines, Minneapolis, MN — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:41:33 GMT

How can I get a copy to share with a group?

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Marsha B, New York, New York — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:49:25 GMT

I'm glad to see that NBC will focus on major health issues of African American women, but there is one health issue that constantly gets left out in these TV forums and synposiums that really effect Black women which is Fibroid Tumors. These tumors are causing fertility issues and hysterectomies in our communities.

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T.G. — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:53:12 GMT

Way to go Brian, knowledge is power. Thanks for shining some light. I believe that there is one issue that needs to be addressed that, as far as I can tell, isn't going to be covered in your series. African American women in the work place. I think that you will find that there are indeed disparities in income, racial divides amongst their peers, extreme negative perceptions of African American woman in leadership roles, and heavy racial criticism. However, I say all of that to also say thank you again for doing this and my hope is that as I tune in, I will see a well rounded study and information that fuels thought and change not ridicule and embarrassement.

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mydchomegirl, Washington, DC — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:00:57 GMT

It was reported earlier today that Washington, D.C. has the highest HIV/AIDS cases in the nation and 9 out of 10 cases are African American women. This issue should definitely be addressed! Are the numbers so alarming because of so many "Down Low" Brothers in the area? Sisters need to be enlightened and informed so that the numbers will decrease instead of increase!

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Linda L. Jackson, Mississippi — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:13:36 GMT

These are interesting topics and even more interesting times in our African American communities. I want to clarify a couple of comments that I have read. When African Americans moved to the cities en masse during the migration from South to North most of the jobs available to them were domestic/servant/low wage, etc. So while it is technically true that we were leaving our children at home often by themselves, the reason is because we were busy tending the children and running the households of our employers (Miss Ann led a life of leisure)- in other words, we were trying to make a living. There were very few white collar jobs or substantial blue collar jobs for African Americans - those were reserved for whites, an added perk of good employment was a high enough wage which afforded an opportunity for the white man to act as head of the household, husband, and provider for his family. Since these good jobs with good wages were not available to us, in order to provide for our families, we took what was available. Secondly, in the North many of our families became part of the welfare system, if you recall, one of the strictly enforced criteria for receiving aid was the absence of the male. So it was not so much that Black women felt 'liberated' but rather that we were placed in a situation where we would not get a low income apartment or food stamps or other aid if the Black male was present. This encouraged the breakup of Black families and fostered a pattern of irresponsibility on the part of SOME Black males, who must have been really hurting because they were being pushed aside by a society that constantly demeaned them and told them that they were worthless. When the Black male emotionally shut-down it was probably more of a coping mechanism; unfortunately, it became a pattern that was observed and emulated by other successive generations of young Black males. Sadly today some of the more negative behaviors have become part of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Also, African Americans during that time had more of a 'village' mentality we were more cohesive (it was us against the rest of the world), meaning the mother/father may not have been home, but we watched out for each other. Kids may have been home alone but an elderly neighbor or someone else could chastise a child that did not belong to him/her without fear of retribution from the parent (or as in these days from the child himself/herself). We must remember that the programs that were created during the 'funding of the great society' were never created with Blacks in mind - they were created to care for the welfare and well being of whites. As African American began to take advantage of the public housing programs, etc, then the rules were changed accordingly. Finally, I certainly do not agree that Black women cannot "sustain a relationship with a man" I know many sisters who have gone above and beyond in order to make a relationship work. I'm talking stuff like putting up with abusive, cheating, irresponsible, selfish, lazy and emotionally nonresponsive men in order to just have a man, giving him every benefit of the doubt, alienating family and friends just for a brother who turns out to be a huge disappointment because he cannot, or will not, commit to the relationship. As an aside, let me say here that the psychology of relationships is that we are choosing the same person over and over again, which means that most of us never get beyond a specific 'type' That said, it does not seem fitting that we should continue to point fingers at each other because in truth, we are all victims of a society that has thrown everything it has at the African American in order to eliminate and annihilate us. Why?, because we are a constant reminder of a part of this country's history that most whites benefitted from but now want to forget; a part of history that was rooted in the systematic servitude of an entire race of people, a societal system that bestowed defacto second class citizenship upon that races descendants.

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Cynthia Gaston — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:25:43 GMT

What is the solution? Each segment of these shows omits the obvious. African-American health, education, welfare, psyche, strengths and weakness arise from our reaction to and engagement with the Dominant culture of America.

Our health is directly tied to the stress of living devalued lives, the devaluation of African-American males from Kindergarten to drop-out impacts African-American undergraduate gender, racist and economic agendas of the Fortune 500 impacts every space and place and thinking of African-American consciousness.

Please do not leave this out of the discussions or the entire "expert testimony" becomes suspect.

Who are these experts chosen to speak for millions?

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CPT Scott — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:31:51 GMT

I applaud your efforts Brian to bring the triumphs of Black African Women to the forefront, I just hope you have not grouped them together with biased statistics that will wrongfully portray us differently than who we have become, and what we have accomplished. How did you defined the measurements or percentages and if that is the case...how do Black African Women understand that they are out-numbered if the ratio is 7 to 1...quite interesting? If such statistics are correct who will Black Women date? Are white women including in these statistics...what about them? For the record, Black Women have survived and continue to survive, the Plantations, the Master's ideology, the racial slurs, biased employment, the robbing of their men, the incarceration of their sons and men, the ruins of broken families and many of them have arise and refused to become a part of a racial society that subtle dictated to them that they are viewed as less (not good enough). Many of them have superseded to become educators, lawyers, doctors, nurses, entrepreneurs, leading authors, advent mothers, and loyal sisters that have defined them as royalty in a world that has not allowed them to prove and say "We have Arrive". bring it on but only with truth and solutions...WE ARE HERE!

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A. Waring, Atlanta — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:46:21 GMT

I hope it's not; however, this entire series appears to be very negative. We all know the health stats, the hip hop lyrics, the issues with interracial dating etc. What is the objective in this report; to further damage the image of AA women? How about a report on the qualities of successful AA families; the strategies that excellent schools use to educate AA youth like St. Augustine, Xavier Prep, and St. Mary’s in New Orleans; the overwhelming success of HBCUs in graduating leaders; the success of the 50 Million Pound Challenge in encouraging AAs to get fit. We are tired of talking ABOUT the problems. This report does not appear to offer any specific solutions to addressing the issues; I doubt if we will see any web addresses and phone numbers where AA women can get information of SOLVING these issues will we? As an AA woman I have no time to watch negative programming.

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Miriam, Chicago, Illinois — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:56:27 GMT

Hi Everyone,

I have to diagree with Sean J. from Chicago. It is this type of disbelief that lead us away from looking in the mirror and seeing our faults and the various issues within our own community and life.

Derrick Evans, I will have to disagree with you too. It is totally impossible for a black woman to have a stable relationship or marriage with a black man if he's inacapable of accepting his mistakes, correcting the ones he can, and the ones he can't he should be able to at least make a mends. Black women all too often carry the burden of the whole family without being able to shift some of it on the "head of the household" (that being the man). Therefore, it is highly impossible to sustain anything resembling a relationship with a black man if the two of you are unequally yoked.

I look forward to wathching the week long special. I'm quite sure many interesting ideas will surface.

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MR, Minneapolis, MN — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:11:09 GMT

Let's reserve judgment until AFTER we've seen the series, okay? otherwise we're merely speculating - and some of the speculative comments on this site reveal more about the COMMENTATOR than they do about the series content.

My wife and I (Minneapolis couple; her and Prince are the only MN AA natives I know!) eagerly await this series and hope it does as much to suggest solutions as it does to highlight problems.

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Claudette Dunnock Ellis — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:12:23 GMT

My Name is Claudette Dunnock Ellis, I am a Black Women, who would like to know where do we grow from here! Please reveiw Womens Wellness Foundation, www.womenswellnessfdn.org website and help to create change to help us now and our future generation!

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Thando, NYC,NY — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:18:49 GMT

Telisa Johnson.

Stop it!

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Me — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:33:57 GMT

There are Black people who get married, buy homes and raise children in two-parent families. Who have yet to experience unemployment. Who seek and obtain proper medical care and excercise and eat right. Most black people wouldn't know a jail if it was in their living rooms, have great credit and retirement investments. These are the black people I am and know. But white media only reports on what it considers to be "news" Good news is boring. Bad news about blacks makes whites look and feel safer to be white, more disciplined and responsible than every "other" race. No matter what disease comes out, the white media reports that blacks have it worst than everybody else, even if the illness was invented this morning. Think about that. We're only 12 percent of the popoulation and half of that is children. It is mathmatically impossible for us to have more AIDS than everybody else. But if you're basing your research on statistics, you have no choice but to use the statistics that are made public, such as free-clinics, planned parenthoods, and free hospitals. Black people are not sicker than everyone else, we're just less likely to be insured and therefore our statistics are public knowledge. If you're a 13 yr old pregnant white girl whose mother pays cash to a private doctor for an abortion, your info will never be public knowledge, therefore your abortion is invisible. The poor pregnant black girl who used planned parenthood is reported on next year in the Planned Parenthood Annual Report. Which is where "researchers" get their info. Ditto for every disease as well. White people need to report on the filth going on in their communities and stop highlighting ours as if they have no problems, which they do. Why don't they do a report on the white teenage girls who have oral sex with 10 guys at a party, but still considere themselves virgins? Or the teens who get into physical fights with their parents? Or teens who binge drink and drug and steal their parents credit cards?

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Rick Layne, Las Vegas, Nevada — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:45:47 GMT

Ironically we are preparing to host the first ever 1000 Black Women Black March Expo, "Our Sojourn To Truth", events in Los Angeles, Oakland, Sacramento, Houston, New Orleans, Birmingham, Atlanta, Columbia, S.C., Raleigh, N.C., and Washington, D.C., on February 2, 2008 to show the unity, community, family and address the issues of Black women with solutions. Black History Month will come alive with these history making events so that opportunity will be shared between those who can provide and those in search.Everyone go to blackhistorymonthinfo.com for details to be involved.

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R. Stewart, Chicago, Illinois — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:45:48 GMT

Two points. While slavery had a distinct and brutal impact on the black family, the "peculiar institution" failed to destroy these families. Registrations of slave marriages during Reconstruction showed slave "marriages" of 20, 30 and more years, even among couples living apart, owned by different "masters." No, it is the evil of current racism that is undermining the black family, in ways more subtle and devious than the blatant atrocities of slavery.

Second, every pathology that starts in the black community makes its way to the white community within one generation. Several comments have mentioned that white women outnumber white men in colleges. While out-of-wedlock births are decreasing among black women, they are increasing among white women. Other examples have been mentioned by others in this blog. No group can afford to be complacent, but it still stings when the victims are deemed to be the cause.

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Thando, NYC, NY. — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:09:25 GMT

Brooke,

"Black people need to stop blaming white people for all of our problems". Enough already.
Not all black people blame white people for their problems and nor do we all look for handouts. Yes, do some of us seek handouts but,so do people of other races (every race has lazy people).
Stop believing EVERYTHING you see on TV or read in the paper. That's just irresponsible of you.
Live it!
There have been many positive and hopeful things said on this thread. Focus on that.

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Monica, Boston, MA — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:11:52 GMT

I wholeheartedly agree with Brooke from NY who wrote, " I feel as though most of the comments that have been posted are incredibly silly and defensive.....No one should be defensive regarding the topics discussed in this series. Everyone should be saddened and brainstorming solutions. Knowledge is essential and I guarantee this series will teach everyone something new. Watch it and become a part of the solution."

One should also remember that the "media" includes "us". We can now in 2007 safely assume that AA's had some hand in putting togthter this series and it can't be written off as negative white man propaganda. Most importantly, the issues raised-not are real and reflect truth about the nature of AA life these days and it is not all a pretty picture.

I do have a bone to pick, however----One of the issues that I have been troubled by for many years is the way male priviledge/sexism has morphed in the AA community into a serious liability for AA women children and AA men themselves. It seems to me that the problem is less one of how AA men are emasculated than one of how so many of them enthusiastically embrace actual and symbolic dominance over and marginalization of AA women and children. For many, it seems to be their as a vehicle of "liberation" from all the stresses and strains they suffer from. I find it odd, with all the poverty and obstacles we face that the first line of defense, "United we stand, divided we fall" is all but ignored. Why is it so COOL to not marry? To imprenate and abandon? To not commit to struggling in the trenches with someone who loves you? To radically objectify and denigrate balck women and embrace cultural touchstones that do the same? Why are the "homies" the most important "audience" for legions of black men? Better yet, why aren't the "homies" advocating for committment, raising strong families and yes....birth control?

I wish I knew where to point and place a finger to stop the leak in this dam. Can we still legitimately blame slavery and its aftermath for the fact that we express and deliberately nurture so much contempt for each other and our children?

Heaven help us.

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Rafley Brown, Tacoma Park, MD — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:14:48 GMT

2006 Census figures indicate that Black women overwhelmingly provide parental input to Black families and therefore Black males. Where do Black women stand on this trend?

Black single-parent families headed by a male: 415,000 or 11.7 %

Black single-parent families headed by a female: 3,143,000 or 88.3 %

http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/hh-fam/cps2006.html

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Deborah, Southfield, MI — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:17:49 GMT

I'm looking forward to watching this series. I'm hoping for a balanced approach to what life will be like for African-American women in the next ten to twenty years.

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V, Indianapolis, IN — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:21:10 GMT

We stand united against racism, classism, and sexism
We stand to fight for equality and justice in America built on inequalities and injustice
We stand in welfare lines because employment lines are filled with illegal immigrants
We stand in congress and the senate still fighting to bring justice for the black men killed during the civil rights era
We stand at the church alter praying for our families and communities that are consistently being destroyed by corrupt people in positions of authority
We stand at the bus stop with our children to protect them from pedophiles & drug dealers
We stand in line to vote for politicians that are suppose to speak for all the people
We stand at the halls of court rooms fighting for our sons civil rights to be upheld instead of getting ridiculous sentences for crimes that are downplayed for others.
We stand united for civil rights, human rights, dignity, and respect…
That’s where we stand.

We need to be the ones saying what we’re concerned about not being told what to be concerned about. In fact here are a few more…

In reviewing the September 2007 found on government website http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2007/10/september-employment-report.html
The overall unemployment rate was 4.7% but taking a deep dive across the racial demographics African Americans rate was 8.1% that’s what we need to be concerned about…why this disparity exists. The concern with racial profiling causing African American males to be convicted of felony’s before the college age of 18-21 is what we’re concerned about. Once a person has a felony conviction both traditional jobs and traditional education are difficult to obtain. Let’s address that disparity in America.
What is the ration for black women to black men in trade schools or non-Historical Black Colleges and Universities? It seems that the ratio is just the opposite.
Black America has healthy relationships, strong stable marriages and families we just continue to allow the negative aspects to be discussed. White men have for years since the Vietnam War been marrying Asian women. What implications is this having on the Asian Families and Structure? Again, let’s compare apples to apples in comparing statistics. How many black men and black women are available in the pool compared to how many white men and white women in their pool and see about the marriage numbers. The statistic as it stands in irrelevant to Black America. Only the perception continues to fuel this discussion. Let’s make sure Black America is telling the story from their perspective; especially considering that we are a global society.
We haven’t even gone through the primary election process yet. Let’s make sure that Black America is knowledgeable on where all the candidates stand and vote accordingly. Both Candidates are Democratic. Most of Black America in terms of faith and family identify with the Republican Party. I’m not advocating either party just making sure that you know where the candidates stand on what’s important to you and your family.

Tavis Smiley and other leaders outlined 10 issues facing Black America. See http://www.covenantwithblackamerica.com/

Okay, And….What about the Black Men married to Black Women? What is that statistic according to the U.S. Census Bureau Report? Let’s tell the whole story please.
Interracial dating and ultimately marriage is no new concept. It may be the blessing in disguise that will end the Black/White issues in America. Once everyone is bi-racial now what?
White men have for years since the Vietnam War been marrying Asian women. What implications is this having on the Asian Families and Structure?
I believe Oprah and BET covered this issue at nauseum. Clearly, the negative stereotyping of women is affecting Black Women. The number of rapes and sexual advances is out of control towards all women. The videos just magnify the fantasy.
While I don’t care for the videos or lack of content in the music this is a democratic society with free speech/expression. Those artists are apparently telling their story from their perspective and reality. What I don’t like is the mimicking that goes on with the impressionable youngsters in other parts of the country where this is not their experience or reality. What would be nice is the little duffel bag boys, self proclaimed hustlers, and “music moguls” to tell their current stories and express their business savvy sense not at the expense of women. Forbes is certainly taking note.

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V, Indianapolis, IN — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:21:58 GMT

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Marcella, New York — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:25:03 GMT

As a mother of two highly educated young women, aged 30 and 33, I am very concerned about their marital futures. It seems to be more and more difficult for decent, young, ambitious women to find decent young ambitious men, black or white. In particular, black men have to get their acts together before they are extinct. There is so much opportunity for anyone who wants to work hard and make a really good life for themselves. However, it appears that alot of black men (not all, of course) just want to continue to rely on black women to make a life for the family. It's a darn shame that these men don't take ownership of the situations they find themselves in, ie: jobless and uninspired. Get it together brothers before it's too late, we women need strong men to walk alongside of us and into a bright future.

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Joyce, New York, NY — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:32 GMT

Why this topic? Why Now?

"During November sweeps, the networks roll out their best stuff, rarely show a rerun, and often resort to extreme measures to rope in viewers."

ratings!!!

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Linda Gray — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:20:44 GMT

I hope that these segments on African American Women are produced, directed and presented by African American Women.

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Barbara Green, Tulsa, OK — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:29:21 GMT

"And that is leading to a disparity in the number of African-American women who go on to own their own businesses"

I understand the lopsided ratio (7 to 1) in the higher education area of African-American women to men respectively, but I don't understand how you're correlating this to the disparity for African-American women owning their own business. Please address.

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Karen, Dallas, Texas — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:33:44 GMT

I think it is wonderful that you want to discuss these things. My question is will the younger generation that really needs to see this watch it? It's very hard to teach a young girl that she should respect herself enough to not be called out of her name when most of the so called music the teens and young adults listen too demeans women. There is nothing worse than being called a "B_____" and then seeing the girl laugh and answer the boy. We must find a way to address the way teens see themselves and others. The music makes it alright to call anyone anything they want.

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Seth L. New Haven, CT — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:01:13 GMT

When speaking on the problems of African American women, we need not look further than their systematic addiction to retail, a propensity to devalue the importance of credit, and a devotion to government funds which leads to the imprisonment of African American men. Trust in the gov't and the products endorsed by it, are the causes for the diseases black women are afflicted with. These factors (amongst others) leave our children not only fatherless, but parentless, and makes them suceptible to the ills of the world. The destruction of African American families has been in effect for hundreds of years. As they will continue to emasculate African American men, it is time for women to take a stand as heads of African American households. Women have been the heads of our families, but this role is taking on more meaning because a generation of our young men have been incarcerated and reduced to become modern day slaves. Ladies, it is time to step your game up!

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Sudy2, Milwaukee, WI — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:04:07 GMT

Unfortunately, I believe that some of the comments have missed the message in this series on African-American women. I believe that you will have to watch and listen to see how this series turns out. Whether it be informative or otherwise. The look is not to belittle the African-American males but to put the focus on what the African-American woman goes through. I believe that if you continue to worry about slavery, you are not moving forward. Put that mentality behind you, learn from it and move on. That time was meant to be lessons for those who are willing to learn from them and not make the same mistakes. Do not harp on the past. The only way that we can be kept behind is if we want to be.

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Need Info — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:26:55 GMT

What time does it come on?

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m, carson — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:31:22 GMT

its funny that white america sees us as a bunch of black folks huddled in one corner of the country with a heaping full of problems. black women do not be fooled into thinking that we suffer more and die more than caucasian women. every statistics across the planet will always make white people look better than blacks. its just that simple. there are more white women who get breast cancer and they do die from it at an alarming rates, but we will never know. we will never hear about that. don't buy into the lie that black women aren't getting married. there are many black women who are getting married. black women in my family are married to BLACK MEN. we read about it, see it on tv on different reality shows. why is white america so concerned with 12% of the population is beyond me. nothing they will discuss is of concern to me. i'm a black women who is married, in good health, living my life to the fullist with my family everyday.

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Kenya Hatcher, Oakland, California — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:20:26 GMT

I thank you NBC New for addressing these important issues in the AA communities. I can’t help but become emotional when thinking about what is in stored for the women with children in my community. I see women in children homeless on the streets because they can’t afford the surrounding housing market. I see women who have become grandmothers too young and have to raise their grandchildren, I see women raising children without men. I see women who are single parents who cannot attend a junior college because their minimum income is too much for them to get grants in an overpriced economy. I see women who need medical care but would probably die too young because they can’t afford it, I see AA women re-defining what the American family is. I see progressive POVERTY in my community every day. In the mean time the budgets that could help these families are being cut yearly.

This is what I see, What do you see?

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kevin harrod dallas, tx — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:44:56 GMT

Reparations are in order. If not for slavery then for the moves in the fifties to destroy all black business districts when planning superhighways in the continental United States.

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Dianne, Greer, SC — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:02:40 GMT

I am a african american small business owner and I have to say that I'm so proud of the sister on nightly news today. 11/26/07. She is an example of what I'm doing and I can tell you my 13 year old daughter is going to be following in my foot steps also.

She already started her own business at the age of 13 to earn money for college.

You go sister.

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Alberta Hirt — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:03:36 GMT

Do white women matter?

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lamont sullivan — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:07:17 GMT

White society sees black women as less of a threat.Thats why they are advancing.I am a black male.I am living testimony of the fact that even when a black man "re-invents" himself to be productive and prosperous,he is still criminaliized,and victimized in the workforced.After a bitter divorce,I went back to school and got an associates degree in dental laboratory(Denture production).After landing a job and relocating from Chicago to Mississippi,I held the job for a year before my white male supervisor falsley accused me of insubordination,for which I was fired.Even after an investigation proved the supervisor lied,I was not given my job back.But the supervisor kept his.I know there thousands of other black males who have experienced this.

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Wmtyrances — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:07:42 GMT

I can't count the times i have seen this. White media saying black men are stupid and black women are better.

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J. Sims, Benton Harbor, MI — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:09:45 GMT

As a 40-year-old black male, relying on the charity of my mother to support me, my anger can only boil when I hear about how black women prospering economically while we must accept what's thrown at us. I possess a BA, with a double-major, Cum Laude distinction along with having been a former National Deans List and Who's Who recognized scholar. I don't drink or smoke, and have never even considered drug use. I have no children, no criminal record, and possess a spotless Commercial Drivers License (which I acquired out of economic necessity). Yet, I find that people are only willing to offer me work in the most menial of tasks. I did everything right, and worked my butt off. So where's MY reward for all MY hard work? I have even gone so far as to post my own resume online in order that maybe someone would see me as having a brain, and being a possible asset: http://i-need-a-damn-job.tripod.com/

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Pamela Walker, Atlanta — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:11:33 GMT

It's amazing to me how people can be negative about something that they've not seen since it's not on until the week of November 26th.

Reality is reality and it should serve as a wake-up call for everyone. Instead of complaining about what's being shown do something about we as African Americans see going on in our communities every day. You don't have to save everyone, start with one, start with yourself if need be and then pay it forward. Do something and stop complaining.

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Shantee, Washington DC — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:18:34 GMT

Hopefully this won't be another thing that makes me question why "our dirty laundry" is being aired to everyone. I do however feel that our opinion and us as a whole are just undervalued in this day and age. Alot of the stereotypes about our attitudes, bodies, and what we place important value to is due in a big part to the images that men impose on women as worthy of being rewarded. An ideal package that we all are supposed to fit into...

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Ezra Shav, Pittsburgh Pa — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:18:44 GMT

Well said Danny. This is another series highlighting the "negative" things in regards to black men. At least so far from what I saw tonight. We all know black women are doing better but many are alone, unmarried, are venturing into lesbianism. Another piece will air on interracial dating. In another decade the black family will continue to disappear and our culture will continue to erode away. Black women will leave us alone and take the 62% of 850 million with them. Meanwhile black boys will continue to be left to fuel the sub economy and good black men (that are not cool enough) will be alone or will date interracial. But then again I think we have heard it enough. I don't need no man. Independent woman etc. If we don't need each other then there is no US. There is no I in team but many sisters don't care and they may not know. How many times do sisters say "I don't need a man" daily? I thought a family was a team effort. O well my father needed my mother and she needed him. In 2007 many..not all..sisters feel they only need that degree, job, $$$, and the pastor and they are content with that. In the words of Charlie Murphy, "We've got to do better!

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Tomi Johnson, Marietta, GA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:22:16 GMT

Your report on black women (11/27/07)was mediocre and misleading. Again white owned media is trying to put black women in competition with black men instead of looking at the real problem facing Afro Americans- racism/white supremacy. You continue to support black genocide/breakup of the black family. Times have not changed since slavery - black women still are not queens of families because the family has been destroyed by prisons and educational institutions which teach them it’s ok to make it on your own. The view is that black women can survive without black men. That's the message you're trying to make, but we know that is not the truth. As far as black women's health, pocketbooks or degrees are concerned, they still live in a world where they are minimized and undervalued when compared to white women. Their power is minuscule - even Oprah is way down the list of FORBES billionaires...next time you do a report, do more research. Also, have more women reporting on communications, economics, medicine, law, and transportation instead of how much they fair when compared to black men.

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Alonza Watkins, Jacksonville, Florida — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:24:30 GMT

Monday's topic I love. As an young African American man I do see the difference in Education, Society and Religion. I looked around my church a couple of week ago and seen that 80% of the church was females. Then I think back when I graduated ( Edward Waters College 2006) I believe it was 11 to 1 females to male walking across the stage with me. So I believe that the story is more likely on point. My observation with the correlation problem with males, rap music, and drop out rate is on target also. I am a heavy listener of hip hop and rap music and all they talk about is "sexing female, selling drugs, and how they made it in the music industry and never graduated or got kicked out". Shoot if I have time I may just do a research on this. LOL, but I observe that females are in a place to succeed rather than males. It may be the upbringing of each, or the government hand in raising a family, but this thing can be turn around if we get control of our children at a younger age.

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Nicene42, Dallas, TX — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:29:22 GMT

Growing up I saw how hard my mother struggled to give me the better things in life including an excellent education. My mother got me into some of the best schools in the nation and pushed me to graduate college in four years. I appreciate the great social equalizing power of education and as a teacher I spend my day trying to impart this knowledge onto the younger generation. As a young black woman, I am well aware of my history but I don’t let it define me as a person. I define who I am and what I will and will not do with my life.

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Lynette, Chicago — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:32:41 GMT

What would happen if this blog limited posts solely to solutions required to be implemented.

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Tina, Dallas, Tx. — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:33:51 GMT

I was so disappointed with the amount of time we received for this VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. NBC should be ashamed, first the topic of discussion was only 2 minutes long, not counting the seconds, and even more so; it was the last two minutes of the show. How shattered I felt for us as Black Women, we aren't the focus of many topics and when we are, we still receive the shorthand of the stick. Please NBC or better yet, Anderson Cooper provide us with more in-depth, realistic, proven studies, resolutions, and more than an ounce of empathic to our issue. Yes, I understand this is the first day of a five day series, and maybe I don't know this is how NBC works, but my spirit and feelings were truly hurt by these actions. Instead, let’s really put a flood light on this issue that many of my African American Women are forced to deal with today. Thanks for the series and the opportunity to speak out, maybe another issue will be heard.

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Not impressed New York, NY — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:35:52 GMT

As the time progressed and I realized NBC was going to dedicate less than the last 5 minutes of broadcast time on the segment, I knew they weren't going to say anything too important. I believe the segment is meant for those in the population who have no idea what is going on in the black community. Most black women weren't surprised nor did they learn anything from watching "Part 1: Education." I think the report was very superficial. I will probably watch tomorrow to see what they say about relationships. But I hope they don't spend the entire week blaming the hip hop community as they briefly did in this first segment.

I am a 27 year-old black woman. Like many, of my friends grew up watching tv, eating junk food and listening to hip hop music. I am also a lawyer. I think the important issue, which no one other than Bill Cosby wants to mention is parenting, or the lack their of in the black community. Single parent or two-parent homes, if no one teaches children right from wrong then they won't know. As far as black men, I believe there is a divide in they way they are raised. I have a cousin who grew up in a two parent home, he is 28 and a baggage handler at an airport. (By the way, he scored almost perfect on his SATs, but dropped out of a city college). His sister grew up in the same household and is 25 years old, she is pursuing a doctorate degree in Math. I personally think he was not disciplined enough. But that is not the norm, nor is it an explanation for all cases of unsuccessful black men. But it supports my point. I think there are several reasons which contribute to the disparity between black women and what we really need to do is make sure our sons and grandsons aren't part of the statistics.

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J. Hall — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:41:51 GMT

We have a generation of single African American women who are raising children that are raising themselves. Hip Hop music has played a role in the lives of these young minds. The young boys are definitely growing up in an age where they are becoming very disrespectful to women and their own peers. They have no value to life and think all disputes are handled with a gun. Their brains have soaked in all of this negativity which has numbed them from having any humanity. I think this is a real issue and concern that needs to be addressed. I think that the series will raise a lot of awareness to some very valuable and important issues related to African American female especially with health and breast cancer and the disparity of treatment and survival.

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Dee, Milwaukee, WI — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:43:30 GMT

I watched Mondays segment and heard the same old propaganda, "The problems with African Americans" As an African American woman, I agree with the voices that pointed out how easy it is for Whites to promote such gargbage. We are just fine as a people. Why don't you address why so many "White Women" are all up in our families, marrying and screwing around with our fathers, sons and brothers???? Let's hear a little PR on that! What's wrong with the WHITE FAMILY?

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Millicent Brown, Greensboro, NC — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:45:32 GMT

NO three minute "special" can be expected to deal meaningfully with the depth and seriousness of the present day situation of the black community, of which women are but a part. READ REAL ANALYSES AND GET FULLER POLITICAL PERSPECTIVES FROM THE THINKERS IN OUR MIDST. bell hooks, Angela Davis, even the newest Cosby-Poussaint attempt are better sources than NBC. Moynihan marked us as defective ("a culture of poverty") and that has just gathered moss since the sixties. Let's just be sure to let the network know that they have the capacity for real inquiry, we're waiting for the will. Wouldn't hold my breath, however. For any one who wants to hear and read more of what black women are doing to adapt and understaand, check the women's studies projects at Spelman and other serious academic programs. Maybe if we are disappointed enough with this series, we will realize how flawed the media is in interpreting most contemporary issues and we'll give them less power over our minds.

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JPWills, Huntsville, AL — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:49:15 GMT

I'm glad to see this series. But I, too, am leery, though, that the purpose is for ratings and other agendas. Brian and Rahema, thanks for broaching the subject during prime time. I divorced at age 40 and found a balance and some solace in establishing my own business.

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rah — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:58:10 GMT

to Marcella, New York

The last time I checked it takes a black man and women to create a black child. So please explain to me how black men are going to go extinct and black women flourish? This should be good!

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NF-L, Atlanta, GA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:58:53 GMT

I am an African American woman who is an executive at one of the most important airports in the world. I can bear witness that life is excrutiatingly tough for African American women and the fact that my boss is also African American (male) doesn't make a bit of difference. Woe be unto me if I get more attention than he. My work AND my demeanor is more closely scrutinized than my male counterparts & I am routinely chastised for speaking my mind - that is if he's paying attention. The stress has taken its toll on my health, my appearance and my state of mind. The good news is that I AM AN AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN and as such, I am genetically programed to take whatever ANYONE dishes and give it back in spades!

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Jane Doe — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:09:10 GMT

I am going to be brutally honest. First I extend a word of gratitude to NBC Nightly News. Next I must say that I feel as a whole the AA male has failed it's community.

A large portion of my collegues were raised in single Black female homes. If you look at TV specials about many Black celebrities, most of their fathers walked out. It's really embarassing to hear and see this same issue of the missing Black father.

Another issue is how many of our men appear to subscribe to the "cool" factor. Some as old as 40 still thinking it's "cool" to be a "playa" so to speak. This mentality is the root of many of them not wanting to work. Not wanting to spend time obtaining a college degree. And rampant disrespect of Black females. Because all of this is "cool". We as parents must preach and instil within our children while they are yet impressionable that "cool" is a part of life but one must mature and grow as a man to survive life and valuably contribute to society.

Other issues are the disgusting rap and hip hop lyrics and lifestyle that has trampled R&B as the music that defines trends for the black community. I love both rap and hip hop but not the negative lyrics and promotion of degration against Black women and the Black community. Will Smith, LL Cool J, Diddy has made Grammy Award winning rap music but didn't have to utter one word that compromised women, themselves, the black community or any kid who listened to their music. Nelly, 50 cent, Ludacris, LiL John take note. It's called real c-r-e-a-t-i-v-i-t-y and it's also called t-a-l-e-n-t.

Even worse many of my educated female friends don't have any decent AA men to marry. Of course most people want those financially compatible with them so do these women. But for those who have decided to marry men who made significantly less, it's caused major problems as some of them do not want to work or want to control money they do not earn. Many black females that I know that have married are marrying the guy who's 40 but STILL living at home with his birth mother. Or one who ran around on his previous wife so much she had to pack up their 3 kids and leave, so now he's running around on his new wife. This brings another issue.

The constant infidelity. It's so common for AA men to cheat and blatantly disrespect AA women that it's very sad. Of course not all, but it appears a strong, significant number of AA men think its "cool" to cheat and "hit" it. Meanwhile, other men of other races are "hitting" the books at college, "hitting" the wedding isle getting married, "hitting" the streets on their way to work. Yes, white men cheat also. But no in the hoards of numbers that AA men appear to. The parks, restaurants, churches are proof of that. They are their in large numbers with their families.

I love the AA male.

But sometimes the brutal truth is needed to wake up some people.

And I do not mind telling that truth.

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Jay. Oakland, Ca — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:18:20 GMT

Brooke from NY summed up my sentiments: ‘I feel as though most of the comments that have been posted are incredibly silly and defensive’…I’ll add irrationally emotional.

THE biggest problem for Black Americans (really can we get rid of the ridiculous African part, I mean really, a continent? And for those revolutionaries still shooting pointless blanks; been to the continent and loved every minute of it so pump your brakes on the 1960’s Marxist (ironically white) rhetoric)

Anyway, THE most compelling comment that outlines the first and biggest hurdle for Black Americans was written by N Meredith San Francisco (fellow Bay Area’n of course) who wrote:

‘I think that we all have the capacity to define our own individual realities and I really try to stay clear from socially conditioned group think.’

WOW, that said it all. THAT’S what true freedom is about, unless you claim to want freedom but are scared to death of it. If you’re trapped in the reasoning of group think, foolishly believing the group will keep you secure & safe, locked inside a narrow repression/oppression framework unable to contemplate life outside the political self this concept will be difficult to embrace and your only hope is some cathartic event.

THE reality is that all Black Americans will never ALL rise at the same time. For those deep in the Judeo-Christian ethos that runs rampant and quite frankly many times unchecked; the deliver us from bondage thing will not play out in the real world. Moses and no other figure is coming around the corner to save the day and wash away all ills. At the end of the day no one is responsible for you accept you AND the only thing any Black American can do is take care of them & theirs and live their lives, creating as N Meredith said their own realities. Anything else is just nonsensical superstitious fantasy.

A few comments on the silly and defensive (and irrationally emotional)..sorry couldn’t resist.

For those proselytizing; please don’t, please keep thy God to thy self and learn the difference btwn faith and fact. And respect others beliefs, no one is walking around trying to convince you not to believe; so please have the same respect.

On inter-racial dating/marriage:
I laugh at the fact that this is even an issue. Anyone worried about this reeks of insecurity.
The numbers show an increase (almost double) in Black Women dating/marrying White men in the last 5yrs and if you go back to the early 90’s the category with the highest rate of increase is Black Women & White Men; good for those people if they find happiness.

I do however find it amusing that Black women have spewed and continue to spew so much venom and ugliness about inter-racial dating/marriage are on the other hand doing it at a higher rate than anyone else. The phrase ‘full of shit’ comes to mind. When I experience in public again, the Jim Crow behavior from these delusional narcissistic women who feel that they’re at the center of every brothers life and can invade a private relationship just because they disapprove; I’ll have more reason to shake my head in amazement.

Someone wrote:
‘Feelings of abandonment by our brothers who actively chose white women over us.’

No one can tell you how to feel but maybe your feelings are getting in your way.
Isn’t it possible that you weren’t contemplated? That it isn’t about you or race? Each of those cases is independent of the other, each brother that you see quite possibly came to his decision alone by himself and didn’t get together will all the other brothers and make a group decision to chose one group over the group you claim? You make it sound like some class action.

OR

ALL THE WHILE, Black men such as yourself are feeling REAL FREE to Date/Marry EVERYTHING BUT an African American woman (especially if they have more than $5).. IF you can't FIND a QUALIFIED AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN IN ATL - it is because YOU DON'T WANT ONE.

And the problem is and for who? The comment ‘feeling real free’ WTF? How else should one feel other than free to chose who they want…should they have to come to you first?

Qualified? LOL, the first I’ve heard that 'qualified'…is this a job application? But I’ll humor you with this question: Isn’t the definition of ‘qualified’ relative or do you decide for everyone?

This type of reasoning always has me wondering how people process their thoughts and makes me realize why some don’t have the capacity for a healthy relationship. The inability to accept co-existing realities: Yes there are plenty of ‘qualified’ African American women in Atl AND that particular brother happened to meet a women (not-Black) HE loves and THEY decided to get married, date, hangout, etc. NOTHING in that scenario is about you or any other ‘qualified’ women ATL or anywhere else. If you can’t accept that reality, something is wrong with you.

Lastly:
It is just black women more so, have accepted that complaining about your situation will do nothing to solve any problem.

NOT COMPLAINING? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING..SERIOUSLY, YOU’RE KIDDING RIGHT?

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Saisi, Kansas City Missouri — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:21:35 GMT

I have not read any of the comments, but am compelled to respond to the agenda I received. Specifcially regarding "Mara Schiavocamps, . . . . will address two hot topics in the African-American community: interracial dating and the impact of hip hop on black women." NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!! The hot topic is the rate in which AA women [non-drug using, heterosexual]are contracting HIV/AIDS. 'Interracial dating' is something we have dealt with since slavery times with the Massa. Hip-hop is the same ethnic notions [Jezebel, Mammy, pickanny, etc.]we have been dealing with for decades both from Hollywood and AA filmmakers. Your agenda is old - why don't you ask somebody [everyday AA women]what is important to them [everyday AA women]?

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Bernie Blackmon, St. Louis, MO — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:22:59 GMT

I just saw the first segment. The nature of the beast is that news segments are notoriously superficial, however I appreciate the effort to highlight African-American women. We have unique situations from other women and are primarily perceived (like African-American men)as negative stereotypes but the gender issues add a special dimension to our images. I don't anticipate much new information or solutions but hope it will open up the topic for more detailed review. Hopefully the series will be available in a format that can be viewed in its entirety at a later time.

African-American women and where they stand

Tonza, L.I. New York — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:26:08 GMT

Educated AA women and men know their history... Educated AA men and women know what the current problems are. And like one writer suggested, rather than reiterate the problems/issues that face the AA culture, The forum needs to move beyond the problems/issues to discussing the SOLUTION(s)and what must be done NOW to help our young sons and daughters.

African-American women and where they stand

A. Grisham, Norfolk, Va — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:38:13 GMT

I am 46 year old Black male whose profession is education. I've been around the Navy for almost twenty-eight years. I did 20 years active duty and began working for a college teaching the Navy in 2000.
I've read the many post here, some positive, some negative. Some of our problems are brought on by us, some are not. We have deviated from the principles of self reliance and self responsibility to a point that we are regressing instead of progressing. Our African American men account for seventy-five percent of the prison population. The percent of marriage in the Black community has declined significantly, and the number of single parent homes has risen sharply. As a result in the Black Community we don't have family structure, but the dangling discords of family structure. This is the core and the catalyst of our problems and will eventually contribute to the demise of the black family.
We can possess the intelligence to attend the most prestigious colleges, earn the Bachelors & Masters degree and Doctorate, yet we can not possess common sense, find a common ground for a common purpose - raising our children as mothers and fathers.
African American women often complain that there few African American men suitable for marriage. How you expect your son to grow up to be a man, to be a suitable husband for the woman he chooses to be his wife you never provided him with an example of a man to emulate? TD Jakes once said, "You can't emulate a good example if you've never been given one to emulate. Today many AA women are raising their daughters and loving their sons. Until we come to the realization that our male children are only going to learn how to be a man from a man, then we're going to continue to see the decline of black men in college, at the professional level in the work place as well as other prominent places.
The principles that I spoke about earlier, self reliance and self responsibility, are two attributes that allowed African Americans to rise above the shallow ideologies of Jim Crow and segregation. They allowed us to rise from the fatigues of despair to the buoyancy of hope. However somewhere we lost sight of those values, and this is where we began to regress; this is where we began to divide.
For Danny, you commented that the Washington Post did a series on the African American male. That was a very inspiring and invigorating series. I contributed a comment on the series. I also have the book; and I plan to give my son a copy for his 13th birthday next April.
However, the series brought negative responses. Some AA women saw the series as a slap in the face to Black Women. The media capitalizes so much on the negative things about Black men that the positive things become a blur or absent from out memory all together.
There are issues in the Black Community that need to be addressed, there are solutions to the problems, so keep it real, employ some of that knowledge that is utilized in obtaining that college degree and resolve our own problems and move the existence of the Black family back from the abyss of extinction.
FYI: I’m a college student as well as a teacher.

African-American women and where they stand

Doug Johnson, Albuquerque, NM — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:39:15 GMT

It is hard to believe that your background visual for this valuable feature misspells "education" as "eductation," but it does. (I have no need to have this appear among the comments; I just hope you fix it before tomorrow's broadcast. Are the proofreaders on strike, too?)

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Chicago, IL — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:44:03 GMT

As there will be criticsm of the series, it is refreshing to see NBC giving focus to black women and their lives which typically is not even a second thought. It would be great to watch series such as these at a later time (i.e., primetime) when more viewers are home (from work) and could tune in, since not everyone has a VCR to tape it or a computer to view it online as I did.

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Ms P, New York, N.Y. — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:51:15 GMT

I watched the five minute report, and it was nowhere near what I thought it should have been. All this hype for nothing. As AA's we need to tend to our own business. Yes we have many issues,but no one is going to take care of you like "you". If we want something done right, we will have to do it ourselves. Racism is a challenge for us and will always be, as long as we live in America. However, we must rise above it and continue to strengthen our family unit. This is our one hope of survival.

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DIANA ELLISON — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:06:17 GMT

I JUST WATCHED THE FIRST INSTALLMENT OF THIS SERIES, MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE THERE ALWAYS SHOWS ABOUT THE SEPARTENESS OF BLACK MEN AND WOMEN AND NOT ABOUT THE TOGETHERNESS OF BLACK COUPLES AND FAMILIES AND WHEN THERE IS A SUCH A SHOW PRESENTED, THE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS, ALWAYS POOR

African-American women and where they stand

Keisha,York PA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:47:29 GMT

I am very happy about this series. African-American women have always been oppressed beyond recognition, but still we rise to the occassion and take care of business. I do however, have a concern about the excuses that are being made for the black male not stepping up to the plate. They have the same opportunities as African-American women so, please do not give these men anymore excuses they have enough already.

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Coalhouse Walker, Takoma Park, MD — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:15:54 GMT

Black men who have the opportunity to raise their sons must start doing so. Divorce happens too often, but when it happens, divorce courts shouldn't award primary custody of children to mothers by default. Fathers should get a fair shot without having to make lawyers rich. More fathers should be raising their sons. Mothers should stop doting on their sons and start demanding the same academic excellence from their sons that they demand from their daughters. Young ladies, you have a lot of power. Stop praising thugs! Young people need more structure and tough love.

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Bette ,Godfrey, Ill — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:17:43 GMT

I disagree with Kevin, why are we white people still being held responsible for what the black people of Africa did to their own people so long ago. The purpose of this series is to focus on the black female. More needs to be done to help encourage the black female to focus on education and getting ahead in the world, and not settling for a relationship with a non educated, nonemployed male who feels inferior to the woman. I say it is fantastic that black females are getting ahead, and the young females should be taught to study hard, get a good education, and use their God given talents to better themselves. The AA male needs to take a good look at themselves, get back in school, and be an example to their peers.

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Chicago — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:23:37 GMT

I am proud to be an African American Woman at this present time even through the trials and tribulations that stood to make me bitter to loose hope on our African American Males.It sure has allowed me to open my eyes a little wider to a different view. Being married twice,divorced and raising sons I now have the oppertunity of how the male species operate and have their being.My father not being in the home help raise a few issues about how men ticked. Never the less I am open at this time to explore other nationalities for my future to be loved . It does not matter what others think or believe I too deserve to be happy. After working the corporate ladder and hearing these other women in the telecast about the education level I too understand where that has landed us in choices.I now stand proudly and state that I look forward to a brighter future of dating out of my race if I must.

African-American women and where they stand

Saisi, Kansas City, MO — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:28:01 GMT

The announcement of this series is user unfriendly - it does not provide time of the broadcast - can't find it anywhere on the numerous webs I tried. Additionally, after finding a web site that allows for 'video', trying to access is unfriendly - one must download another software [Java] to view.

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Girlzrule, Queens New York — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:30:23 GMT

As an African American woman who is a college student I'm glad we're finally being recognized for our struggle to make it.

My own mother went back to college at the age of 43 and is now a teacher. All of my sisters are in college thanks to her example but my two older brothers are not. It's not that my mom didn't teach us that education is the key for Black American's, because that's what we've heard all of our lives. But like so many of their friends, it's the same old excuse, " College isn't for me.".

It isn't that they aren't smart, because they are both brilliant, but they just choose not to go to college. Granted they've circled around trade schools but it's still not the same as college. Hopefully someday the stats will change.

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Geo Harrison — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:38:44 GMT

We are currently undergoing the re-integration of the feminine into our psychic structures and, the re-emergence of the Black Goddess at the divine level of our existence. So it is not surprising to me that women across all races in the western world are eclipsing males in medical and law school enrollments, as well as balancing the future psychic structure of the U.S. with a growing population bi-racial offspring. This is the evidence of moving into the Aquarian Age as we leave the Piscean Era which was ushered in two thousand years ago by Christ, Budda, etc. with the rise of the Patriarchy and male dominance.

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Geo Harrison, NYC — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:39:13 GMT

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J Washington — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:39:59 GMT

Bryan Williams, shame on you and NBC for airing a five minute segment on Arican American women! I was all excited about looking at this an even e-maled my girls to tune in. What a dissapointment. You would rather spend the time focusing on negative issues. Again shame on you and NBC. I could have had a V-8

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Burnadette, Florida — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:42:31 GMT

Interesting issues.... it will take a lot more time to properly develop the topics that will be addressed in this five part series. Thanks to Ms. Ellis for covering the educational issues in a factual but yet respectful way. I am hopeful that Black women will take note of our “potential” political and economic power. While life is not perfect for anyone or any particular race, being a Black woman has its special challenges. I am hopeful that this coverage will offer the opportunity for Black women to have honest debate and dialouge(even if it is amongst ourselves) about our health, relationships and finances -- but most of all, our untapped POWER.

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A. G., Norfolk, Va — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:43:47 GMT

African-American women and where they stand

Kim Houston Texas — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:05:06 GMT

The information presented in this series is very generic to say the least. In addition, black men and women already know about the gap and why it is widening. This broadcast is to inform others about African American women. Thanks for the effort!!!

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Chicago, IL — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:24:11 GMT

I missed the documentary due to time zone and broadcasting confusion. I spent hours flipping through channels. Please MSNBC post times and channels on your website so that everyone can tune in. Anyway, I agree with the commenters above about taking a more proactive approach. Talking about how deficient African Americans are as a race without explaining the opportunities that are available to change the current situation is very depressing--especially to a younger generation of Black women. I feel the sting of the plight of our race especially as a teacher in a majority black high school. The statistics are real...our schools and our people are behind. After stating the facts it is very necessary to analyze the cause of these issues and put in affect some action plans to make the neccessary changes. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that racism, poverty, and lack of education are the roots of our issues as a black community.Prison, disease, violence etc comes along with. Yes, the resources to a quality education are limited in poverty stricken communities and yes there is still racism that exist today but as a people we have to find a solution to fight these issues. Lets adopt some ideas from these major cooperations who are getting rich off of the poor like Rocaware, Babyfat, McDonalds etc. They have found a way to market to our people and make billions doing it. Lets do the same thing as educators, business women, Doctors, Lawyers, and especially Mothers. I've taught at several low income schools yet I've see more name brand cloths on students who's families I know are struggling financially than on people I know make a decent living finacially. Its clear that there are some priorities that are backwards in our socieity and its helping others to get rick. This has to be acknowledged by our Black mothers. We have to be held accountable to the things that are now acceptable in our society that we allow to ruin us as a poeple and leave our Black women struggling. Let's take ownership of our problems and generate revenue by supporting education, health, values, morals, and spirituallity.
I love my sistas...and my poeple but we have to get this right...or continue to be degraded.

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JJ, San Francisco, CA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:33:40 GMT

After reading that the series would approach the issue of inter-racial dating/marriage (apparently because it’s only an issue among Black Americans; the every other race has embraced modernity, evolved and gone on about their business and it isn’t an issue) I was interested in reading the comments.

Reading about the increasing numbers of AA women dating White men and reading the comments you’d think the numbers were about Black men dating White women. Even when the numbers are about AA women, they’re still posting disparaging comments about Black men & White women. I’m thinking, wait! I thought I read it the other way around. I said ok I see, it’s a set up; amazing, all this BS when the numbers are showing something totally different. I had to chime in with my own experience. Mainly because what I expect to here is mostly careful placating; I suspect it’ll be framed in a predictable way. I expect more of what any real Black woman would find offensive; someone tip toeing around the issue with soft-ball questions, comments, extremely careful not to offend, not to push the wrong button, because they’re afraid she can’t handle it and might go ‘off’. Many fool themselves saying its respect, or they got over, but I think it’s condescending and a sad stereotype to embrace and flaunt.

I’ve had experience over the last few years with this inter-racial dating issue. Unfortunately those with small minds always need a venue to play out their issues; usually the public square. It came as a surprise. I dated for several years and finally married my wife that happens to be white. Since we’ve been together I found out how much of an issue it is, mainly with AA women (and the small men that suck up to them, afraid to say what they really feel). Before I met my wife, I’d dated women of all colors from all over the world and had never experienced any significant differences due to race; so I never categorize women outside of available; not available.

After experiencing first hand through actual experience and treatment I want someone in this series to bring up how AA women have reacted to inter-racial dating through out the years. But you probably won’t hear that and if you do it’ll be excused, quickly rationalized away. But you can’t evade the question: After having reacted so vehemently and been so nasty about the issue of inter-racial dating how does one rationalize opposite the current numbers? Is it still not ok for Black men to date/marry White women but ok for AA women to? Or now that you have decided to date/marry White is it now ok for Black men?

I’ve heard some ridiculous racist comments, been on the end of some ugly treatment from AA women; I feel as strongly and offended about it as if some southern red-neck was the offender. No difference same spirit. What’s most satisfying is usually White women aren’t even tripp’en and if it wasn’t for some foolish display the AA women would just be fighting herself. How can you call yourself strong when you let someone in your head and they aren’t even tripp’en on you? They just don’t contemplate you the way you contemplate them. Think about the nasty and racist stuff said about White women, especially when you hear platitudes about women’s sisterhood or hear Rep. Sheila Jackson on Real-time with Bill Maher talk about Black women ‘feeling’ Hillary Clinton to the tune of 66% over Obama: guess they’re ok until they still ‘your’ men. But I digress:

Since I’ve never been approached and asked; whatever any AA woman’s feelings or reactions, whatever flippant remark is made about me, my wife or why, how we came together, what it means, etc. it’s ALL in their own heads, their own stuff. We’d be fine without those women and will be, but they just can’t ignore us.

No other women that I’ve dated from anywhere in the world, including Black women from foreign countries has EVER ask me about my racial dating experience; a question that comes up from AA women almost immediately, if not before the first date certainly by the end of the night. No other women from anywhere in the world has cared or been intimidated by the fact that I date openly. The only women to ever JUDGE me on that fact and then react were AA women. No other women, upon finding out that I date openly has bounced because of it; only AA women.

When I was being profiled, put in a box, defined because of my race; it was from AA women. The ‘I know how you Black men are’ comment ONLY came from AA women. The only women I ever heard speak about doing ‘down-low’ patrol on their men were AA women. In fact AA women ran with that story big time; turns out it was way over-blown but since it was another stain and rumor about Black men it was believable; to a AA woman. (Didn’t catch the reprieve on Oprah).

Given all of this I never swore off AA women as a group. Never said I wouldn’t date/marry AA women. I also didn’t go looking, searching or trying to find an AA woman, there were women from all over the world all around me, not concerned about the race of who I dated; so I did what I did and the AA women usually bounced or played themselves out. All n all it wasn’t necessary for AA women to be in the mix, my life didn’t miss a beat and I went on to enjoy my single, dating and now married life. Except for the occasional assault on my individual freedom by those who want to make sure I know my place.

With the numbers increasing among AA women and White men relationships (which isn’t bad news by the way) and probably continuing to rise, the conundrum is:

Will the ‘strong‘ Black man fall for this agreement:

You (as a strong Black man) don’t go out-side your race; if you do you are less than a man and not really Black and since I’m at the center of it all (you know that whole queen fantasy) it’s a rejection of me, disrespectful because I’m a Black women. But I on the other hand can go out and experience, do what I gotta do to find companionship, love, because of course I’m a Black woman.

a sucker agreement.

The fact that this is an issue is ludicrous.

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Karen, Los Angeles, CA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:01:23 GMT

I, for one, am glad that the state of African-American women in America is being examined from a national perspective. I am also pleased to see that an African-American woman is being given the professional opportunity to lead the interviews.

I hope that all of the comments made here will be considered when the time comes again for this issue to be re-visited. I would especially like to see a news story that focused more on the solutions to the root problems. For instance, what organizations and/or individuals are succeeding in raising the achievement levels of African-American males (and females)?

It saddens me that some Black men take the problems of Black women as an indictment against them. Our problems as a people are complex, the result of a tremendously complex history. Unfortunately, there is no way to really adequately address these complexities in short daily news segments. Still, I appreciate the effort being made here. Maybe, MSNBC will consider doing longer specials in the future that offer a more detailed, nuanced perspective.

Finally, surely White (and other) women out there are having some problems too. The country as a whole does have a 50% divorce rate! I hope the brothers reading these comments will keep this in mind.

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Carrie Broadus — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:27:24 GMT

HIV infection is the leading cause of death for African American women aged 25–34 years.
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The National Women and AIDS Collective (NWAC), a coalition of HIV-infected and affected women activists born out of the Ms. Foundation for Women’s Women and AIDS Fund applaud NBC News and Brian Williams for taking a look at issues facing African-American women across our nation throughout the week of November 26, 2007.

According to a press release announcing the programming, the series will cover a wide-range of issues impacting "Black America's family and social structure."

It is true that Black women are disproportionally suffering and dying from breast cancer and diabetes. However HIV infection is the leading cause of death for African American women aged 25–34 years. These African American women are dying in the prime of their lives. What can have a more devastating impact on Black America’s family and social structure than the death of so many young women—many of them mothers?

Because of HIV/AIDS-related stigma, media often portray African American women living with HIV as being outside of and separate from the Black community. In fact, these women are productive members of society and play an integral role in keeping the social fabric of their communities and families intact.

In closing if prime time news producers want to encourage awareness about health disparities experienced by African-American women, and responsibly cover, as NBC claims, issues that impact Black America’s family and social structure, then the impact of HIV/AIDS on African American women, their families, and their communities, must be included.

The National Women and AIDS Collective (NWAC) Leadership Team

· Sylvia Britt-Raven, Spelman College (Atlanta, GA)

· Carrie Broadus, Women Alive Coalition (Los Angeles, CA)

· Precious Jackson, Center for Health Justice (Los Angeles, CA)

· Vanessa Johnson, National Association of People with AIDS (Silver Spring, MD)

· Naina Khanna, WORLD (Oakland, CA)

· Sylvia Lopez, Women Rising Project (Austin, TX)

· Maura Riordan, WORLD (Oakland, CA)

· Demetra Tennison, Women Rising Project (Austin, TX)

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angryblackmale — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:31:35 GMT

I love it - you do a story pointing out the disparity of black men not achieving at the same rate as black women and the fix is for black women to date white guys?!?! I wouldn't have minded if the series was on black women who dated latino guys, or black women who dated asian guys, but no, trumpet the stereotype that black men have failed black women so it's white guys to the rescue. Give me a freakin' break! One of the subjects is exactly the kind of women we black men face enough of - black women who already DON'T date black men and then use the "not enough black men" excuse as a convenient front. As a black male,I don't tolerate similar lame excuses from black men who exclusively date outside their race either - it's playing into false generalizations and stereotypes. Why not ask the harder questions - all things supposedly equal, why AREN'T black men succeeding at the rate of black women? Why are the societal odds against success for black men orders of magnitude worse than for black women? For corporate America, hiring black women is preferable- it's two "minorities" for the price of one. These types of series are hurtful because they emphasize what is WRONG with black people, not what is right. Yes, we are already aware we have many problems in our community, thank you for noticing. What needs to be emphasized is the efforts to finding solutions. How do we improve/are we improving the health statistics for black women? How are we improving the success rate for black males?
The media loves these sick stories. We have a successful, intelligent African-American male who has a successful, intelligent African-American female wife running for president - why can't we get a series on them? Instead we get far more media coverage on how the white female candidate gets more support from the black community. Confuse, divide and conquer.
And just FYI, I'm a 33 year old Ivy League educated, responsible, single black male. And there are more of us out there than the media hype would want you to believe. Peace!

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angryblackmale — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:34:46 GMT

I love it - you do a story pointing out the disparity of black men not achieving at the same rate as black women and the fix is for black women to date white guys?!?! I wouldn't have minded if the series was on black women who dated latino guys, or black women who dated asian guys, but no, trumpet the stereotype that black men have failed black women so it's white guys to the rescue. Give me a freakin' break! One of the subjects is exactly the kind of women we black men face enough of - black women who already DON'T date black men and then use the "not enough black men" excuse as a convenient front. As a black male,I don't tolerate similar lame excuses from black men who exclusively date outside their race either - it's playing into false generalizations and stereotypes. Why not ask the harder questions - all things supposedly equal, why AREN'T black men succeeding at the rate of black women? Why are the societal odds against success for black men orders of magnitude worse than for black women? For corporate America, hiring black women is preferable- it's two "minorities" for the price of one. These types of series are hurtful because they emphasize what is WRONG with black people, not what is right. Yes, we are already aware we have many problems in our community, thank you for noticing. What needs to be emphasized is the efforts to finding solutions. How do we improve/are we improving the health statistics for black women? How are we improving the success rate for black males?
The media loves these sick stories. We have a successful, intelligent African-American male who has a successful, intelligent African-American female wife running for president - why can't we get a series on them? Instead we get, as evidenced by part of this series, far more media coverage on how the white female candidate gets more support from the black community. Confuse, divide and conquer.
And just FYI, I'm a 33 year old Ivy League educated, responsible, single black male. And there are more of us out there than the media hype would want you to believe. Peace!

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Sam Cacas, San Francisco, CA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:46:38 GMT

As an Asian American man who has pursued my attraction for Black women most of my life - currently I am married to a Black woman - I appreciated your segment on Black women who date interracially. However, the focus on Black women who date / marry white men is quite dated. The real news is that Black women are becoming more attracted to and dating Asian men as evidenced by Yahoo! discussion groups like PowerCouples_AMBW and various YouTube videos showing Black women - Asian men couples. Yes, the intermarriage rates between Asian men and Black women are currently low but keep in mind that Asians in this country are less than 4% of the population mostly because of anti-Asian immigration policies of this country. I sure hope that you interview Black women who are dating or married to Asian men when you do this type of story in the future. These days Black women dating interracially does not just mean white men.

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Thomas R. Whalen,M.D. — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:13:36 GMT

Ms. Ellis' feature story must not have an editor--throughout the piece, the terms "blacks" and "African-Americans" were used interchangeably...it is either one or the other. Personally, I do not use the term "African-American" any more than I would use "Irish-American" to describe myself because my grandfather immigrated from here in the early 1900's. In fact, I would argue my proximity to Ireland is closer than most of my black friends' relationship to Africa. Why should blacks have an exclusive right to use such descriptive terms over the other ethnic American groups? In any case, please be consistent in writing this story: if NBC news deems it politically correct to use "African-American" as the descriptive racial group name, stick with it; do not intermingle the term "black" with it...journalism 101. Thomas R. Whalen, M.D., St.Louis, Missouri

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Conscious Daughter — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:42:51 GMT

Why is it that anytime black women ever get a little recognition for what they've done or what the face, the black community, in particular black men, want to steal it away from them. While I can sympathize with everything that black men endure, the bottom line is that not only do black women not have the luxury of using racism, classicism and sexism as excuses for not taking care of their children and community. If black men truly take pride in being black and value their communities, they will put aside their bravado and egos and start working for the collective good instead of their individual ambitions.

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Joyce/North Hollywood, CA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:54:32 GMT

This much needed discussion is disturbing because it has been pre-recorded, edited and participants have been carefully selected. Reality TV at it's worse. I would rather a live, town hall meeting on the topic of African American women with a diverse panel of African American women and men. How can we discuss interracial marriage or dating between AA women and white men, and not mention the statistics of AA men who date or marry white women. Monday night's show leaves the impression that AA men are not good enough therefore, AA women are seeking white men. The AA women that I know who have dated or married white men did it because they met the guy who seemed right for them, not because of race. They weren't abandoning AA men, or giving up on the possibilities of marrying them. I realize that there are some sisters out there who date white men exclusively, and I would argue that that is due to their own self-hatred and hopeless feelings about their people. But even those sisters are embraced by AA women in the community and healing and bonding always prevail.

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Dtruth Los Angeles, Ca — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:04:18 GMT

Black males have always be left out of the american business experience. Promoting an AA female to the executive ranks is always the choice in corporate america. Just look at the org charts of most fortune 500 companies and you'll see more VP and Directors that are AA females than AA males. The old saying goes, a black woman can take care of the diversity quota and blus they are easy to manage and less threatning than an AA male.

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Angie — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:20:44 GMT

What time does this come on?

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Felicia, Chicago IL — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:07:42 GMT

I have to agree with Brooke. I'm really surprised by a lot of the comments here and how defensive people are. The first episode in the series has not even aired and many of you assume that it's going to be negative. I did not see the airing, but I did watch the videos on the internet, and from what I saw, it seems that they are simply presenting our chanlleges, our successes, our obstacles, where we are going, where we have come from. Every clip I watched was of Black men and women speaking about our plight. Yes there are some inherent disadvantage we as a people face due to slavery & racism, but there are a lot more opportunities for us to take advantage of, if we CHOOSE to. The fact is that many Black men have not chosen to take advantage, or are not encouraged to take advantage because they have been allowed by Black women to use the excuse that the system is against them and has made it hard for them, well the system was against the Black women too. And she found a way to dig in and push her way through. As well Black men in our history faced far far greater obstacles than today's Black man yet they perservered. The shift of power in the Black coummunity from men to women and the currtent condition of the Black race is nobody's fault but the Black race. Life is about choices, and the choices for Blacks are more abundant than they ever have been in the history of this nation, so if you choose to continue to be a victim then the state of your being is nobodys fault but your own, and if you choose to teach your young male that he is a victim then he too will become one. Slavery happened, and it was devastating to our race, but we do not have to remain victims of it. Black women are recgonizing that and are choosing not to be. And for those of you who seem to offended by the word disparity.........all disparity means is "difference" if you found something offensive in that, then thats because you CHOSE to.

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G.Thomas, West Bloomfield, MI — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:12:45 GMT

I hope that on the next series that someone will discuss the continual racial divide and the lack of economic parity for African American women in business compared to their white counterparts. This is a sophisticated issues that hits us very hard.

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janelle — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:19:28 GMT

Yes! I was blown away by the video which interviewed the Stanford grad. Education is the key, and the sooner EVERYONE realizes this, the better!

Also, I was very saddened reading the posts blaming racism. My ethnicity is african, native indian and causcasion - and I don't blame others for my inability to complete college. Though I realize the opportunities are more abundant for some rather than others - remember that life just ain't fair! It's up to us to get that education, power and even the playing field.

Again, kudos to all who find success in perseverance, direction and hard work.

African-American women and where they stand

Sheri Parks — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:27:32 GMT

I am a university researcher on the mythologies and lives of black women. The social reality is that African American women are already carrying a much heavier load than they should. Their health and well being are at stake. At the same time, they have achieved amazing things under awful circumstances. One national non-violent leader has said that black women are the most under-appreciated yet potentially important force this country has. The stories and social roles as powerful yet unappreciated forces have been under-examined. Our fear of emasculating black men has led us to be silent about ourselves. Both black and white cultures have core stories about dark women who save everyone around them but themselves and black women are taught to do just that. As a result black women are dying because they are trying to quietly be all things to all people. If this series does nothing else but to spark an intelligent national discussion about the actual lives of black women, it will be worth it.

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Ronald C. Lee — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:49:15 GMT

Hi Bryan,
This is for BLACK WOMEN MARRYING AND DATING WHITE MEN.
I am a well educated African American Male.
I have two master degrees and an internet business that grown $500,000.00 last year.
I am not one of the 7 out of 10 that is in uneducated, broke, unemployed, in jail,
On drugs, homeless, deceased or dead.
I have been trying to find Miss Black Right.
However, Miss Black Right is looking for Mr. White.
This is like rap music a trend I must go with the flow.
Because of your eye opening report.

I am posting my on all interracial sites now.
I have changed my focus to Miss BRB that is Blonds, Redheads, and Brunettes.
Thanks for the attitude adjustment.

African-American women and where they stand

A. Braggs, Cincinnati, OH — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:01:59 GMT

The use of the term disparity within the context of black American success strikes me as inappropriate. What is unfair about the differences in achievement between black men and women are the many social and institutional forces that must repeatedly be fought in order to reach those goals and also leave many behind. The shift from discussing how blacks are behind in one area or another or how they are at a disproportionate risk for one ailment or another to this praise via gender divide isn’t new or subtle. Newsweek made the same move in 2003 and so have others. Like that piece this series seems to be more fixated on within group differences when there is something positive going on in order to extract a negative point. Why isn’t there more discussion about how the achievements of black women compare to other women or men in other racial groups? Why isn’t there more focus on how black female leadership and success is a positive indicator for what is possible for other social minority groups both male and female?

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ronald c. lee Austin, Texas — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:07:19 GMT

Hi Bryan,
This is for BLACK WOMEN MARRYING AND DATING WHITE MEN.
I am a well educated African American Male.
I have two master degrees and an internet business that grown $500,000.00 last year.
I am not one of the 7 out of 10 that is in uneducated, broke, unemployed, in jail,
On drugs, homeless, deceased or dead.
I have been trying to find Miss Black Right.
However, Miss Black Right is looking for Mr. White.
This is like rap music and drug trend, I must go with the flow.
Because of your eye opening report.

I am posting my on all interracial sites now.
I have changed my focus to Miss BRB that is Blonds, Redheads, and Brunettes.
Thanks for the attitude adjustment.

African-American women and where they stand

Anthony, Mebane, NC — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:13:38 GMT

So far this series is a joke (not the issues), I watched the segment and as usual they opened with the negative (a single black woman parent). Why was this educated woman a single parent? Were was the father? How about focus on the Black parents that are married, such as myself. I am man of God (since 1978), educated (college degree), a husband of one wife (black female), a father of one child (daughter), an uncle (4 nephews & one niece),and a good neighbor and 36 yrs. young. I was raised by a single parent but refused to continue the cycle. Both my sister & I are married to good spouses. My sister is getting her education (college), and her husband works. They are raising 5 kids. What are the statistics on us? When I was in college, I know guys that were driven to get an education and at the same time looking for goods mates. Where was the focus on that? I know young black males that go off to college and make something of themselves. You make choices to succeed or fail. You are only as good as your ability to go out "kill something and drag home to eat". If I focus on the negative then I am only going to be negative. Try listing the numbers are the ones who are and contining to strive to succeed. Success isn't a montary value, but true success is to raise a godly next generation in the fear of the Lord. That is only legacy that will last

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Veronica Blakely, Tampa, FL — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:13:46 GMT

Thanks to NBC for at least having a discussion on African American (AA) women. Our issues seem to take the back burner on many programs and we as AA women have a lot to say. Of course every subject cannot be covered in detail in such short sound bites, which means there needs to be a special (at least one hour) on each area of concern. (Just a thought.)

I jumped ahead an reviewed the video on AA women dating outside of their race. The sound bite only spoke of AA women deciding to date outside their race due to higher educational pursuits and careers. However, the subject of AA women being rejected by AA men who have higher educational pursuits and careers was not addressed. These AA males have chosen by in large to omit the AA woman from the dating selection pool; therefore, some AA women feel that they have no choice but to date outside their race.

I say some because dating outside my race is not a choice for me (at this time). My choice is an AA male who has respect for me and himself whether he is white collar or blue collar. Since that image was not protrayed on the video, it makes it look as if AA women are "gold diggers" which is so far from the truth.

While this issue is frustrating for many AA women, I decided to let my frustration be unleashed in a tounge-in-cheek book of poetry titled: "I WANT WHAT MOST WHITE WOMEN GOT: A BLACK MAN." My book is not racist nor does it bash males. The book takes a very honest and humorous look at the relationships (or the lack thereof) in the AA community. You can read excerpts on my website (www.Vs-Voice.com) and on my blog (www.myspace.com/vsvoice).

Thank You

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Adrienne, Austin, TX — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:15:13 GMT

I certainly hope when they discuss the health issues they take into account class and socioeconomic status. They may find the "disparity" to be less prevalent than they thought. Of course they probably won't because class issues are far less "sexy" than race issues.

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Stephannie Lewis, Minneapolis, MN — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:20:13 GMT

I am extremely disappointed in NBC's attempt to "examine" issues affecting African American women.

First, NBC didn't air the "special series" until the last portion of the program. Secondly, they reduced the problem of educational disparities between Black men and women down to a three-minute soundbite. The report did not discuss the policy implications associated with this statistic; how the Black family structure will be impacted; and unfairly characterized hip hop culture as the culprit in African American men's inability to pursue higher education. Finally, the first story did not examine the critical role institutional racism plays in access to higher education and its outcomes.

The coverage was imbalanced and inaccurate at best.

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Angela Khrstin Brown, Las Vegas, Nevada — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:34:47 GMT

Many inferences discussed in the session is important to express topics about women's roles as mothers, entrapaneurs, volenteers, church activist, and role models; also to discuss issues on womens health. It is important to make the public aware where women stand in society. It is important to let the youth know women are not sex role models; but are positive leaders.

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Brittney, Cincinnati, Ohio — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:21:45 GMT

Oh praise you Danny Everett. I really liked your comment and your view point. I do feel that today their is so much of looking at what is wrong than finding a solution. African American men and Women struggle in this country because of the great amount of class, racial, social, and economical distinctions that exists within our borders. It has been more than a 140 years since the Emancipation of slavery and 60 years since the being of the civil rights movement and still struggle is present. I think this series is trying to make a serious effort in addressing the problems that face us African American Women, but it only scratch's the surface of what truely lies beneath. I also feel that a look at the hip-hop movement is crucial mainely because it is what many other ethnic groups define african american culture as. However, as Everett stated, if European American's stop buying some of the negative , degrading music that is out there, then perhaps(in my view) African American men wont feel the need to put this type of music out. That perhaps this won't be a means of making a profit. hIP hOP is a beautiful thing and is a form of true expression, but even it can be abused.
So as an African American woman, I say more power to NBC nightly news for trying to take a step in a direction of trying to understand us. We are truely a complicated bunch, but we are strong beautiful and we love our African American Brothers. We see the disparity and are truely destined for greatness. My college education will take me far and I plan to fight back the stereo types, be adventurous in my endeavors and lead my life in a direction to change the situation that all to often wants to hold me down.
Find a solution, look at the positive, and learn to overcome the obstacles that we may face. It is our problem before it is anyone else's problem. It shouldn't take a program to single us out in order to see the big picture. Let's hope the next program is on American women instead.

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D_nicegirl, Chicago, IL — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:33:31 GMT

To the person who says we should not care how many Black women are married, I say you are delusional. marriage is not just the crescendo to some girlhood fairy tale. Women, and subsequently families, of all races, achieve financial security through marriage. Women are often able to elevate their social status through marriage. And what about children? I am a single mother myself, so I definitely am not going to disparage them. But, I was raised in a 2 parent home and I definitely see the advantages of that type of upbringing.

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FMK, Atlanta — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:37:30 GMT

I ask that question in response to the current NBC Nightly News series African American Women: Where They Stand. This series conjures up images of repressed, desperate black women in search of men who satisfy their spoon-fed images of what a egood manf is supposed to be, not necessarily what a good man actually is. gI love my husbandfs blue eyesh???? Come on. The comments made by the women in the GirlTalk section of the website was so shallow I thought I was going to puke! These women may date outside their race not because they cannot find a good black man, but because they want the superficial things that a man outside their ethnic background can bring them: looks, money and lawd-have-mercy, good hair. Letfs examine the realities, shall we? There is not a lack of good black men available to successful or educated black women, the problem lies in what these women feel they are entitled to because of their success or education. Yes, momma taught them to take care of themselves and not depend on a man for anything. Well these women ecarreening toward 40 are tired of taking care of themselves; they want someone to do the work now. Ifm not mad at them, but donft blame this on the black man. I have a BA and MS and my husband never finished college. I did not marry him to take my financial or superficial needs to the next level, I married him because he is a good black man. What is a good black man? A man who cares for you and yours emotionally, physically and financially the best way he knows how. That does not equate to a high-paying corporate job, but who the man is within. There are plenty of black men out here who work (maybe not as a doctor, lawyer or Indian chief) but who pay their bills, listens and understands and are willing to share and make sacrifices. Many times it it the black woman who is so particular and has such a laundry list of requirements going into the relationship, she fails to see who she is really dealing with; he canft be himself because he is too busy trying to live up to what she expects him to be! Ladies, as Tupac says, etake it easy!f Examine yourself and figure out why you want a man, not just who you want as your man. Then open your mind to the possibility that he may not be what society (or your mother) thinks he should be, but rather, hefs good for you; youfre good for him and neither one of you eneeds fixingf in order to please the other. Once you do that, youfll find that there are black men out here that are not throwaways, but worthy of your love and respect.

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FMK, Atlanta — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:38:32 GMT

I ask that question in response to the current NBC Nightly News series African American Women: Where They Stand. This series conjures up images of repressed, desperate black women in search of men who satisfy their spoon-fed images of what a ‘good man’ is supposed to be, not necessarily what a good man actually is. “I love my husband’s blue eyes”???? Come on. The comments made by the women in the GirlTalk section of the website was so shallow I thought I was going to puke! These women may date outside their race not because they cannot find a good black man, but because they want the superficial things that a man outside their ethnic background can bring them: looks, money and lawd-have-mercy, good hair. Let’s examine the realities, shall we? There is not a lack of good black men available to successful or educated black women, the problem lies in what these women feel they are entitled to because of their success or education. Yes, momma taught them to take care of themselves and not depend on a man for anything. Well these women ‘carreening toward 40′ are tired of taking care of themselves; they want someone to do the work now. I’m not mad at them, but don’t blame this on the black man. I have a BA and MS and my husband never finished college. I did not marry him to take my financial or superficial needs to the next level, I married him because he is a good black man. What is a good black man? A man who cares for you and yours emotionally, physically and financially the best way he knows how. That does not equate to a high-paying corporate job, but who the man is within. There are plenty of black men out here who work (maybe not as a doctor, lawyer or Indian chief) but who pay their bills, listens and understands and are willing to share and make sacrifices. Many times it it the black woman who is so particular and has such a laundry list of requirements going into the relationship, she fails to see who she is really dealing with; he can’t be himself because he is too busy trying to live up to what she expects him to be! Ladies, as Tupac says, ‘take it easy!’ Examine yourself and figure out why you want a man, not just who you want as your man. Then open your mind to the possibility that he may not be what society (or your mother) thinks he should be, but rather, he’s good for you; you’re good for him and neither one of you ‘needs fixing’ in order to please the other. Once you do that, you’ll find that there are black men out here that are not throwaways, but worthy of your love and respect.

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Kevin Archer — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:40:25 GMT

I'm very curious about how black women feel about white girls in relationship with black men? I mean, the real, "Chris Rock - type of truth."

As a father of a white girl involved with a black man I have a lot of mixed emotions about it. But as a larger majority of black women are in non relationships, it has to spill over into a distrust, or outright hatred for the girls that take their men,,,,or am I too 1970's about this subject??

Essentially, I'm curious if there is a wound spring in the AA women community that will eventually be un coiled in a backlash against these girls, especially as our economy and our country keeps droping in statue.

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Amanda Gilbert, Arizona — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:42:08 GMT

"How are African American women raising their sons"?
I have been watching this for years, as AA males are surrounded by the negative hip hop images that they come to believe that is how they are to live and breath, having many Mothers bringing every Tom, Dick, and Harry in to their homes, no respect for authority, no value in education etc. Oh and of course blame their problems on whites. Many want to make the "fast buck" with a little work as possible. It's the truth but everyone writes it off as being raciest. They grow up in a family where the AA Mother does everything work, clean and then you expect them to grow up and contribute?
As for me, I'm a single white woman who is raising a black young man (known him since he was a baby)who thank God his Mother wanted him to live with me. He will not only complete high school(the first in his family his sister is a prostitute, and two older brothers don't work and live off their girlfriends) and has already been accepted to a "first generation" college program next summer. I place him as my priority in life, don't drag every man I meet into my home, have high expectations from him, provide a clean and comfortable home, (work two jobs to be able live in one of the best school districts in the state)
and surround him with educated African American families. Once again...How are they raising these AA males?

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FMK, Atlanta — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:47:19 GMT

Please print this version:

This series conjures up images of repressed, desperate black women in search of men who satisfy their spoon-fed images of what a ‘good man’ is supposed to be, not necessarily what a good man actually is. “I love my husband’s blue eyes”???? Come on. The comments made by the women in the GirlTalk section of the website was so shallow I thought I was going to puke! These women may date outside their race not because they cannot find a good black man, but because they want the superficial things that a man outside their ethnic background can bring them: looks, money and lawd-have-mercy, good hair. Let’s examine the realities, shall we? There is not a lack of good black men available to successful or educated black women, the problem lies in what these women feel they are entitled to because of their success or education. Yes, momma taught them to take care of themselves and not depend on a man for anything. Well these women ‘carreening toward 40′ are tired of taking care of themselves; they want someone to do the work now. I’m not mad at them, but don’t blame this on the black man. I have a BA and MS and my husband never finished college. I did not marry him to take my financial or superficial needs to the next level, I married him because he is a good black man. What is a good black man? A man who cares for you and yours emotionally, physically and financially the best way he knows how. That does not equate to a high-paying corporate job, but who the man is within. There are plenty of black men out here who work (maybe not as a doctor, lawyer or Indian chief) but who pay their bills, listen and understand, and are willing to share and make sacrifices. Many times it it the black woman who is so particular and has such a laundry list of requirements going into the relationship, she fails to see who she is really dealing with; he can’t be himself because he is too busy trying to live up to what she expects him to be! Ladies, as Tupac says, ‘take it easy!’ Examine yourself and figure out why you want a man, not just who you want as your man. Then open your mind to the possibility that he may not be what society (or your mother) thinks he should be, but rather, he’s good for you; you’re good for him and neither one of you ‘needs fixing’ in order to please the other. Once you do that, you’ll find that there are black men out here that are not throwaways, but worthy of your love and respect.

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John Brown — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:57:33 GMT

When are you going to do a series on black MEN??? Black men are in much bigger danger than black women. Black men are not in colleges; black men are in prisons, on drugs and so much trouble. When will you ever do a series on black MEN????

I see this is part of the racial stereotypes against black men. If a black men is suffering nobody cares as if he deserves to. He is demonised.

Brian Williams you can do better...

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Delores, Chicago, IL — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:59:30 GMT

BLACK LOVE

What it is and what it ain’t.

Black Love is two souls united, standing together indivisible against and amid a score of a racist people whose only goal in life is to keep the black love from staying black.

Black Love is the intelligence shared between two,
AND understands what lengths racists will go to,
to stop us from holding hands, strengthening one another
whose women despise sistah’s but want to claim our brothers.

Black love is recognizing the power of the black woman
and to those foolish invaders of our seed
who unconvincingly proclaim
they know best what our black men need

Who chose to believe black men favor them because they are white
and that Driving Miss Daisy - makes it alright

then try to persuade you to leave your own kind
insulting your mothers and sisters each time

Black Love understands - no black child is born
but through a black woman
Her daughters
Her sons

Other women… like scavengers are desperate at best
Those seeking selfish pleasures using Black men for Sex
What need is so great as to sell ones own soul
- less you're filled with self hate
for the Myths you've been told

Black Love isn't some weak little breeze
its’ force can't be categorize
in : one, twos or threes

For Black Love is creating beautiful black babies
with hair soft as cotton…
No ifs, buts or Maybe’s
Born into Histories that live on
Un-forgotten

Our bond goes much deeper than color’ of skin
Black Lovers understand the game you play
and Know why …You can't win!

Staying on Track
Keeping it Black!

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Dr. Wendisaree, Brooklyn, NY — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:10:28 GMT

Similar to many of the thoughts shared I am appalled with the deafening silence around AIDS/HIV and poverty among African American women and their families. But even more disappointing to me about this survey of Black women's issues is the divisiveness I feel being perpetuated between Black men and other women of African descent throughout this nation who are no doubt impacted by the dual daggers of racism and sexism.
From the description I learn that we will discuss the disparity in education between Black women and Black men, while not simultaneously juxtaposing how slight these gains are relative to the education experiences of American White men and women.
This segment sets the stage for furthering the divide between Black men and women in romantic relationships. The culprit for Black women's non-married status seems to be singularly placed on their educational and financial success, while leaving unexamined the promotion of a White standard of beauty which places the undeniable majesty of a Black women's beauty at its polar opposite. Just as consumers are seduced with the latest, fastest, sleekest automobile, cell phone, stereo, etc., etc., so has the Black man been seduced away from the Black woman. And so while Black men and women love one another, there are forces which work against their successful coupling. These forces are further strengthened by the over-institutionalization of Black men in America's prison industrial complex, thus creating a nearly impossible situation for Black men and women to create and support healthy Black families. Instead the programming shifts our attention to dating interracially, which while a viable option, is presented as the cure for dealing with Blackness. Some how we will not be able to find a solution amongst ourselves. We need non-Blacks to help us.
I do not think that the programming truly is interested in voicing the concerns of Black women across the country which, if I had to make a guess would be centered on the rise of AIDS/HIV among African descent women (no highest than among any ethnic group of women in the nation), their children, economic concerns (lack of wealth and grappling with issues of poverty), and dealing with the very hostile work environments which exact our society's racism and sexism on the backs of these women everyday. Why do we think so many decided to own their own businesses in the first place?

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CW, Hampton Roads, VA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:16:30 GMT

I am pleased to see this issue being addressed...Some of the comments here are very defensive and immature...No Black women are not the 'enemy'...I happen to be the owner and moderator of my own blog The "Black Women Deserve Better" Weblog...I bring a some of the issues in the NBC series to the forefront with unflinching honesty...We ALL need to be accountable...One thing I would like to see focused upon (as a few other seemingly intelligent posters indicated) are possible resources and solutions...I look forward to seeing more...

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PowerOfMan — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:19:08 GMT

Black women have raised young black boys alone now for years and now these young boys who are now men treat Black women badly and don’t respect them. I wonder why? What does the young son see in his mother to make him not want to date a Black woman or even respect her anymore? There is a book titled “If you want to stop dating sorry ass black men, then stop raising them to be” written by a Black intellectual woman.

As a Black male with 2 graduate degrees I find black women enjoying the comfort they have with men who act like young boys and they really don’t get along with strong minded black men who naturally want to lead a family. As far as dating is concerned, look at how most young black men dress; of course they dress according to what Black woman see what is attractive; Black men wearing jeans, braids in the hair clothes that fit to big and expensive sneakers or boots. Black men are just basically invisible servants in America and to most Black women

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Alwina Oyewoleturner, Jamaica, New York — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:25:41 GMT

So far I've watched a few of the videos online regarding education disparity, entrepreneurship and interracial dating.

I agree wholeheartedly with the facts and comments regarding each topic especially interracial dating. I believe there is a double standard for black women dating interracially. Black men are allowed to date outside the race but look at black women as being a "sell-out" to the black community.

I am a college graduate, young and successful; I want a black man of equal or higher status as me, not someone who hustles on the street corner daily. At minimum, you need a job, an education and an ambition to do more with yourself in all areas of your life. I do not think that is too much to ask of black men today.

Sometimes I think black men are intimidated by the power black women possess (education, economic wealth). They should see this as a positive and not a negative when they "compare" us to non-African-American women. Together we can enhance each others' strengths and weaknesses to create a black family that produces loving environment for our black children to live in.

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Margaret R., Chicago, Il — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:27:41 GMT

Lest someone get crazy, remember, it is not the Black woman's fault that they are succeeding in school while Black boys don't continue well in school! Part of this problem is 1) the absence of a father in Black homes; 2) boys/men taking the path of least resistance re: education, language skills, stick-to-it-ness, attire, etc. Get a JOB and stop trying to ONLY play ball or sing rap. And don't give me that slavery bit! Black women were there just as Black men were. Focus, bro; show some commitment to your future, family, faith.

I LIKE that the series showed that Black women ARE successful, etc, 'cuz we take so much mess off of many brothers. Black women aren't the ones dropping the banner forl Black family; we're raising y'alls kids. Stay home, marry your women and raise your kids. Children need their daddies. And there are other diseases affecting Black women other than AIDS--thanks for the break from that discussion.
See "Open Season On America's Black Women?"

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Natalie Bailey — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:32:49 GMT

As a black female breast cancer suvivor, also at high risk for diabetes and heart disease due to genetics I too decline to watch yet another attempt to put black people down.

God teaches us that he is the answer. That when we confess that Jesus died for us and he brought him back to life, we shall all be saved. Why can't corporate America embrace that black, white and any other race. Most of White america still hold themselves above all others and the reasons minorities fail in improving themselves in the work force is still due to discrimination, bottom line.

Therefore the only answer being, if you're truly looking for one, is to pray to God in Jeusu name for through him All things are possible. Success has nothing to do with the white man, black man or any other person that is trying to defeat you, whomever you are.

At first I too was outraged and my first thought was," what the"? But how will we know what to pray for if we are not aware. Though I've never agreed with surveys, most of the people I know don't take them, including myself. So they're not really accurate. They're just some folks and their opinion.
We all have them, dont', make them right though.

That low percentage of female black americans will lose their fight with illnesses because they don't know the word of God. Do a show on him if you really care, put someone like Dr. Creflo Dollar a very knowledegable, successful black man, Praise the Lord!
Follow up with him, screw your statistics. He'll teach you and break it down for you.

Don't be mad at Brian, he's just caught up in the game.
But since I usally watch Brian each night since Tom laugh, I'm thinking and hoping he will respond to why he chose this topic and that he will follow up with a positive note. Praying he will call Dr. Creflo Dollar and if he doesn't hoping someone will who reads this. He'll teach you that God talks to ALL men and women not just black people.

To my black people, reach for Jesus and quit waiting on the white man to give you a chance. God said all you have to do is ask in Jesus name and it shall be granted.
It's some rich black folks that aren't helping you either, making it and not giving back. All up in the white man's face like it's him who answered their prayers. Help each other and we'll be a stronger people. All people, God loves us all and demands that we all do the right thing, not just white people.

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Shae Pierce, Arlington, Texas — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:37:17 GMT

I welcome any series that will bring African American women into the lime light in a positive manner. I don't understand why so many AA people have a problem with this series. Could it be because it will make us examine ourselves and be held accountable for our negative actions. You know it's amazing that every other race in this country are elevating except black people. The reason that AA men are not attending college at the same rate as AA women is because they buy into the illusion that all of them can become wealthy by rapping or playing a sport. We must embrace education just like the asians and indians or we will always remain at the bottom of the pole. Most AA want to have nice cars and homes, however we don't want to work HARD to obtain them. Let's face it, the people who are the most successful in this country are the educated ones, bottom line !!! We have to stop blaming white people for our socio-economic status. Frankly, it has gotten to be a bit ridiculous.

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M, KCK — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:38:49 GMT

The most important thing stated regarding relationships/interracial releationships was pray; seeking God's guidance. I am certain these women are in a large city, if not NYC (I didn't look), and have a larger pool of men to choose from. However, try being 45, living in a metropolitan area of approximately 1.5 million, 20% african american, white men only want 18-30 playboy model look-a-likes and the african american pool is filled with marrieds, separated (but we getting divorced soon (it's been 7 years)), addiction issues or baby/mamas drama. What is a christian woman to do when the goal is marriage, not live with, not affair with, not get high with? You have to get love where God brings love to you from, but the world is still not open to love. This story isn't shedding new light on what african american women know, it's just going to bring out more males of different races to try to take advantage of a black woman's challenge(s).

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Tia — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:03:56 GMT

I think this is an excellent series. Especially the piece on education. I believe and always believed that an education was my passport to a successful life. The lack of importance my brother has placed on education is one of the main reasons he has struggled so much in his life. I believe if more black men had a higher respect for education their lives would change.

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B North Carolina — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:10:40 GMT

As a Black woman, I am completely discussed that my working hard and getting an education is in someway a plight or disadvantage. I am college educated and plan to go back for my M.S. My husband is not college educated and that is something he is choosing not to do. I have 2 black sons who will be college educated.

If we want change, we need to start at home. I don't condone rap music in my home. Why is it considered okay to not speak proper English, to not know how to complete a sentence or understand the spoken word? The problem is that some in the black community are not being raised to know what is important and what is not. Those $100+ shoes are not important, but reading and comprehending that book is.

Some are not teaching their children right from wrong, what is and is not acceptable. It is a vicious circle. It is not wrong for black people to mesh into society. Why are we called African-American? I don’t know anyone from Africa, nor have I ever even been there. Most of us don't even know where our ancestors originated from on that vast continent, so why do we have a need to be separate from America? I would rather be called Black if I must be called anything other than American

Who is to blame for the fact that black men don't go to college, are incarcerated at a higher rate, or are on drugs? Black men are to blame for that and no one else. As black people, we need to stop looking at who is to blame and start focusing on what needs to be done to change the situation. Stop trying to get off for the crimes and misdeeds that are done and focus on equality in judgment. If a black man beats a man almost to death, he should go to jail. If a white man brandishes a fire arm in a public place, he should go to jail. Focus on punishment for all not trying to exonerate the black man because he is black and because “the white man is keeping us down.” Give me a break.As a Black woman, I am completely discussed that my working hard and getting an education is in someway a plight or disadvantage. I am college educated and plan to go back for my M.S. My husband is not college educated and that is something he is choosing not to do. I have 2 black sons who will be college educated.

If we want change, we need to start at home. I don't condone rap music in my home. Why is it considered okay to not speak proper English, to not know how to complete a sentence or understand the spoken word? The problem is that some in the black community are not being raised to know what is important and what is not. Those $100+ shoes are not important, but reading and comprehending that book is.

Some are not teaching their children right from wrong, what is and is not acceptable. It is a vicious circle. It is not wrong for black people to mesh into society. Why are we called African-American? I don’t know anyone from Africa, nor have I ever even been there. Most of us don't even know where our ancestors originated from on that vast continent, so why do we have a need to be separate from America? I would rather be called Black if I must be called anything other than American

Who is to blame for the fact that black men don't go to college, are incarcerated at a higher rate, or are on drugs? Black men are to blame for that and no one else. As black people, we need to stop looking at who is to blame and start focusing on what needs to be done to change the situation. Stop trying to get off for the crimes and misdeeds that are done and focus on equality in judgment. If a black man beats a man almost to death, he should go to jail. If a white man brandishes a fire arm in a public place, he should go to jail. Focus on punishment for all not trying to exonerate the black man because he is black and because “the white man is keeping us down.” Give me a break.
As a Black woman, I am completely discussed that my working hard and getting an education is in someway a plight or disadvantage. I am college educated and plan to go back for my M.S. My husband is not college educated and that is something he is choosing not to do. I have 2 black sons who will be college educated.

If we want change, we need to start at home. I don't condone rap music in my home. Why is it considered okay to not speak proper English, to not know how to complete a sentence or understand the spoken word? The problem is that some in the black community are not being raised to know what is important and what is not. Those $100+ shoes are not important, but reading and comprehending that book is.

Some are not teaching their children right from wrong, what is and is not acceptable. It is a vicious circle. It is not wrong for black people to mesh into society. Why are we called African-American? I don’t know anyone from Africa, nor have I ever even been there. Most of us don't even know where our ancestors originated from on that vast continent, so why do we have a need to be separate from America? I would rather be called Black if I must be called anything other than American

Who is to blame for the fact that black men don't go to college, are incarcerated at a higher rate, or are on drugs? Black men are to blame for that and no one else. As black people, we need to stop looking at who is to blame and start focusing on what needs to be done to change the situation. Stop trying to get off for the crimes and misdeeds that are done and focus on equality in judgment. If a black man beats a man almost to death, he should go to jail. If a white man brandishes a fire arm in a public place, he should go to jail. Focus on punishment for all not trying to exonerate the black man because he is black and because “the white man is keeping us down.” Give me a break.As a Black woman, I am completely discussed that my working hard and getting an education is in someway a plight or disadvantage. I am college educated and plan to go back for my M.S. My husband is not college educated and that is something he is choosing not to do. I have 2 black sons who will be college educated.

If we want change, we need to start at home. I don't condone rap music in my home. Why is it considered okay to not speak proper English, to not know how to complete a sentence or understand the spoken word? The problem is that some in the black community are not being raised to know what is important and what is not. Those $100+ shoes are not important, but reading and comprehending that book is.

Some are not teaching their children right from wrong, what is and is not acceptable. It is a vicious circle. It is not wrong for black people to mesh into society. Why are we called African-American? I don’t know anyone from Africa, nor have I ever even been there. Most of us don't even know where our ancestors originated from on that vast continent, so why do we have a need to be separate from America? I would rather be called Black if I must be called anything other than American

Who is to blame for the fact that black men don't go to college, are incarcerated at a higher rate, or are on drugs? Black men are to blame for that and no one else. As black people, we need to stop looking at who is to blame and start focusing on what needs to be done to change the situation. Stop trying to get off for the crimes and misdeeds that are done and focus on equality in judgment. If a black man beats a man almost to death, he should go to jail. If a white man brandishes a fire arm in a public place, he should go to jail. Focus on punishment for all not trying to exonerate the black man because he is black and because “the white man is keeping us down.” Give me a break. We are the only group of people that have derogoitory names for success and achievement. How many times have you heard " uncle tom, oreo, acting/talking white, house n-----. I know I have since middle school and I am 30 years old. This series does not help. Where is the study of white, asians, and hispanics. I love it that I am successful and I work hard. It is not a negitive thing.

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Steve, Oakland, CA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:24:18 GMT

For those looking for the series, It is part of the NBC Nightly news with Brian Williams, usually shown somewhere between 5:30-7:30pm in your city. Better yet watch it on the web along with some extra segments.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21982216/

The initial segment was well presented by Rehema Ellis et al yet commercial TV (microwave news) only allocated 2 min 36 sec to cover the first issue.

The AA community is dynamic & multi-faceted with a long track record of achievement. We cannot be defined or understood by grouping us into one lump for any topic. There are too many examples of success in every corner and level of society to not believe our capabilities or to use excuses any longer. It's 2007.

Education has long been the "secret" for the majority community (and other minorities/immigrants ie; Asians, East Indians) and was understood & preached by our civil rights leaders of the 60s along with our parents, grandparents. Yet for some reason(s) and for a segment of our community, Education is no longer cool.
In a fast moving world with intense competition, those individuals who choose to wade in without the proper preparation & tools in their tool box have chosen to significantly reduce their opportunities.
The saddest part is that the explanations / excuses( slavery, racism, poverty, etc) used no longer get the attention or sympathy of the majority (tired old song plus their own issues)and are harder to support because so many AAs have / are succeeding everyday. Some in our community are not even trying to wade in, they have chosen to just stand by the edges and throw stones at the participants.

Are there real problems, challenges & hurdles? Absolutely. Are there ways to solve, overcome or alternatives? Yes, everywhere. So don't despair. Search for solutions / help, work on your own issues then help others along the way.

Don't let others define You, don't look for respect from others, don't buy into the excuses and don't turn aganist each other.
As JB said, I'm Black and I'm Proud.

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M.S. St. Petersburg, FL — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:24:45 GMT

Thank you Brooke from NYC. Your comments were right on target. NBC, thank you also for daring to take on such a sensitive yet important issue. I am thrilled that this segment will highlight the achievements of AA women in spite of their being ranked as lowest on the economic scale. AA women please watch with an AA girl.

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Allyssa H. Boston, MA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:45:00 GMT

Funny this topic should be on the nightly news. I spent the w/e discussing this issue with an Asian American woman friend. As an educator in a private college institution, I find it striking the number of young women on campus in comparison to young men. As a health care provider it is equally striking the number of young adults without educational plans/goals in their junior and senior year. The question we need to be asking ourselves is what can we be doing as role models and mentors to assist these young people in society today and how can we help each other as move in the greater world today.
I personally make it my mission to meet and mentor students that are interested in health care and seek opportunities to network with others both professional and non professional. We have much knowledge to impart to young adults and to each other

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M.Y. Ojo, Baltimore, Maryland — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:06:31 GMT

I have really enjoyed watching this series but would have loved to have some focus on issues that hit the African American community, particularily women the hardest and that is poverty, HIV and drugs. There should have also been some time devoted to health care disparities among African American women when it comes to being diagnosed with cancer and the exploding Type 2 diabetes in the community. Also, the culture of clinical depression.

All seems well for those women who are featured in the story but women, let along African American are at that rate of income or social status.

Although the elements I mentioned weren't included in the story, it is wonderful to see the direction of diversity within NBC in bravely presenting such an outstanding series.

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Jay. Oakland, Ca — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:10:28 GMT

Conscious Daughter asked a question that's been asked a few times: Why is it that anytime black women ever get a little recognition for what they've done or what the face, the black community, in particular black men, want to steal it away from them.

I think the answer is simple. Can you just trumpet your own success WITHOUT THE COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS? Soon as you mention Black men you invite comment. Even in her post she went on to allude to a luxury that AA women don't have: Any reasonable person can read btwn the line and extrapolate that she means AA men have that luxury. If your success is framed with a comparative analysis, a slight towards men, then don't don't cry foul when men react & defend themselves? I don't understand how that point is lost on apparently educated people? To me what any particular AA women does or doesn't do has no effect on my success or failure so I can only root for her success, in the end it makes for a better public space.

THE biggest problem for Black Americans (really can we get rid of the ridiculous African part, I mean really, a continent? And to the revolutionaries still shooting pointless blanks; been to the continent and loved every minute of it so pump your brakes on the
1960’s Marxist (ironically white) rhetoric)

Anyway, THE most compelling comment that outlines the first and biggest challenge for Black Americans was written by N Meredith San Francisco (fellow Bay Area’n of course) who wrote:

‘I think that we all have the capacity to define our own individual realities and I really try to stay clear from socially conditioned group think.’

WOW, that said it all. THAT’S what true freedom is about, unless you claim to want freedom but are scared to death of it. If you’re trapped in the reasoning of group think, foolishly believing the group will keep you secure & safe, locked inside a narrow
repression/oppression framework unable to contemplate life outside the political self this concept will be difficult to embrace and your only hope is some cathartic event.

THE reality is that all Black Americans will never ALL rise at the same time. All these group-think, one size fits all strategies haven't and won't work.
It's 2007, a very different America than 1967.

For those deep in the Judeo-Christian ethos that runs rampant and quite frankly many times unchecked; the deliver us all at the same time from bondage thing will not play out in the real world. Moses and no other figure is coming around the corner to save the day and washing away all ills, lifting everyone at the same time.

Community service has it's place and should always be championed but at the end of the day no one is responsible for you accept you AND the only thing any Black American can do is take care of them & theirs and live their lives, creating as N Meredith said their own realities. That's something realistic that we can hope & strive for.

Anything else is just nonsensical superstitious
fantasy and a waste of energy & time.

Finally, All this nonsense about who should date who and what it means. Please, a Black man or woman's life is for him or her to live, PERIOD. Even though your fragile emotions can't handle someone doing something different or being different, leave them alone!

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Dr. Melody McCloud — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:17:40 GMT

I am the author of BLESSED HEALTH: The African-American Woman's Guide to Physical & Spiritual Well-being. I trust this series addresses the issues affecting us--also covered in my book, which includes spiritual advice as well. While there's more NBC could've done, I am grateful to them for doing something to address Black women's concerns. Thanks.

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Blessed Health author, — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:23:58 GMT

Also, will people stop bashing the series before seeing what is being presented? Brothers, hang on; who said there won't be a series on you? Stop always being so reactionary. Thank you NBC. I tried to get other networks (and previously NBC!) to deal with this issue before, but was pushed back. So, thanks for doing something.

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Christine Las Vegas NV — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:29:24 GMT

Ok I live in Las Vegas what time and what channal thank you

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Monnica, Indianapolis IN — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:41:09 GMT

Wow. I have to respond to some of the comments which fall back on blaming the problems and shortcomings of black men on slavery and emasculation. Black women had it AT LEAST as bad and still face the dual challenges of race and gender. We have been, and continue to be defeminized by society at large. There are black men who earn a lot of money tearing down black women (in rap music and videos). When there are children resulting from long or short-term relationships, we are usually the ones who shoulder the responsibility for raising those children on our own. As a college educated black woman, I am sick and tired of hearing black men whine about how hard it is for them. If they only spent so much of that energy trying to better themselves and their situation; especially when there ARE black men who do rise above.

I’ve watched black men who have had substantially greater economic opportunities than I have had squander those opportunities. One has fallen prey to crack at a ripe middle age. Who does he blame? White people and the government, of course. To hear him tell it, they practically put the crack pipe in his hand. He had no choice. This is a person who was making nearly six figures. The other worked for years at the same high paying factory job. He retired last year and gets twice as much in pension each month as I earn working forty hours per week. Still, he has never owned a home, still borrows money from his elderly mother, his children, and me. You can’t blame this sort of nonsense on racism and slavery. These are personal choices.

Cry me a river, please.

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Bonnie Mundorff; Bolivar, PA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:53:59 GMT

While I feel that this story is noteworthy, I fail to see why it is being aired now. You have an entire week planned around African American women and there is already an entire month dedicated to African American issues. Save these stories until then. I love equality as much as the next person, but enough is enough. There are Black Negro Colleges/Funds, Black Miss America, and Black History Month, but if any other race has an exclusive college,contest, or holiday, they are being discriminatory.

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G Shamlin, Los Angeles, CA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:55:56 GMT

I was very disappointed by the THREE MINUTES of coverage on such an important issue. I'll tune in Tuesday just to see what tonights THREE MINUTES will cover but I doubt I'll watch any further. What a shame to HYPE this storyline and then give it less coverage than a Viagra commercial.

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Hugh Scoggins Ellicott City, Maryland — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:56:30 GMT

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Aqualyn Laury, Atlanta, GA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:56:52 GMT

Kudos to MSNBC for your investment in this project. I trust that this project is the genesis of a positive mission to address a number of concerns in the African American community. In this same spirit of positivity, fact-finding, and issue-resolution, I hope that this week-long series will launch a global initiative on issues that impact us directly - alongside steps to address them to our satisfaction.

I'd urge MSNBC to partner with organizations having the greatest reach into the collective experiences of people of (direct) African ancestry. The communities represented should be multi-faceted including people from every socioeconomic class, education level, age (3+), cultural lineage, religion/spirituality, corporate/entrepreneur-minded (see AP-quoted Jessica Faye Carter's latest book, DOUBLE OUTSIDERS: HOW WOMEN OF COLOR CAN SUCCEED IN CORPORATE AMERICA) etc.

By leveraging what we know and what we experience in each of these communities both through segmentation as well as in the aggregate, we can more proactively and impactfully produce solutions to address the mission of this project/initiative which is in essence to create a sustainable and enriching experience for all future generations...whether locally or globally. MSNBC needn't do this alone. There are a wealth of partners willing to help in this worthwhile work. Ask...

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Gail, Minneapolis, MM — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:01:45 GMT

For all the haters re this series, why not create our own series report then, showing black women's issues as we'd like them presented? Might take a little collaboration, a little work, but in today's tech world it wouldn't be difficult to do.

Alas, I guess it has always been so much easier for people, "our" people especially but many "other" people to armchair quarter back about what someone else (the media, corporations, the president) is doing "right" or or ain't doing "right" re our individual lives and community.

So...nevermind.

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Rittstuff, Blountstown, FL — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:02:00 GMT

There can be nothing wrong with shedding a light on a subject that America in general ignores. Whenever anyone points out the disparity in the levels of success and life in black and white America, white Americans scream in unison that it's not their fault, they didn't do it, that we're lazy, stupid, criminals...whatever the current term is. It's boring. The truth is that despite gains and measures to make the playing field level, it hasn't really worked that well. For every one gain we get, we lose on another front.

Until white people fully accept their culpability in the plight of America as one nation, till black people understand their responsibility to everyone to make life better, we will continue to struggle under the burden of guilt and blame. We are all at fault.

So many black people try to work hard and find happiness only to listen to other people who want to take it from them. It's hard, I know. You work with white people who don't want you there and do whatever they can to make you leave. You live among black people who think there is some black code that you have to live by and if you do one thing outside that code, you're not "black enough" whatever that means.

We have to be strong enough to find our own joy and stand by the choices we make and be aware of ourselves. Blaming other people won't work. Nobody will help us if we don't help ourselves.

There is a Yahoo group that is dedicated to Black Women who cross the color line romantically. We are sistas who are successful in many ways, we are loving, kind women with our own minds and we all date and marry men of our choice regardless of race or ethnicity. We freely express our opinions and we invite all black women who are curious or have made a choice to join us. We don't censor your thoughts and you are invited to be as open as you like. We help each other and trust each other.

Please join us if you would like to find like-minded sistas who will support you and your choices.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sistas_Loving_Across_the_Color_Line/

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syzlyn1, Los Angeles — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:04:18 GMT

I'm VERY DISAPPOINTED by what I saw last night. This story has been hyped for days on end and when it comes time to air the piece it's all of THREE MINUTES and at the END of the broadcast! Black women are far more important and valued in such high regard, I don't find your piece to be of any significant value so I will not be tuning in to see the remaining segments, THREE MINUTES per night, FIVE NIGHTS, WOW a total of FIFTEEN MINUTES for the entire week!. A VIAGRA commercial gets more airtime that this piece, very sad indeed.

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jacqueline ware, seattle, washington — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:04:58 GMT

In my humble opinion, this series is just another tool designed to amplify the negatives, while completely ignoring the positives in the African-American community. Whenever local government, politicians, school districts, law enforcement, and the media make it a mission to accentuate the problems and challenges in the African-American community; it serves only to strangle and suffocate all their incredible accomplishments and contributions - against the odds.

African-Americans must earn respect. In doing so, it is necessary to privately address issues that threaten the health and welfare of their families and communities. Divide and conquer is not a new invention. African-Americans are a group divided and therefore, easily conquered.

African-Americans MUST take control of their destiny and move toward self-reliance and an independence that generates trust and substantial income in the community in the form of businesses and corportions.
Hip Hop entertainers and actors need to revitalize the communities that helped to make them millions. Open businesses, start private schools - take ownership. Hire other African-Americans; particularly the youth. Put yourself in a position to help, not hinder; become empowered, not powerless.

African-Americans are the only ones that can instill personal pride and self-respect. Reject unhealthy and destructive behavior; drugs, alcohol, black-on-black crime, gangs, the demeaning of women, and domestic violence.

Embrace and demand respect. When African-Americans are in a position of power as a group; that respect will come.

We have to understand exactly why the press continually compares African-Americans to Eurpopean Americans and understand what happens to a people that are constanting fed negative information.

I refuse to watch this series because I have a sense of why it was produced; to further erode the self-esteem of African-Americans; and to give the world the impression that African-Americans are incompetent, dependent, unhealthy, unintelligent, and reckless.

I am very uncomfortable with this series as I truly believe it was produced to make African-American feel inferior and to deepen the belief that African-Americans are second class citizens; a group doomed for self-destruction.

Like a vapor that appears for a moment and quickly vanishes away; the fix remains elusive.

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Kia Dove, Kinston, N.C. — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:31:54 GMT

One of the most pressing issues is the psychological effects of overeating. We need to learn how to eat small portions, to chew slowly 33 times per bite, and to shy away from sweets. Health issues, social issues, and others will improve when we curtail emotional overeating and learn healthy ways to eat.

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Monica P Hawkins — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:54:52 GMT

NBC News - Thank you. A couple of thoughts 1)Might NBC Universal now create a Prime Time Show that focuses on this very deep/compelling demographic which obviously has an audience - PLEASE!!!!! It's been a LONG TIME since Cosby 2) Did you all interview The Executive Leadership Council and/or Odyssey Media leadership for this series. They serve the leaders of our rich community and our young people need to see these images thoughtfully positioned. 3) Can this series be more than once or twice per year - given the demographic shift in the nation this could be the "blue ocean" to create a diversity series on a quartley basis signficance of the topic in society at large...

It's hard to tell our story in a soundbite or two - but NBC- we appreciate your efforts.

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Antoinette, Washington DC — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:31:07 GMT

While i am very proud of the successes and stride that we black women have made over these past 50 years...i think that Health continues to be an area that we are challenged by. In particularly, the HIV and AIDS epedemic that is continuously ravaging our communities. Most black women are contracting this illness through heterosexual contact with "heterosexual" men. When in reality, these men are sleeping with both men and women. The MAJOR issues in our culture #1 is Health and #2 Identity.

Black women have realized thier value through self presevervation...not the media sensationalizing the images in which they think we are believe in. We know better than that, and it's time the "media dance" get with the program. Black men however, have major issues with identifying who they ought to be due to lack of example from both Black men and women. It is up to us as a people to create the standards in which we want to live by and not brain wash ourselves into believing what the larger society thinks of us. We have the cultural power to create and implement prosperous values that are deeply rooted in our proud heritage. Black men...consider this as a foundation of your identity, you come from: Strong, Intellegent, Courageous, Fearless, Family Oriented, Community Oriented , God Fearing history! Black women are making these stride in today's society because we eat, sleep, dream, and breath these principles! You should too! From this foundation....build a legacy that you can be proud of and one that 10 generations from now your great-grand times over will be deeply grounded in and proud of.

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JerseyBred, New York, NY — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:39:38 GMT

Lord have mercy. *SMH* I knew this "in-depth" coverage was gonna be crap. I was dying to watch it just so that I can tear it apart.

I'm tired of mainstream media depicting Black women as overachieving losers. I really hated how they shift over to Black men so that they can castigate them for not catching up. I hate how the only important topic that they're going to discuss is our health issues.

Why are our dating patterns so damned fascinating? I live in NYC & see Bob & Kisha (in some cases an Alek Wek or Iman clone) everyday & I'm so unfazed by it.

Why is Hip Hop the scapegoat for everything? Are parents (namely White parents) too scared to look into the mirror & see that they're the reason that their kids are failures? Was everything all roses & peaches & cream before 2 turntables & a mic started a global phenomenon? Shifting blame fixes absolutely nothing.

& last I checked, women from every walk of life are doing their thing but Black folks always manage to stick out like a sore thumb & our success is shown negatively.

I am all too tired of the excessive coverage of "The Plight of the Unwed Black Woman." They've got us sounding like our lives play out like some bad horror flick.

It's one thing for Essence or some small budget Black director to speak on this overdone topic, but now mainstream media's covering this.

You know, I think I miss the days of mainstream media not caring about us & our real issues.

& a few posters pointed out how HIV/AIDS isn't mentioned but breast cancer is. That is the #1 health issue in our community so I don't understand how that wasn't discussed.

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Barbara Summey Marshall — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:39:50 GMT

Thanks for the sequel on Black women. The subject matter experts have brought clarity and insight to relevant concerns. I am a disabled veteran who is proud to also be a black woman. The journey has only begun. My website tells the story...www.stepsnstages.com

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D. Williams, Bear, Delaware — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:41:06 GMT

I was very disappointed with the first segment of this series which aired last night 11/26/07. Firstly, the segment didn't air until 6:55pm EST (5 minutes before the end of the show) and concluded at 6:58pm. Why even bother to conduct a series if you're not going to give it a respectable amount of coverage so that America can try and appreciate some of the key issues facing African-American women today. I hope that the other segments planned for the week will not only receive more air time, but also air earlier in the program. NBC, please give us more respect and present our issues correctly or don't bother at all.

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Lesan, South Jersey, NJ — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:43:50 GMT

Well, what can I say? I am 54, well educated, never married, homeowner, no children, successful in my career, nice looking, well dressed, and all the rest. Yet I am alone. And trust me I take full responsibility for the baggage that I have brought to relationships, rendering these relationships weak and ineffectual. I am also cognizant of the number of men who have been in my life who simply do not have it together - emotionally, psychologically, financially and otherwise.

I am still holding out for a black man. No offense but I cannot see myself romantically involved with a white man. So I continue to look, hope and pray. I'm not mad at the sisters who make the choice to jump to the other side, whatever side that might be. No one in their right mind wants to grow old alone. Most women want companionship, love, nurturing. Most women want someone to curl up with on a cold, winter night. I know that I do.

At 54, I have grown weary and depressed about the lack of black male companionship but I have not given up, not entirely. While I no longer have a choice about having children (I made a choice not to have children outsidd of marriage), I still have the choice to date a black man.

I will continue to pursue that option while also praying that God will open a door for me.

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Lillie B. Greene, Lakewood WA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:54:34 GMT

I think this in another tactics of trying to devide black women and black men. Whites has always tried to devide us. How can black women be devided from black men, when we are their mothers?

Whites do not want black men to succeeds, because they are a threat; so now you say black women are out doing black men.

Now you want to talk about black women health. Everybody have health problems white and black. But, no, as blackes we have the worst of all, the poorest, dumbs, fats, sickest, and any thing negative that can be said about blacks.

Can't you find any thing good to say about us? That we do have money, not all from sports, we do get an education men and women, we are professionals.we are good parents.

What I hate to see is a black woman doing your dirty work. Maybe one day we will learn not to let Mr. Charlie use us; just like in slavery the always used us to do their dirt against other blacks.

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runGrun — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:18:43 GMT

Jay from SF -

Reading REALLY IS FUNDAMENTAL. The post from the AA woman was in response to a AA man in ATL that claims he has no choice but to date others (other than Black because HE found no Qualified women) Qualified in this instance because you might not understand, means - educated, decent job, decent credit... etc. Again - IF a Black man can't find a Good Black Woman in ATL - IT IS MOST CERTAINLY BECAUSE HE DOESN'WANT ONE.. Be a MAN and Just OWN UP TO IT... Don't try to cast negative apersions on a group of women!

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LaCretiah, Seattle — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:31:03 GMT

I personally applaud NBC nightly news for reporting on our triumphs and struggles. As a 35 year old women raising two African American boys I am now starting to experience topping out and/or hitting the glass ceiling and feeling as though I may not be able to advance in the organization I have grown up in. The numbers that were reported regarding the number of AAW in college verses AAM. WOW! What and how does one explain that to the young men she is raising? African American Woman have historically had so much taken away from us that education is almost the one thing that remains in our possession. KNOWLEDGE is KEY and EMPOWERING! More importantly NBC has provided us with this information at the national level so WHAT ARE WE AS AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN GOING TO DO WITH IT? Not to say there haven't been any other reports but at this level of exposure, I think not. Have you seen some of the stats they are sharing? Please encourage your mothers, daughters, sisters, aunts, grandmothers and friends to watch and pay close attention to this series. Let's begin to dialogue and talk about the realness of the situation. PLEASE DO NOT DISCOUNT ALL THE QUALITY African American Men as there are many who have hired, assisted, co-signed and flat out SUPPORTED us on our way up and over.

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:31:35 GMT

It is apparent that this feature is not produced by any one in the black community. Another attempt to divide and conquer. It amazes me to see what will they come up with next? "They" is the white male power structure that is diverting our attention away from what real and relevant to pouring salt on an open wound. When will you STOP. I guess when you are conquered. What ever you sow you will reap. Frances Cress Welsing said it best, "Unless you understand white male domination everything else will confuse you".

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Sondra, Austin TX — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:39:35 GMT

Come on Black men...stop complaining and step up to the plate. If you can excel in sports, rap music and in other areas you can excel in education and in corporate America. We believe in you. It's not about how much money you make - it's about family values and taking control and showing some leadership in your family - just like the good old days. As Black women we've got to stop having all these babies out of wedlock and commit to following the Black man when shows strength. Keeping the family together and showing some decent family values like our ancestors did is the ultimate solution - not competing against each other. My husband and I are raising three strong, educated Black boys who have the right priorities in life. My husband never allowed for them to make excuses for failure. To be a strong Black woman is not a threat to a Black man - it is a compliment. This is not the 1950's Black people. Let's wake up and become engaged in a positive way educationally, politically and spiritually. Let's all enjoy the series this week and learn from it.

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Candyss S., Boston, MA — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:42:27 GMT

The efforts of “African American Women and Where They Stand” openly unveil some of the factual issues and concerns that us African-American women question and deal with on a daily basis. I am thankful that such a well known network took the time to focus on such a wonderful group of people who are so often overlooked and unappreciated.

After reading some of the other comments posted, it is clear that such topic is very ambiguous in terms of its many ways of being perceived by the African-America audience. Much sensitivity from fellow Blacks seems to be arising due to the many abrasions that have been made on to our communities by the media. However, I feel as if this particular viewing of “us” is real and is in our benefit. Though it does not cover all sectors of our community, still, we can all learn from the material being presented through this series. Personally, I am quite excited about it.

I am a 23 year old female who will be graduating with a M.Ed. in School Guidance Counseling in 2008. It is rare that I find Black men (regardless of age) in my classes or in any other graduate program(s). Most of my close female friends who are in graduate school say that their experience is similar if not identical to mine… I can also identify with the prominent idea that the makeup of the African-American family structure will be very different in the years to come due to the imbalanced ratios amongst Black males and women. Many people (despite race/culture) conclude that such imbalances occur due to education differences, variables in aspiration/interest, sexuality (heterosexuality vs. homosexuality), percentages of those that are in prison as opposed to those who are not…etc… There are many factors that contribute to what, why and where African-American women stand. In spite of delimitations, I am most appreciative of what IS being covered in this series by NBC, rather than what is NOT being presented. Who knows, maybe NBC will do a follow up with “African American Men and Where They Stand.”

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Jai — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:42:55 GMT

NBC is no better than those who produce the hip-hop videos you love to talk about. You can have all the newscasts you want, but when I open up your website and the only picture you have posted is one of an African-American young lady with a "mammy" scarf tied around her head...what difference does it make? African-American women continue to be the brunt of jokes and degrading stereotypes in the mainstream media as well as BET, MTV, etc..

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Virginia Somoya, Las Vegas, NV — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:45:09 GMT

I'm disapppointed that NBC chooses to segregate the plight of black women as being different from white women. The differences that white women see are that more black women can return to school because as a minority they qualify for programs, both personal and business related, that white women can not take advantage of. I too was a single Mom; didn't get ANY aid, no free babysitting while I returned to school, no food stamps, no Medicaid, no special interest loans or give-aways. I worked 2 jobs, worried about my kids being home alone after school, fed them, clothed them and saw they did what was expected of them by their schools and their community. Wish I could have obtained my degree and started my own business. I don't think a black woman's color should give her privileges not afforded to ALL women.

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Lorna Evergreen Park, IL — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:22:54 GMT

Love the series, just think as an African American Women that there needs to be more depth to the report. I feel like we're just getting the Power Points.

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Carolyn R. Jackson, Topeka, KS — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:34:24 GMT

Mr. Williams,

A simple Thank You, to you and NBC for seeing the vital need to focus on the lives that many African
American women lead every day. The conversation and interest you have created among our race has been profound. I received at least three emails alerting me to the special series. Thank you for taking the time to educate the entire nation on things that many of us as black women take for granted. On the breast cancer story, you said one key thing that stuck in my mind and I hope will stick in the minds of everyone who heard it. After the reporter stressed the importance of African American women participating in trial studies, you said "We are talking about leveling the playing field". Mr. Williams, that is all any of us African Americans ever wanted -- a level playing field.....Thank you.

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linda — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:56:58 GMT

This disparity between the black women and black men, is nothing new. This has been going on since welfare was created. It's an old agenda. Destroy the black family. Keep the black man down. This is an old agenda. one of the ways to do this is give their women all the opportunties, and create strife between them, make the man feel less than all he can be, and make their women dominate and in control, and create a never this ending cycle we are seeing today.

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JDG, San Jose, CA — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:59:49 GMT

Solutions, Successful women and inter-racial dating

People speak of solutions as though they're so illusive.

It's really quite simple: more education (read the post by Steve from Oakland) and less babies.

I've read a lot about how wonderful, strong, smart,successful, morally superior women are and kudo's to you. After patting yourselves on the back most take that as justification for lecturing men big momma style on what we should do.
Convenient, self-serving, easy and goes nowhere, accept maybe helping you abdicate your responsibility.

And by the way Women; you do realize that men are still at the center if you blame us for all your ills or if you as a successful woman talk about how wonderful you are and then talk about how bad men are. The man is still at the center of that thinking. If you don't need a man, why are you so preoccupied with men? Just get us out of your lexicon and be about your business.

Anyway back to my central point:
I haven't read one word about all these smart successful women mentoring, talking to or working with young women and telling them to simply; keep their legs closed. Not as some ill-fated ridiculous collective (power play) construct which is usually where it ends up. But as a real livable strategy for their well-being and future.

Talk all you want about responsibility of the men, easy indignation, who can disagree with that, but in the final analysis it's the women who will bear the burden.

I see so many women/girls who have children with men and it's pretty obvious that he isn't father material (and really they aren't mother material) but they ignore the signs and continue. It's only other women who can foil this foolish notion that: 'a baby will make him act right, or make things better' NO NOT REALLY. Or how about this, re-direct that energy every time you think of disparaging men, reach out to another woman or girl and talk to her (no not more of the: girl we gotta stick together against the men nonsense)

Women it's you that are rewarding thug, irresponsible behavior. You are enablers, co-conspirators. Crucial to thug behavior & life-style is 'getting the women'.

It seems that you have a propensity for, an appetite for the street-brutha, malcontent, illiterate, knucklehead. Your choices matter, can't throw caution to the wind, take a joy ride then jump off and talk about how bad men are. Naah, see us men know how men are, no need to tell us and we also know you you choose those men, you reward those men. As an example: Women will talk about hiv/aids and blame men saying; men are sleeping with both other men & women. But will take no responsibility for the fact that these smart, successful women are quiet as kept, sleeping with the high-risk knucklehead thugs (talk about a down-low, that's the one know one wants to approach) You think we don't know? Why wouldn't we know? You think we're that detached just because we don't participate in the lifestyle?

Lastly: inter-racial dating:
Most of the men that date outside their race don't talk about Black women, unless they're attacked. The men talking bad about Black women are the men dating Black women. Things that make you go hmmmmm.

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Vienna, Brooklyn, NY — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:02:52 GMT

I'm very disappointed in this series, particularly as it addresses the success of black women in education and the workplace. As the show pointed out, it is difficult to look at black women's success and not contrast it with the performance of black men. But I am shocked that the series fails to attribute any of the blame, or even mention, the disproportionate incarceration rates of black men and the resulting disenfranchisement. Several studies have shown racial bias in prosecution, incarceration, and sentencing, but the series only talked about gender attitudes around education and the culture of hip hop and sports. How can incarcerations rates not be significant factor in why black women far outnumber black men in college when 1 in 4 black men aged 20 to 29 are in prison? How can it not explain why more successful black women have difficulty finding men that match them in professional achievement, or why black women control 62% of the buying power in the black community, or why black women control the black vote? Clearly this has implications for black women, and a mention could have helped to call attention to this issue. Yet the opportunity slipped by in this series.

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Biaze, Denver, CO — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:21:09 GMT

I am actually thrilled that NBC has taken the time to air a series showing the successes of African American women as well as the issues pertinent to us as a group. Too often we are portrayed as oversexualized beings with fatherless children and this finally shows us in an intellecualized manner. We would complain if they did a show on African American female entrepreneures because we would be mad that the underpriviiliaged segment of our community was not being represented. Instead of complaining use this as a platform in our community to open up dialogue and discuss the issues at hand. I am not one to sit back with complaints spewing from my mouth. I've actually started a group specifically for African American girls at the school I teach to discuss these exact issues and how to be and promote solutions. We need to take back our community and empower our young men and women to aspire for change and success. Not to compare themselves to the majority, but to epitomize what our grandparents and great-grandparents envisioned for us when they fought for our basic civil rights. We are dispositioned, yes, but we are not incapable of making change. We have become too complacaent in our excuses and too complacent in shifting fault. WE need to realize our beauty and the tremendous impact we have on a nation that thrives off our example. Hip hop is more popular than ever, but yet, we don't use the mediums we have been blessed with to promote positive change. We cannot just be driven by self interest but interest in our people as a whole! Lets take advantage that someone took notice to our issues and use it to help ourselves!

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BlackTantraGoddess, Laguna Beach, CA — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:08:08 GMT

I wish NBC had discussed black female interracial dating and marriage. As an young educated black business woman, in college and in business most of the guys I and other Gen X & Y professional black women are around are non black men. As a result we are dating and marrying non black men, not just white men either. Please consider coveraging us, and showing how we date, marry, and our careers and families.

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J. Rochelle Parker, San Diego, California — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:45:13 GMT

I am pleased that NBC has dedicated a week to the concerns of American-American women. I am an educated African-American female and I've often said that the issues that affect African-American women (high ratio of black women to men in college, lower percentage of black women not being married etc.) seem not to be media worthy. In addition, many black organizations emphasize the problems concerning black males while issues impacting black women are ignored. Hopefully this series will stimulate further discussions on a larger scale.

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Hugo Mejia--Painesville, Ohio — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:22:56 GMT

I find it suspicious that NBC would discuss these issue of African American Women and where they stand when in reality they should concentrate on the state of affairs of the black man in america. I applaud the black women that are in the majority of times are getting their families to inch forward but why does our society vilifies and demonizes men of color, maybe we do it to say yep! I told you they aren't any good.

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BookishBlackGirl, New York, NY — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:37:05 GMT

It always comes back to the same basic fact: mainstream media (msm) has a story and mainstream media sticks to its story! MSM's story on the black community is not: Look at how much they've achieved after a century of enslavement followed by more than 6 decades of institutional racism. Look at how they continue to achieve and prove themselves capable of succeeding and excelling in diverse fields...

In our dreams.

MSM's story about black America is more like: Look at how we got rid of Jim Crow and gave them all this opportunity and all they do is kill each other, write dirty songs and suck on the welfare state. At least some of them can run fast...

The point of NBC's 2-minute, "in depth" look was to explore the lives of black women. Running with a story on how we're starting businesses, graduating from college, achieving greater spending power, etc. would have been counter to the msm story. So, they had to temper it with consistent mentions of the precarious state of black men.

"http://bookishblackgirl.blogspot.com/2007/11/you-wanna-understand-black-women-you.html#links

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Georgia Goslee Silver Spring, MD — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:49:16 GMT

What is the good news about AA women? Can we please highlight that, not only for grown women, but for young AA girls who may watch. I personally can't stand it anymore....there has to be some good...please find it in an effort to create unity as opposed to more alienation and dispair.

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Tiffany, Charlottesville, VA — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:54:13 GMT

One thing I liked about the series is that when highlighting the higher education disparity between AA women and men, it did mention this starts early in grade school. But I would have liked for the narrator to explore this further. I have heard from family & friends in education that it's pertinent to capture a child's love of learning by the 3rd grade. And it is at this precious time when teachers, perhaps ones of all races, stop encouraging young black boys to excel in school or passively accept them falling behind their counterparts. And around this time some parents accept that. And children are passed through the system and don't value education. I'd like to see that addressed.

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JDG, San Diego, CA — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 05:26:10 GMT

A strategy for the Modern Black woman

It seems that with all the success, doing well etc. that I read about on these post, you’re not completely satisfied and appear to be lonely. Face it, no one needs a mate but it sure is sweet to have one.

Like converse and GM in the face of change you have refused to re-strategize to your own detriment.

Your approach to finding a mate is severely flawed; supported by premise that are not accurate or don’t consider an accurate assessment of the reality. First thing you need to do is forget those ‘sista-girl’ support groups and beauty salon chatter. Yeah they make you feel good emotionally to be around other women with shared experience to vent but you don’t gain any practical advice. Mostly what happens is the transfer of bad information back and forth. What develops out of it is usually group-think stuff. Of course you talk about more things than men, but I'm talking about men right now.

It will be a huge challenge for you because it’ll take a huge paradigm shift. You know you’re not good on taking advice, for the most part no one can tell you anything, you have it all figured out. But here’s the real deal.

Its 2007 not 1967; you no longer have sole control of the market.

The average ‘good’ Black man has more freedom. In 1967 Black men were denied access and their choices were limited and you enjoyed total access to the pool of Black men. Well that’s no longer the case and you haven’t adjusted your strategy. You’re still proceeding as though it’s 1967. The reality is that there is more access, freedom and proximity; in the workplace, communities, neighborhoods, etc. and the dating/marriage market is trending to reflect that. People from all over the world are mingling and socializing and will connect based more on hobbies/activities than a race, religion, etc.; particularly if you live on one of the coast in a major market. You are competing with ALL women for ALL men now. All the other women get it but you. You will have to come to the global dating table, even if kicking & screaming or be relegated to hating from the sideline. And you can no longer make up the rules for Black men. If you’re in an office, restaurant, etc. and a Black man comes in, you don’t have proprietary access. Every other woman if interested has access. We are not ‘your men’ we belong to ourselves. So if you are strong, smart, etc., then you will have no problem competing. And yes you will have to compete for Black men and all men. You can no longer go to social events, form a circle around a table, sit and wait for men to approach you; especially when everyone else is moving around mingling. Yes maybe it’s an anomaly but I’ve actually witnessed the above on a few occasions.

That sista-girl group-think information that tells you how to deal with Black men, treating Black men as a homogonous group won’t work. Complaining about and lecturing Black men as though you’re our mommas, trying to guilt us into being with you for pass transgressions of Black men from other generations and for political reasons won’t work. You will have to make a case for you, yourself, all alone, not the class or group you belong to, but your own individuality. If you’re lazy or afraid then hang on to the group-think; treat THE Black man you meet as ‘Black men’ instead of getting to know him as an individual not because of his race or the group he belongs to.
Perfect example of group-think (from a support group no doubt): I heard these writers talking about ‘sistas doing down-low patrol’ and they went on to say; ‘yeah if a brother does something outside what’s typical of black men, you know video games, sports. You know if he cooks you a nice gourmet dinner sistas start to wonder and check. I WAS FLOORED! Who comes up with this shit? So the group-think had determined what’s ‘normal’ behavior for a brother (one dimensional as it turns out) and said any deviation means trouble. Now what real man wants to deal with that shit?

Thinking to let go of:

Control/power plays: The: I’m more successful, I’m smarter, morally superior case you make is only a veil attempt to justify why you should be in control (an issue for those afraid they’ll be controlled). You start positioning with this very early. You being in control don’t guarantee relationship success. Control freaks don’t make good mates anyway.

When you work with or see a Black man with a White woman, the assumption (from group-think) is that he likes all & only White women (that group). Maybe, maybe not; maybe he’s a nice guy with brothers, co-workers, friends that might be available. Maybe he dates all women with no preference (with limited group-think you can’t consider that). You immediately dismiss him and any other potential. Be like us, Black men don’t care if a woman has dated White men or what her preference is; if we like her we will at least make an attempt. It seems that you immediately dismiss the guy because of your insecurity about your own femininity and identity. Maybe because you quietly secretly believe all the old stereotypes and what’s been said about Black women? ‘So It’s easy and convenient to dismiss the guy as a sell out, weak etc. rather than risk competing. So stop trippin, even if no brothers dated outside their race (which is not going to stop) there still wouldn’t be enough to go around.

The real data suggest that you have no choice but to date outside of your race. Do the math; there just aren’t enough Black men to go around. If tomorrow every Black man was connected with a Black woman, thousands of women would still be without a man. What are you going to do? Have affairs with married men? Be alone?
See the problem you’re having with that notion stems from the fact that you have talked so much shit about inter-racial dating that it’s hard to come to terms with it. Well all I can say is you made that bed so you’ll have to deal with it.

You have to be really independent; of your girl-friends, family, community, etc. a free thinker. You say you’re strong, well your true strength will be tested like no other. And don’t continue the blanket group strategies about: White men, Latino men or Asian men. Get to know the individual man.

So if you don’t re-strategize, let go of old stereotypes, group-thinking, old demons, etc., time will run out. Can’t be on the wrong side of history can stand in the way, the world isn’t going back to 1967.

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KathyG — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:47:38 GMT

I'm a black woman with a serious question for other black women. Why is it that black women can't seem to find a husband but can always find a man to have a child with?

The decision to 'just have a child' not only robs the child of a two parent home, but it also further compromises the pool of eligible black males. By the time many black males reach age 30, they are already financially compromised because of their one or more baby mommas.

There are also health consequences in the form of higher STD rates including HIV.

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Candyce, Tempe, Arizona — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:52:21 GMT

I applaude NBC News and Rahema Ellis for pursuing the general topic of African American women in America. I expect to hear affirmation of some things I already know, learn something new, and even more importantly, I hope this series sheds some light for those who haven't any idea of the depth and breathe of African American women in this country. Rahema, as fellow Simmons graduate, I applaude your approach,courage, and determination in spite of barriers along the way. I am hopeful that this piece will shed some light on the strength of African American women, thus yielding renewed confidence among us of the things we can indeed accomplish in this world. Keep on keepin'on Rahema and NBC.

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Donna K. Benton, Columbia, MD — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:47:14 GMT

Before 1970 or thereabouts, it was normal for men to date and marry less-educated or unemployed women. Now, some women say that men who are less educated or earn less can't deal with a successful woman. If they find a man who can deal with it, they say they don't want to support a man. There are even women who won't have a man who earns less than they do regardless of the amount. They say they need to feel protected and supported (nature's instincts). Protected from what -- wild animals?

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MistaO — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:24:11 GMT

Sorry but, this series will more than likely (and from what I've seen thus far) be another veiled attempt at "helping" Black folk, but the true intent is more nonsense and divisive tactics aimed at furthering, and making certain, that Black men and women DO NOT reclaim our families and love for one another.....At the end of the day, most of this series is just fodder for the two topics "they" want to throw in our faces, the purported surge in interracial marriage, dating etc. and another jab at Rap music (see Black male) to say looky here, these Black men are once again attacking Black womanhood! Yea right, more nonsense like I said....However, it is VERY, VERY refreshing to read many of these posts and see that a great deal of "us" have finally gotten it and are not falling for the okey doak again. See through this nonsense and recognize no one, but us can uplift us and to be honest, you'd have to be an abject idiot to believe that NBC or any other institution in this country actually cares about or wants to see Blacks in a better position. Not gonna happen. If it was, it's been 400+ years of opportunity to do so....But I digress, to boil this all down it's up to Black men and women to take care of our own and quit wining about it. Real simple, we need to divorce ourselves from the divisive thought processes encouraged on us since Slavery. So long as we continue with this undeclared civil war between us (Black men and women) nothing will change for us. These outside groups know it, and play it to their advantage. There is nothing they want to see less than INTACT Black families. Intact families = strong communities. Strong communities = less outside control. This is what most outside groups fear. Due to the lack of intact homes (With FATHERS) in many Black communities, outsiders can operate with impunity and little to know concequence.....Also we need to quit falling for skewed statistics and lies concerning us in general and Black men in particular. Buy the way most Black men are with and love Black women, don't get it twisted.

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Allison Jones — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:26:38 GMT

Danny, The Washington Post ran an entire series on Black men that addressed everything you are complaining about. Look into it. There is nothing wrong with the conversation finally taking a look at black women's lives. It's about time, actually since much of the research and discussions talk about black men as if the issues black men and women are automatically the same because of our race.

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K. Craig-Henderson Wash., DC — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:48:06 GMT

FYI to the Daily Nightly Editor not intedned for posting: I am especially looking forward to Saturday's coverage of African American women and interracial relationships. I am currently conducting a project examining Black women's experiences in interracial relationships. I am also the author of a recently published book examining the issue among African American men (2006, Trasaction Publishers, Rutgers University).
K. Craig-Henderson

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Angela Coleman, Newark, NJ — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:13:03 GMT

Running Sisterhood Agenda for the last 13 years to uplift and empower women and girls of African descent, we know that this targeted population is unique in a lot of ways, historically at risk and traditionally underserved. We must always look at the source of information/misinformation about us as women and as an ethnic group.

I hope that more energy will be focused on solutions and hopefulness than problem-oriented issue analysis. I also believe that women of African descent can use their wisdom and strength for resource-sharing, solidarity and support. Empowering ourselves through sisterhood, self-knowledge, self-development and self-esteem, we can uplift each other and aid in our own life success.

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Annette Streeter, Chicago, IL — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:40:09 GMT

What we don't need as African-American people is another statistic to create separatism between the black woman and the black man based on what society believes or their preconceived statements. We don't need to be analyzed anymore. For instance, if you want to address the successes of black women per say, why don't we add the successes of black women to enhance our black men successes. They go hand in hand. When our black men watch or hear these accusations of their black women be profiled like they are superior to a degree, our black men will find it degrading to their integrity and manhood. Regarding interracial dating among blacks, it is an assignment to eradicate the black race. We are a special unique race chosen by Our Lord Jesus Christ. We need to come together as a special people so we can receive total healing and deliverance that can only come from Our Creator which is Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Lastly, we need to love one another first before we can love another. Love who we are and who made us first. I am blessed to be a strong black woman and I encourage our black men to continue to be strong black men for whatever the right cause is.

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Victoria King, New York, NY — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:17:38 GMT

As a professional African American woman, I am excited that NBC has chosen to highlight this issue. A key component however must address discrimination in the workplace, moreover the historic adversarial relationships which exist between African American womwn and White women.
Our roles are and were quite different. African American women were brought to this country to perform hard labor alongside of men and often worked as domestics for white women who treated them harshly.
Many African American women are discriminated against by White men AND white women who are in positions of power.
Until there is equal opportunity in the workplace the relationships will always be tenuous at best.

African-American women and where they stand

Robert A. Jones III — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:39:03 GMT

The above article speaks to many issues that members of the African American community continue to face. It is long overdue yet appropriate that we now deal with negatives which hinder our growth, development, and overall contributions to this country, our families, ourselves. As an African American male, I as many do of my associates, continue to face extreme and excessive difficulties and hardships that Caucasions and perhaps other individuals do not. While overly credentialed, African American men it appears invisible or or are limited relevance in matters of upward mobility and decision making among the upper tier; ,we simply remain inappreciable! Yes, there are exceptions yet one must even question theri true value of being simple more than "store front." In many cases, they have no authority!

As noted in the accompanying article, black male abscence and deficiencies in the areas of education, economics, parenting and relationships remain blatantly clear; the playing field is far from "level." I encourage black men, black women, and others to READ, READ, READ. Learn MONEY management. Take responsibility and lead your families. If nothing else, DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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A, Bronx, N.Y. — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:01:10 GMT

Those people who keep saying "why are they downplaying AA women" - STFU...like seriously. Ya should be glad someone is giving us the time of day to speak our minds esp. a major network channel during primetime hours. They are trying to put black women in a positive light-and yet ya still complain. They featured well-educated, well dressed, very articulate blackwomen, and yet ya complain. They talked about blackwomen going to college, opening up own their businesses and yet ya complain. They talk about blackwomen who choose not to limit themselves when it comes to dating and yet ya complain. If they had put us in a negative light-ya would have cried foul and racism. And to the woman who said something about the reason why black women have diabetes at a higher rate than other women because of stress from "white society", ummm nooo...sorry, its from eating all that "soul food" and fast food. Blackwomen are considered more overweight and more diabetic than other women-that is mostly in part because of the food! Hold yourself responsible and accountable for being overweight! Kudos to Brian Willams. When they talk about the disparity and yes it is a disparity because there is a huge gap between black women and men attending college. Don't blame NBC for pointiing that out, they are only going by date that has already existed. There isnt a disparity between asian men and women when it comes to college, or white men and white women when it comes to college because both genders within these groups have similar percentages. We still blame white people for what's going on in our communities, well newsflash, a majority of them don't live in our communities-we do, and we continue to hurt, mame and kill one another. We are running away from the fact that we need to really tackle the problems within our community. We need to really get at these young black men before they turn into teenagers and instill in them the power of education, and that rap/athlete fantasy.

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Sean U ,Memphis,TN — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:13:50 GMT

After watching the report on AA women on education, love, and professional life. I generally understand where these women are coming from as far as standards, needs, concerns, security, and love. We all want that plus more. However, over the time being, I hate to say this ,but Black men have fallen off the trail of life. Meaning that, black men have a strongly resistance to change which has a ripple affect on black women and their perception of what a black women's role is in the black community. There are no longer the supports of the husbands, but rather they are in professions such as educators, doctors, famous coaches, and even professional news anchors. When it comes to dating and race, I do approve of interracial dating because love has no color, nor preference. We as individuals have a right to pursue our own love interest without interference of other people opinions. When it comes to the black community, the majority would have a problem with it because its a socially, and economical threat. When something becomes a threat to our norm we (as a community) will do anything to remove such which I think is completely non sense. For example, such reality shows like, "Gotti's Way", and "I Love New York 2" shows black women are in search to a man to fulfill the needs of their heart. On these particular shows, black men are viewed as unemotional, insensitive, and ego driven objects on these particulars shows which makes other races become more attractive because of curiosity. Black women now are seeking love and acceptance outside of the village in order to provide and secure their own happiness. Through education, black women are meeting individuals outside of the black community and having the opportunity take advantage of what the outside group has to offer. As a black man, I see that Black women are finally seeking the heart felt truth about love...It has no boundary and it knows no color.

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P. Smith, San Francisco, CA — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:30:16 GMT

I was informed of this segment over a week ago, but have been unsuccessful in finding the channel it's being shown on. I have DirecTV, can you please inform me of the channel and time of broadcasting for the west coast. Unfortunately, I have already missed two days of this series. Thank you.

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Kim L. — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:31:31 GMT

HOW GREAT THAT AN AFRICAN AMERICAN SPECIAL SERIES AIRES AND THEY DON'T INDICATE THE TIME! OR DID I MISS SOMETHING?

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Naomi, Chandler, AZ — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:14:30 GMT

Sigh... My God, my God.

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JDG, San Diego — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:48:08 GMT

KUDOS to Donna K from Columbia, my girl!

I've been waiting for someone to address this convenient double-speak that I keep reading & hearing about and you did it. Glad it was a woman's perspective.

An excellent point; men were always expected to date below themselves socio-economically. And If you're from the old south you know that these men if they could afford it took care of more than one family and since he could afford it know one cared about infidelity because he was taking care of women & children.

Another double-speak, I'd like a woman to speak out about how Black women have vehemently reacted to Black men that date outside their race and are now embracing it?

How with a straight face can a discussion about Black women inter-racial dating proceed without a word about how they've reacted to it in the past. It's as though there's no history there? The journalist who covered the story and failed to ask that question lacks integrity & credibility.

Every other race men & women have been here, Black women are the last to arrive on the open dating scene and its something new?

How does one rationalize these obviously selfish double standards

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Paula Penn-Nabrit, Westerville, OHIO — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:19:23 GMT

I'm a 53 year-old Black woman with a terminal degree, married for 31 years to a college educated Black man and the mother of our 3 Black sons-all conceived after our marriage. My husband and I are both from intact Black familes, w/college educated parents, grand-parents and great-grandparents. Our sons are 5th generation members of our Apostolic, Pentacostal church. We homeschooled them until college; 1 graduated from Princeton, 1 from Amherst and 1 is still "working on it." I wrote Morning by Morning: How We Home-Schooled Our African-American Sons to the Ivy League (Random House, 2003). Earlier this year Leslie Morgan Steiner (Mommy Wars) and I conducted a national survey, "Women in Black and White" which can be viewed at www.paulapenn-nabrit.com. I currently teach an adult women's Sunday School class of 20-25 Sisters, between the ages of 25 and 80, "The Power of a Virtuous Woman". I share all this as validation for what might be viewed as a harsh assessment of the series in question and much of the commentary about it.

Simply stated, we need to address our own issues as we are well aware of what they are. Further, I think white America deperately needs to take an old-school, Sen. Patrick Moynihan, approach to addressing and dissecting their unique cultural pathologies. The nation is past due for a focus analysis on the rapid decline of white America and the de-valuation of their "cultural capital." As the U.S. dollar continues it's decline in the world currency market ($1,000USD=600 Euros!)along with matching declines in secondary education, employment, manufacturing, and technology, it is apparent that any attention on black folks,male or female, is at best a diversionary tactic to distract white people from the severity of their own situation. While encouraging white people to become more disciplined and self-focused, we should do the same and re-visit what has worked in our communities for generations. And if you don't know-you need to ask somebody who does. The white man, even with the best of intentions, cannot assist us in any meaningful way; they couldn't handle their own stress after the admittedly tragic events of 9/11. We've been dealing relentlessly and successfully with domestic terrorism as long as we've been on this soil, and we've been doing it without having to ask "WWJD"; we've read the Bible, so we already know the answer to that insipid inquiry. In any event, here are some practical steps to consider:

(1) Own your own education and that of your children. The original purpose of free education was to socialize and prepare succeeding generations to take their 'place' in society. If you're Black, you know what that place is-do not accept it! Start preparing your sons & daughters for college with the same intensity schools are preparing them for prison-what do you think "detention" is designed to do?!!If your kids are not yet in college, turn off the TV, get rid of cable,videos & all game systems, go to the library & start reading together as a family-a minimum of 20 minutes a day to start. Ultimately 2 hours of reading is easy to accomplish once constant electronic distractions are removed. An excellent start would be Stephen Biko's essay on Black Consciousness.

(2) Stop eating fast food, restaurant food & food prepared by people you don't know in conditions you don't know are clean. Go to the market, buy some food & cook it! Eating whole, live, home-cooked meals together as a family should be the norm-not the exception. A host of cancers and other diseases can be averted and successfully addressed by a return to balanced meals consumed within the sanctity of a loving and nurturing family.

(3)Strategically monitor yourself, your marriage, and your kids the way you would your career. If you didn't/aren't complaining about what it took to get that degree/job/promotion don't complain about what it takes to make your marriage work. And stop letting just anybody keep your kids-if you owned something as valuable as a Bentley, would you let just anybody drive it? In that same vein, stop letting your kids play & sleep at just anybody's house. You don't know what goes on in other people's homes-or who is in-and-out of them! It's not enough to love our kids; we have to protect them and prepare them-because nobody else will.

(4)Christmas is a religious holiday; stop all this conspicuous consumption & for the love of Jesus stop giving the white man ALL your money!

(5)If you spend more on car payments, rims, clothes, shoes or getting your hair and nails "did" than on education & enrichment for your kids-stop it! And if you're spending all your time working to pay for it-stop that too!

(6) If you think you're too busy, too sophisticated or too educated to get active in a BLACK church, stop kidding yourself; that's where you'll find the response/answer to the statement/question "How I Got Over." And yes,of course I know Black people in church can be annoying, but so can the white man and we put up with that 24/7-and say "Thank You!" The Black church is a virtual depository of functional information. If you don't know how to go to college, how to pay for it, how to select a mate, how to stay married, how to raise kids, how to shop for food, how to stretch a dollar, how to cook a meal, how to clean your house, how to heal your body, or how to live in peace and joy regardless of external circumstances-Go to a Black church and ask somebody(s). I can attest to the willingness of our older brothers and sisters to share their hard-earned wisdom. Of course it won't be as slick as Brian Williams, et al, on NBC, but it will be information you can use.

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Nita, Detroit, MI — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:21:15 GMT

The series is airing during the early evening, (6:30pm EST) nightly news program.

The segments are less than 10 minutes, and while the series is a step in the right direction, the topics and discussions deserve much more time and attention especially positive steps toward solutions.

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Jay. Oakland, Ca — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:36:04 GMT

Is there anywhere I can go; be around Black people and NOT BE PROSELYTIZED to?

Faith is not fact/truth, If you are a true believer, good for you.

But I don't care!

If you need information, search the internet!

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Northlake, IL — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:19:49 GMT

JDG - based upon your previous posts - Black women HAVE No CHOICE but to date interacially. You've made it more than clear that you aren't interested....

Many Black women are fed up with WAITING for Black men to notice them - it isn't because we aren't speaking to you - we do and then Susie walks up and you walk away with her.....

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B L Nunn Antioch TB — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:07:51 GMT

I wanted to say thank for airing this series. NBC has definitely taking a bold approach by speaking on the subject matter.

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Marj Crowal, Hartford, CT — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:16:25 GMT

I applaud NBC for exposing to America the challenges African American women face. Although this series does not offer solution, the mare fact you have highlighted us to mainstream America it helps. No, we are not looking for pity or a handout, just that it is refreshing to include us, we are a part of America but yet we are usually only mention in a negative light.
Thanks, keep it coming. I and thousand other African American women want other ethnic groups to know we are out here, educated, strong hard working women contributing to America!

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dwayne mitchell, memphis,tennessee — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:19:05 GMT

i can see now that i won't be watching NBC none this week. i'm tired of black women always downing black men. that's what this whole segment is going to be about. i am a 34 year old, single, never married, no children, never spent a single secone in jail, professional, homeowning, BLACK MAN that was raised with both of my loving parents in the same household!!! i am so so tired of black women downing us!!! their are thousands of law-biding, hardworking black men like myself, but black women, just like the rest of america only view black men by what is broadcasted over television. hey, NBC, why don't you ask black men like myself what is the problem with black america!
i'm too upset to even finish right about now, so i will just leave it at that!!!!!!!!!!!

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Carol Lane — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:24:56 GMT

I don't pretend to understand the issues of Afro-American women as one because I am not. I do however think as a professional woman (who happens to be of another minority group) that many women, of the lower and lower middle classes do not marry because of the fear that their children will not be covered by health insurance. I think that conservatives who are always boasting of family values do not bother to look at the fact that men and women do not marry so that they can get health care coverage by their states. These conservatives always vote against Universal Healthcare. They don't see the impact on the value of marriage.

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Felecia Starr, Memphis TN — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:25:53 GMT

I would just like to state that I am a 42 yr old African-American woman who has not been married and I have a 23 yr old daughter. I was and still am a single parent. I chose the life of raising my daughter alone. Every woman can not do it, and it was very hard but I did it. I wanted to get married, and came close, but it did not work out. I am proud to say that I am in that percentage who decided to go back to school, I will be graduating in April 08 with my bachelor's in business and then will pursue a master's degree. My daughter, whom I raised alone has earned her bachelor's and is now earning her master's. She is a school teacher and I am so proud of her. She was taught that a man and woman belongs together and should be married when conceiving children. In fact, she has no children and will not live with a man. She is dating and marriage is in the future. My point was just to show that you can raise a child as a single parent, but you have to put that child first and teach that child the morals and values to make them a productive citizen. It does not matter what you have been through as a parent, ensure that your children get the best education and always, always teach them about life and making the best decisions. Lastly, just love them with all your heart as I do. I would die for my daughter even today. Thank you for this story, it is a beautiful thing to see African-American women taking care of their business :-)

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Tanya Brooklyn, NY — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:30:15 GMT

I think this series is important just for the statistics alone. 70% of African-American children growing up in single parent households. This statistic alone should rattle people to the core. Of course, a half hour televison program can only go so deep. So, we have to receive the important information. As a 42 year old black woman I am astounded at how paralyzed and broken black men are. It is stunning. I think a Bill Cosby might do better to speak to his errors and what he has learned on a personal level to right his wrongs. He, Jesse Jackson and Reverend Al Sharpton should speak to their personal flaws and how (and if) they overcame. Currently, we are in a culture that embraces aggressive, violent black men as the norm. There have to be black males that counter that. For this reason alone, Barak Obama is getting my vote. He will serve as this incredible symbol an ambitious, family man who is focused and committed without having to betray or neglect his family. It is all just so sad but understandable. We have gone from slavery, to reconstruction, to the civil rights movement, to apathy and self-destruction. Most of the blacks who have "made it" are consumed with self-promotion and generating capital at the expense of their own. And the media does not challenge this. Oprah's shameless self-promotion. And, the fact that a school that she created allowed for the sexual abuse of black girls. Everything she is supposedly against. If that were truly the case there would have been things in place to make certain this didn't happen. But, the media barely challenged her and kept lauding her as a great human being. Yes, she has done a lot but we are all done a disservice when those we admired are not called to the carpet. Folks we are a long way from getting ourselves on the right track and it is very, very painful.

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Dianne, South Carolina — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:37:04 GMT

In watching these series on the AA women...have we stop to say that some of the same issues that we face as AA women is some of the same for White women. Do a series on White women and listen to what is said. Being an AA woman I have raised two adult children on my own and is very proud of it. I have maintained a wholesome job in caring for the welfare of my children. I am a divorcee of 23 years and finding a mate is not one top agenda items. I think that AA women are strong in their beliefs and their values. What about the values of White women and molestation of children. What is being said about that. We can not leave the scene without bringing morals and values into play. As MSNBC explores other topics will they be addressing other women of other cultures?

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Misty, SW Florida — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:42:22 GMT

I was surprised to see your segment on African American Woman because we usually don't have a platform. I watched the 11/28/07 segment, and I could identify with each of the woman in the piece.

I am twice divorced, my first marriage was to a white man and my second to a black man. I didn't really see a difference in them, they were both male. For the last 17 years I've been involved with a married man and raise our child in a single parent home during the week and a two parent home on the weekends. It somehow works for us, although I am far from happy with the situation, my daughter is happy; and that is all that matters in the long run. I also raise two other children that are not mine, but need a home and I love them.

I am a college graduate, a professional woman who lives and works in the Black community. I work with adults who need to improve themselves and see a lot of Black men who have given up hope. Many don't have a High School diploma...so they don't/can't work at a real job. Many work "on the street" then end up in jail; then when released, repeat the behavior within a year.

So how is a Black woman to find and keep a man? If you date outside your race, you become an oddity. If you date within your race and want the "finer" things in life (education for your children, be assertive for what you know is right or be savvy with finances) you become a BITCH to the Black man, he doesn't want to be in your circle anymore; you become a meal ticket, or even worse, you become comfortable.

I don't know the answer, but I'm glad there is an intelligent conversation taking place. Sometimes it's hard to talk to your peers about what has become your life, we're all scared. I applaud the woman who have been interviewed, none of us are perfect and we all have the similar problems finding and keeping a relationship.

I'm scared for the future for my daughter as well as all girls. It has no longer become just a Black womans problem. As more immigrants come into the country, the balance shifts slightly to include that population. Just watch your local news, no longer do Black men litter the screen for crimes...they now share that pedestal with (mostly) Hispanics. The numbers indicate that the Hispanic population is growing by leaps in our nation, so theres another group of men that will be uneducated with a record. It doesn't look good for the women of any race.

Thanks for listening,

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TAMMIE,GRAND RAPIDS,MICHIGAN — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:42:32 GMT

I WATCHED TONIGHTS SHOW ABOUT THE THREE WOMAN, I WAS MARRIED TWICE AND NEITHER MARRIAGE WORKED OUT. I WAS TOLD HOW MUCH THEY LOVED ME,WOULD TAKE CARE OF ME AND ONCES MARRIED EVERYTHING CHANGED. A MARRIAGE IS MADE OF TWO PEOPLE AND 100% FROM BOTH PEOPLE. WHEN THAT DOESN'T WORK IT'S ALWAYS THE WOMAN FAULT THAT THE MARRIAGE DIDN'T WORK. I FEEL WE HAVE A LOT OF WEAK BROTHERS AND IT'S SETTING A BAD EXAMPLE FOR THERE CHILDREN AND CHILDREN OF THE FUTURE. THEY WANT TO THEN WALK AWAY WITH EVERYTHING AND NOT SHARE WITH THERE WIFE'S AND CHILDREN. I FEEL THAT IF YOU HAVE ENTERED A WOMAN'S LIFE, SHE GIVES YOU LIFE WITH HAVING HER TUBES REVERSED TO HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN THAT YOU BOTH WANTED, THEN JUST UP AND SAY YOU WANT A DIVORCE AFTER BEING WITH THIS WOMAN FOR 13 YEARS, 6 OF THOSE YEARS YOU ARE MARRIED. THE WOMAN HAS NEVER CHEATED NOR DOES SHE DRINK, OR SMOKE, OR HANG OUT IN THE STREET. SHE AT HOME,SCHOOL WITH THE CHILDREN OR CHURCH OR DOCTOR APPOINTMENT, OR GROCER'S STORE OR SCHOOL ACTIVITIES. WHAT MORE CAN A MAN ASK FOR. JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT SMOKING IN THE HOUSE ANYMORE BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE ASTHMA AS WELL AS HE DOES. I DIDN'T WANT TO SMELL ALCOHOL ANYMORE AFTER I HAD OUR DAUGHTER BECAUSE IT MADE ME SICK. WHO WOULD WANT TO SLEEP WITH THERE MATE SMELLING LIKE ALCOHOL OR EVENING WAKING UP SMELLING ALCOHOL ON THERE MATE, HE THEN WANTS ME TO MAKE LOVE AND KISS HIM, IT JUST MAKES ME EVEN SICKER. I'M DIVORCED KNOW FROM HIM IT WAS VERY HARD AT FIRST. BUT I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGHT FOR WHAT I AND MY CHILDREN ARE INTITLED TOO. I WAS DISABLED TO WORK IN 2002 SO I RECEIVE MY SSDI DISABILITY EVERY MONTH. BUT MY HUSBAND HAS TAKING CARE OF ME AND THE CHILDREN. HE PAID THE MORTGAGE AND ALL THE BILLS,INSURANCES,CAR NOTES, EVERYTHING, BECAUSE HE MAKES $76,000 A YEAR. TO MY 18,000 A YEAR AND HE FEELS HE DOESN'T OWN ME ANYTHING. BUT JUSTED THE CHILD-SUPPORT A MONTH $1225.00, HE HAS HIDE 401K MONEY HE HAS LET ARE HOME GO BACK INTO FORECLOSURE. HE HAS STOP PAYING LIFE INSURANCES, CAR INSURANCES, MEDICAL INSURANCES, I HAVE NERVE DAMAGE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, I CAN'T WORK ANYWAY BECAUSE I HAVE NARCOLEPSY.

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J.V. Womack, Durham, NC — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:43:41 GMT

Ladies and Gentlemen:

I watched the NBC "much-hyped" part 1 of the series on African-American women. In a word--it "sucked." It came at the end of Nightly News. Here we go again at the back of the bus. Rehema Ellis and NBC recapped what I already knew. Yes, we outnumber men in college. Yes. Some of us even graduate from universities with mega reputations. Many of us have started our own businesses. So, my question is--SO WHAT? I watched again tonight--hopeful. And, again I was disappointed. Here is my take. NBC is losing viewers. Every time media outfits start to “tank” they run to blacks to prop them up. Did we watch? I received eight e-mails telling me to tune in. As the saying goes—“stick me with a fork…I am done!”

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carrie salone 3304 wynhdam park lane, Decatur, Ga 30034 — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:50:33 GMT

i would like to purchase the video series. how can i do this?

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john smith — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:54:37 GMT

I think the segment on NBC was good, but there are good, educated Black men out there. I am 31, working on a second master's, and employed. Right now, I am not making much money, but I have high ambitions and goals to do better. Black men and women need to work together to help each other in these trying times. I say to women who are single, keep the faith, and maybe you will have to date younger Black men who are stable.

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WFR — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:59:11 GMT

I am glad to see that issues concerning African American women in this country are being brought to the forefront.

However, I saw the segment on Wednesday night about relationships but was disappointed to see that African American women who represent the 'true single' of never married with no children were not mentioned in this piece. Only women who had been married and divorced or women who had children out of wedlock were represented. I believe this segment did not portray all of the groups of African American women out there when it comes to talking about relationships.

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Sheba Major, Upper Marlboro, MD — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:03:03 GMT

Everyone who cares about the issues that come with being an African American female in America certainly knows the matters run deeper and more multi-faceted than can be fully outlined in a three minute news piece. That being said, hats off to NBC nightly news and Rehema Ellis for this series in that it highlights and brings awareness to many in American who do not know, do not care, and/or do not care to know of such issues facing a group of their fellow Americans. As a group, African American women have traditionally been treated as invisible by the masses in America, except for the extraordinarily good or bad. Let us focus on the good...wider awareness brings wider discussion and subsequently, change; but it takes everyone who cares doing what they can where ever they are.

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Ruthie Ann Arbor Michigan — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:05:18 GMT

I am writing in response to your show. I am a single black female that has raised two daughters alone. I use to be very bitter about this until I sat down and looked at the man I chose to be with. I could have had a educated and employed black men, but I chose the gangster. I do not want to put down black men because all of them are not bad. I made the bad choice. I wish you would highlight the black fathers that are not in their childs home, but does his share. I had a good father that was not in my home, but I chose the wrong man. My daughters are grown and both are educated and I am proud of them, I am single because I was hurt so bad during the relationship, I can not bring myself to trust any man, black, white,etc. So please give our young black women hope by letting them hear our stories, and maybe they will not make the same mistake.

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Terri Bullard, Lakewood, CO — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:06:06 GMT

Re: The family... There may be negative issues with being a single parent, this is true regardless of race. However in my experiance the men coming from black singel parent families seem have the most love and respect for their mothers. Not that other men don't, but it seems to be the norm for black men raised by single mothers. You must be doing something right! :)

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Sheila Cowan, De Soto, MO — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:15:51 GMT

I am a professional African-American woman. After over thirty years of marriage, I am separated from my husband. I live in a small,predominantly white town. How will I ever find someone to date?
I wish that you would discuss the problem of finding men to date. There do not seem to be enough AA men to go around.

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Deborah Jamison Tampa Florida — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:21:55 GMT

I found Ellis's report on Wed Nov 28th muddled and confused. What was the point? That black women are too educated to find mates? When did education disqualify someone from acceptability as a mate? Does the same apply to other races of women? Does that mean black men are incapable of appreciating education? What does that say about them? I was especially confused by Lisa, someone who lived with a man for 14 years, then decided to marry him. What segment of black womanhood does she represent in your series? What about the millions of black women not described as professional -- the working class, or working poor class -- who by far outnumber the professional class. They were not even mentioned in your series. Don't they count? Why is the focus restricted to professional black women? Would it be restricted this way if the series focused on another race of women? I doubt it. Your piece lacks real relevance. You should be discussing quite frankly the gut issues that black women of all demographics discuss: the abandonment of our race by black men for other races, drugs, gay lifestyles, crime, etc; the disrespect directed toward black women in the general culture despite the fact that most black women lead exemplary lives and perform small miracles in their homes and jobs where they lack support both from their men and society at large; the enormous difficulty of raising healthy, educated, balanced children in a society that does not value the women or their children, and the scorn heaped upon them when they fail; the stereotypes of welfare queens and promiscuity that we cannot disengage. These descriptions do not apply exclusively to professional black women, as your piece seemed to suggest, and you do a grave disservice to all black women by presenting it that way.
As a black woman I also resent the idea that black women do not deserve a discussion purely focused on them -- that complaints were received about your series not discussing black men. It seems to me that millions of reams of discussion, books, movies, documentaries, symposia, special schools, mentors, tutors, have been devoted to the plight of the black man in America. I'd like to posit the idea that the black woman, the back-bone of the race, the provider of home, culture, birthing, nurturing, mothering, fathering, financial support, religious support does indeed deserve her own discussion IRRESPECTIVE of black men. I hope your series will delve with greater courage and without fear of offending others into the REAL issues that face black women, issues that threaten her survival and survival of the race.

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Negro With Attitudes — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:22:47 GMT

Black women have been remarked as the white mans
slave property.
Black men will now avoid Black women altogether as a
result of them making statements that their men aren't 'good' enough!
BLACK LOVE IS DEAD!

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Julian Dotson, Phoenix, AZ — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:54:17 GMT

The information as presented is one sided. That is just human nature. The problem is that it portrays the black male as superfluous in many ways. The women highlighted speak about their success and achievements not only without a male presence, but in many ways despite it. While that may or may not be what is intended, that is a part of the perception.

As a black male, that is a little insulting. Not because it is slanderous, but because it is all too true of the persona that is the black male. This ideal (or lack thereof) is what is seen by black women before they see anything else. In media, in our communities, this is what is portrayed as being the future for black men.

Tonight, one segment focused on the single parent environment. One of the women of the panel commented that the coming generation of African Americans would not know what a two parent household was. As one of the millions raised by a single mother, I have to say…So what’s your point? I was raised by a strong black woman. She provided, educated, and disciplined. While I understand that the social and economic pressures of American life stress a two parent household, I know that parenting successfully in no way requires it.

The black woman is alone in many ways. While that may be seen as a problem, that solitude forces them to find strength in other ways; in each other, in their children, religion, profession…If the future of African Americans rests with our mothers and daughters, I honestly hope that they do not have to do it alone. However, I am confident that they will succeed regardless of the influence of black males.

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Melinda Lubben, St. Croix Falls, Wisconsin — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:55:07 GMT

I applaud all African American single women trying to raise their children without a father present. I am an White American woman who has been a single mother (even though I have re-married I still feel as though I am a single mother as my children are not my spouse's). I have a difficult enough task without having to deal with discrimination. I think we all do our level best and the male population, whether white or black, needs to celebrate what we as mothers do. Again, I applaud all you women who are trying to make yourselves the best you can be in order to show your daughters and sons that education and hard work can give you the self-esteem and strength that you need to fight against all that life may bring in the aspect of disappointment, bigotry, racism, unkindness, etc. by others. Teach your children to believe in themselves, trust their gut, know what's right and what's wrong, and to do what's right in all circumstances. Things may not go the way they want, but if they do what they believe in their heart is the right thing, then they have no regrets. May you all find the strength to live your life as best as you can and to show your children how to do the same.

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S. Cross, Single Mothers of Color, Denver, CO — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:01:42 GMT

I applaud Rehema Ellis for approaching NBC and being able to share the journey of the African American women in society today. Whether we all agree or disagree with the topics, discussion, etc., we are invisible. It has been long overdue to have this type showcase. The dialogue must continue - as we are a population of women continuing to understand our path, purpose, and place.

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Hope, Chicago, IL — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:06:43 GMT

You know, I find it extremely hard to believe any "statistics". Data can be skewed to give the results that are desired. The so-called "data" on rates of black this and that, makes me wanna holla! I know there is some truth there, somewhere, but it's deeply buried.

Why haven't I (who am married to a wonderful college educated black man that grew up in a two parent household)or any of my "black and married with children friends" have ever been surveyed? It doesn't make for good ratings, I guess.

Census? Where's my data?

I was excited to learn about the series but am disappointed at its superficial nature. I'll keep watching hoping to learn something. Thanks for the effort.

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Gigi G. Richmond, Virginia — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:07:50 GMT

It's great to see a week long series about AAs. Looking forward to seeing other similiar programs. Keep it up NBC.

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M. Heastie, Philadelphia, PA — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:22:28 GMT

I for one am thrilled to see a national news network paying attention to the issues black women face in American society. I think its a shame there's only one african-American female correspondant to report on the series however. I also wonder how many African-American producers there are to work on these stories behind the scenes. The nature of TV News is that it forces stories to be brief, which of course means only two or three aspects of a story can be told. Perhaps there could be a Dateline special so that the pros and cons could be exmained on a few topics more throughly. These stories would not seem so rare, if there was more diversity in the newsroom to raise the ideas more often.

It might have been good to be a piece depicting a day in the life of the average black woman in America, examining age, occupation, wages, debt, living conditions, how many children, married or not etc.

Since roughly 35% of all African-Americans are college educated in th US. I bet the average black woman in America is not a professional.

On a whole I give the series an A- so far. I have enjoyed the digital correspondant pieces on the web as well. (I wish a more successful business woman had been profiled in the first piece on Monday and I was surprised that all the health disparities for African-American women obesity, aids, diabetes, heart disease, and infant mortality were not handled in a single piece.)

Bravo Brian Williams our Philadelphia son continues to show he's a real person who cares about real people's issues.

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CJ, Montgomery, AL — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:31:15 GMT

I have had the great fortune this week to be home to watch NBC Nightly News. I was looking forward to seeing this series and the information presented, as I am a single, professional, African American woman. However, I was disturbed as I watched (and subsequently re-watched on the web) Wednesday’s installment reported by Raheema Ellis.

The report began with four women who I assumed were like me, but I quickly found they were not. These women had either been married and were divorced or were in long term committed relationships that in some states could have been considered common law marriages. I wish that there had been representation for those of us who have not had the benefit of long term relationships or marriage. Those of us who have been ostracized by African American men because of our educational and/or professional backgrounds. Those of us who are told that we can’t find a man because we are too independent and self-sufficient (which, ironically, is what we have had to become because we have only been able to rely on ourselves). This is the type of woman that needed to be represented in this piece. This is the type of woman that makes up the 42.4% of African American women who have never been married. This is the type of woman that America needs acknowledge. Not that there is some solution as this problem is a result of the epidemic of the undereducated, underemployed, under-parented, over-incarcerated African American male. It just would have been nice to be acknowledged.

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Denise L. Slater — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:37:57 GMT

Music is a reflection of the soul. Music comes from god and the Universe. Hip Hop is an expression of people and where the world is. In Hip Hop-whether degrading or not, it is an expression of the soul. It is neither good or bad. Degrading lyrics in Hip Hop, I believe do take root in us and send an energy into the Universe that vibrates and bounces back and fourth, until it starts to seep into our vocabulary and then into our hearts and ultimatlely into our souls. Younger children are more vulnerable, beause of how impressionable they are. I am a thirty six year old woman who remembers the beginning of Hip Hop and the world in which I lived in at the time. Today, things are moving much faster and children are exposed to more things that were once for adult eyes only. Today the TV and the music are raising our children. Yes, Hip Hop affects the relationships of not just black men and women, but the relationships of all people. Of course black men and women suffer together first, because we are close to each other, but like I said earlier, music which includes all music, derives from the soul. It is an indication of where the heart and soul is. It would then be easy to say that the soul of those who use degrading lyrics is a soul that has seen degrading things. Degrading is not limited to just women. Hip Hop is a reflection of where their lives have been. Houndinf these individuals to change the lyrics is like telling an english speaking person to speak spanish when he was only raised to speak english. A lot of us think that Hip Hop is over there, and that is black peoples music. It is all of our music, because it affects us all directly and inderectly. Electricity does not discriminate and that is how we are all connected. Hip Hop is a reflection of what is going on in the world. Just remember that the degrading lyrics that affect women in a negative way, is no different than the suburban father who beats his wife. We are all the walking wounded. Running off and living in the hills and building gated communities is just running away from the problem. It may not affect you now, but it will. Hip Hop in my opinion is the truest expression of people who are hurting. Whether they know it or not, they are hurting and "rapping" about it, is the starting point to healing. The music is a result of their realities. So if this is the case, what are we doing to help those who are lost. This is a universal problem and Universal attention is needed. If you are not a believer, just look around at what is going on in the World. Hip Hop music is a warning sign of a volcano that will eventually erupt. The violence and drugs and indescent sexual behavior in the workd is not just occurring in Hip Hop, but is occurring throughout the world. In some instances the girt is just wrapped a little different. Yes I called it a gift. Chaos also surfaces when healing is needed. Healing will come, but at whose expense. It is only a matter of time of when it will affedct you.

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Clark, Las Vegas — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:42:17 GMT

I applaud Brian Williams and Rehema Ellis for taking the initiative to broadcast the imperative issues regarding African American women. The experiences that my sisters and I continue to struggle with have only made us stronger with a will to exceed and survive. I am a 37 year old single, childless, female that realizes my career is the forefront of my life and my future. I am a current PhD student and a home owner. African American women must realize that the traditional African American family may not happen for all of us. Statistically there are not enough professional, ethical, spirital, and monogamous African American men for African American women that possess the same qualities. I have come to this realization. However, increasing my spirituality, education, and finances are my main concerns. Many African American women are fed up with degrading rap lyrics and images from African Amercian men. I would like to ask all African American men and women that defend rap music the folloiwng: "Name another race of men that proudly degrades their women of the same race. Irregardless of the particular women rappers "rap" about they are still African American women. The KKK and Nazis do not degrade the women in their communities the way African American rappers do. How can people continue to buy and support the lyrics. I call it lyrics because it is not hip-hop. In closing, Many African American women are dating and marrying men of all races that love them. Matrimony is a blessing from God. Far too many sisters live with men for years and have their children and they still do not marry them. This needs to stop! Please let this show topic be continous and not just for 1 week. Rehema Ellis, if you are looking for any interviews on the west coast please contact me I would love to participate.
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BNS, Laurel, MD — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:58:02 GMT

I have watched the first three installments of the Nightly News special report on AA women. I can't remember the last time I saw serious journalism about AA women on national television, even for 3 minutes. I am glad NBC is highlighting our women this week. I hope it brings about great discussions. Black women deserve more positive attention because we have to fight negative stereotypes and images daily; and no that should not come at the expense of America's negative view of the Black Man. There are some many issues that won't be discussed or mentioned, but it is our job to bring them to the forefront. I especially hope to witness Black women as a strong force in this 2008 Presidential Election. I believe we have more power than we utilize. It is time we show it.

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Ron, Boston, MA — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:07:09 GMT

With the crisis in the African American family and the proponderance of female headed households and children who do not have the benefit of a father growing up should polygamy be accepted as a strategy for supporting family. I am an African American father, at 25 I married an African American woman with three sons, and we grew our family by having 2 additional children. Many of my wife's friends are single female parents. Why should we not join our households for stronger families and great economic efficiency?

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Celeste Thompson, Virginia Beach, Virginia — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:08:28 GMT

Dear NBC News --
I commend you on your series addressing issues specific to African-American women. Finally, someone is paying attention to us. Hopefully you know you are only scratching the surface of our issues and challenges today. I look forward to future stories, perhaps one month next time?!
As always, Rehema Ellis - fabulous. And, Brian Williams - the best to be anchoring this story.

Thanks again.

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Pearl Jr. Van Nuys, California — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:08:37 GMT

As a trailblazer and founder of the Black Women's Movement, plus someone who has dedicated her life to the upward mobility of the Black race, I feel so left out because I was not contacted to be a part of this series. I've accomplished so very much as a nationally known activist and author with over 150 radio interviews under my belt. I feel the major reason why Blacks as well as Whites fear my retort is because I specialize in short concise phrases that will act as a paradigm shift in the minds of Blacks that will immediately wake most of up to the brutal trickery that deems us harm.

I thank Bryan Williams and the Black female co-host for doing this special and I, with the assistance of Black women, with much action, can change this entire situation around and return back to the days when Black men loved Black women. You can hear all the love when listening to Black music of the 50's and 60's especially--My goodness, Black men loved the ground Black women walked on. The main change that has occurred is the massive influences of Black self-hatred disguised as integration.

Pearl Jr.
Author, Black Women Need Love, Too!

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Pearl Jr. Van Nuys, California — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:09:06 GMT

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A.L., Tampa, FL — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:14:26 GMT

Bravo NBC! Keep up the great job Ms. Ellis! The job of news organizations is NOT to solve problems, but to report on the issues. That is exactly what they are doing.

We are always so concerned about how we as African Americans are going to look to "outsiders" that we oftentimes miss the point. I believe in this case, the point is simple--African American Women impact this world! The impact may be economically (we're starting businesses), socially (we're single, single parents, interacially involved) or medically (we're dying of diseases faster and something must be done). Those are just the facts, do with them as you will. Take a stand if you don't like what you see or hear, but stop with the conspiracy theory.

No other news organization has even attempted to do a story of this magnitude. We should applaud NBC for bringing the plight of African American women to mainstream America. Many of our White brothers and sisters don't understand where we've been or what we've endured to get here.

Listen, we have a history filled with injustice, abuse, mistreatment, and many other forms of racial defilement. Let's just use this as a conduit back into our communities to see if we can fix some of our issues. No report will be perfect because in order for there to be perfection you have to tell both sides of the story, the history, and offer a solution. Again, that's not their job. But it is ours...let's rise to the challenge.

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Nat, MD — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:30:21 GMT

I just watched the Web-exclusive report, "Love, in black and white" and I'm a little confused about something one of the women said. The woman featured, Jacquetta (sp?), with her husband said something to the effect of "dating someone specifically for their skin color is just as bad as not dating them for that same reason." But the report also mentioned that she posted an ad on Craigslist looking specifically for a white man. Help me here...where does this add up?

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Patrick, Atlanta, GA — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:51:55 GMT

I would like to thank NBC for this series. However, my blood boils every time I see or read the news about the "plight" of black men in this country and the impact on our community. The ugly facts are well known. We hear and see it all the time. What I would like to see in "balanced" journalism is a series on successful black men.

I'm a 41 year old black man with two graduate degrees and a successful corporate career. I have never felt more invisible in my own country than I do now. There are successful, hard working black men who are good fathers and husbands. But if I chose to believe everything that both the black press and white press tells me, I would believe that the only successful black men in this country are named Eddie Murphy, Denzel Washington, Bill Cosby, and Michael Jordan.

O.K., I have to admit that black men of my generation have not made the types of socio-economic gains that our sisters have made. But can we get some positive press for being good providers and building successful lives? I've grown accustomed to being invisible in the larger society. Now I fear that I'm becoming invisible in my own community.

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Old Soldier — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:57:35 GMT

No one can fault American women of all races for achieving all the success they can possibly achieve in a free and just society. Successful women in America certainly deserve all the praise they have earned. But what is always missing in this story is the side that has far too long been "off limits".

The growing gender gap in a very wide range of human endeavors is definitely NOT limited to AAs in America. Kids don't raise themselves, and loser "adults", including loser "men", don't magically appear on the scene. With American women long overwhelmingly dominant in all social science, education and health fields dealing with every aspect of children from before birth to after college, just who is to blame for the blatantly ever widening gaps between men and women in the United States? Even fathers can't come close to the unquestioned authority of mothers on matters relating to the raising of children in our society. Fathers are just expected to pay the bills; women are the "professionals" who "know best".

Most objective observers would conclude that America's women, moving steadily upward in both stature and power for decades, have been doing an excellent job of "raising" the "men" their favored daughters will just love to hate. Eventually, of course, that feeling inevitably will be reciprocated. What was "forgotten" long ago in this country is the simple fact that ALL rights come with corresponding responsibilities, of equal if not greater importance. It is NOT all about rights.

Here's just one example. First note that we now provide college educations to nearly twice as many women as men (mostly in liberal arts and the social sciences). Then note that the much-touted "advanced placement programs" in our pre-college school systems are overwhelmingly populated by girls studying liberal arts and social sciences heavily favored by girls, under teaching methods that have strongly favored girls since the 1970s. Adjustments in our schools that originally were made to correct rather small gender imbalances have been allowed to continue apace decades after their intention was fully achieved, so that today the imbalances are truly staggering -- in the opposite direction. The original adjustments happened so long ago that everyone now thinks the status quo is "normal".

American women have for decades used Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to myopically apply quota systems to sports programs in order to restrict men trying to use athletics to get a college education. But Title IX makes no mention of sports. Title IX properly prohibits gender discrimination in ANY education program and activity receiving federal funds - at any level.

Men should have started using Title IX during the 1980s when the gender gap on college campuses first became evident, and tracked the reasons for that imbalance backward, but men feared (and still do) being labeled "sexist bigots". Men could only hope that women would eventually assume the responsibility that was theirs and ensure that reasonable balances were maintained at all levels. Women have not done so, and instead still spout the same "victim" dogma that their grandmothers used so effectively a half century ago. College student bodies and school AP programs that are over 55% female, not to mention the many that are over 65% female, have long been begging fertile ground for class action law suits - if women and/or the federal government did not take the actions required by federal anti-discrimination laws. Women long ago got the courts to properly decide that it is not possible to blame the victim for discrimination, but apparently never considered that the victim could one day be male. And women are now the dominant voting block no politician ever wants to alienate.

Almost half of women college graduates today will be unable to find comparably educated mates and will thus be the default breadwinner responsible for supporting the family - if they opt to get married and/or have children (their choice). About 55% of American women between 18 and 48 have never been married, but still enjoy all the programs, benefits and deference that were intended for a far different society under a very different social bargain, including the really huge subsidy they receive from men in Social Security and Medicare premiums. We still have programs designed to get women turning 18 to register to vote (a right), but programs for men turning 18 to register for the draft (a responsibility), and this very critical gender difference inexplicably is still evident everywhere. Native-born American women already are having children at less than half the rate (2.2) necessary for our society to survive just to see the end of this century, so we have to open our borders as wide as possible to uncontrolled Third World immigration just to stay alive and viable. Just because no one is allowed to discuss such things doesn't change the hard truths one bit.

An objective observer over the age of 60 can easily list dozens of similar examples in a historical and logical context for American society - a context that has not been perverted by politically correct censorship for over two generations. American women have been in our society's driver seat for over a quarter of century now, but are still expecting men to continue carrying the responsibility for fixing society's problems. It doesn't work that way. In a democracy, when you dominate, when you are the Top Dog, the responsibility is yours. You can either embrace that responsibility, or you can allow your society to self-destruct. You can't blame others for problems which you created and then allowed, forced, to snowball. The responsibility of leadership is really hard stuff, and blame-shifting just doesn't cut it. Trying to turn boys into girls doesn't work, either, regardless of whether it's done with abject neglect, mind-altering drugs, expulsion threats or counter-productive teaching methods. Perhaps when a white woman becomes our Commander-in-Chief, American men can finally start demanding a few "corrections" that are already a generation overdue. My own prediction is that her "honeymoon" will be short indeed. Despite all the phony diversionary politics, the issue of the day is NOT race; it has long been gender.

P.S. As a 65 year old life-long professional Regular Army soldier originally educated in the social sciences (sociology and psychology) at excellent universities, I can't stand most American "men" under the age of 45 anymore, either. But I didn't create them. Every time I hear another woman whining on TV these days, I look at my struggling grandsons, and turn off the TV. But I am also ashamed because I've been doing nothing but listening, and bowing, to whining American women for over a half century. Like ALL American men, I never demanded ANYTHING from our women; I always treated them like daddy's little girl, and THAT was a Big Mistake. So to all American women, and especially to our enormously powerful white women, I now say: "You have always been the one with all the choices. It's YOUR "system" now. YOU fix it. I can't even defend it anymore."

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A Hill — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:11:51 GMT

It's always positive to be able to see stories about the status of African-Americans in the United States. All is not doom and gloom as is always pictured and described. I admire the accomplishments of African American women. I only hope the media also takes a more positive viewpoint about African American males. I hear the same negative statistics I heard some 35 years ago regarding the slim chances African American males have in being successful in this country. We need more stories that are positive about African American males. As the first in my family to graduate from college and have a relatively successful career, I do not believe my success is as unique as the media depicts. So, I again applaud the attempt to address the experiences of African American women. Having raised two sons, and still helping them with getting through college, I would like to see a similar series about African American, but with a slant on the positive more than the negative.

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A Hill, Indianapolis, IN — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:12:29 GMT

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Jay Smith, Shreveport, LA — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:14:08 GMT

You know I am STILL waiting for SOMEONE in network news to do ANY story at all about the decline of White society. Whites lead the nation in teens addicted to crystal meth, DUI's, child abduction, child molestation, and the phenomenon of serial killers. If doing pieces like this one make the white producers at NBC feel better about their situation then denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

I also wonder will this week long story be talking about Black men like myself: college educated, no kids and ambitious? For some reason I doubt it. We have PLENTY of perfectly healthy relationships in the Black community. Black men who ADORE Black women and have happy families. Perhaps Rehema should give us a call since apparently they couldn't find any.

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Chris, Hartford, Connecticut — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:22:49 GMT

The lives of African-American women cannot be accurately assessed by a series of snippets. I find this "series" not only disappointing but insulting.

First, It is a myth that African-American women are applauded for having a good education, good manners, poise, and professionalism. It is clear, for example, that I am living in the same world my mother, grandmother, and great grand mother lived in. I am often greeted with anger, jealousy, resentment, and disdain BECAUSE I have an education, BECAUSE I choose to carry myself in a professional manner, BECAUSE I write and speak well. Moreover, the anger and resentment in which I speak comes from the good old white boy network, the good old white girl network, AND from African-Americans alike!

If I suffered from obesity, low self-esteem, high blood pressure, diabetes, and heart disease, people would love me! If I walked around bowed and broken, filing and smiling, people would love me. If I presented myself like a carpet everyone could walk on, people would me. However, I don't fit into any of the categories listed above. I spend more time pulling knives out of my back than doing anything else. I had no idea, for example, that graduating from an Ivy League school was equivalent to receiving several tickets to hell and back. If it were not for the grace of God, I would have bled to death spiritually and emotionally a long time ago. Many African-American women try a hand at their own businesses because they are sick and tired of the many abuses they suffer silently on the job.

With respect to relationships, I am sick and tired of African-American women being dishonest or trying to sugarcoat what REALLY goes on in their relationships with African-American men. The number one killer in the African-American community is SILENCE.

Since most women aren't brave enough to speak honestly on the subject, allow me to do the honors. (And I don't want to hear from those BRAINWASHED African-American women who think it's wrong to be a slave to a white man but are more than willing to be a slave to a black man! Bondage is bondage, period.)

1. For the most part, African-American men do not honor or respect African-American women.
2. African-American men have no problem using African-American women for the moment (especially when they're down and out), chewing them up, and spitting them out like a piece of gum with no sugar.
3. College degree or not, African-American women are out there on their own. Even an educated African-American man does not want to be around an educated African-American woman. This is true even they SEEM to be O.K. with it).
4. By the time you eliminate the men who are in jail, the parasites who are with you for the meantime, the men who are gay and/or on the down low, and those who are just plain demonic, misogynisic, or trifling, many African-American women have no choice but find relationships elsewhere.
5. Many African-American men (whether they admit it or not) think no differently from the man who "has his foot on our neck". African-American women are not supposed to want anything, expect anything, or strive for anything.
6. Too many African-American men refuse to hold themselves accountable for their own actions and would rather put the blame on slavery or the white man. For example, if you decide to buy a BOSE home system instead paying your bills, it's not that you didn't have the money, you were simply a poor steward over your finances. If an African-American woman is supportive of her man, treats him well, sticks with him through thick and thin and he decides to turn around, spit in her face, stab her in the back or treat her like dirt, that is HIS choice not the white man's. Too many African-American men think they are doing their women a favor by being with them and treat them accordingly.
7. There is a difference between CAN'T and WON'T. Many African-American men CAN be supportive of African-American women but WON'T. (Just try to start a business ladies. Most of the money and moral support will come from strangers!)

Finally, I don't believe that running to the BLACK church is the answer. We have too many buildings in the African-American community and not enough houses of God. ( I apoligize ahead of time to my holier- than-thou sisters) I meet more Christians out side of the church than in it. Too many of us would rather style and profile or stay in denial than deal with the issues of HIV/AIDS, men on the down low (IN CHURCH!), adultery, domestic violence, child abuse, and demons on the pulpit and deacon board. Until we are willing to address the ills within our own community, we will never be healed and we will never be free.

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Darlene King, Philadelphia, PA — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:50:06 GMT

Thank you for the series. I only hope for an opportunity to appeal to all mother's of black males to encourage their sons to end the cycle of black children being raised without their fathers. My hope is that mother's will do all they can to demand their sons to take responsibility for their actions. I know ultimately it is the males choice. But mother's we have a lot of power and influence over our sons. Remind them of what it felt like not to have a father present, then just ask in our motherly way, Son don't let your child suffer the same fate.

Father's, please stop teaching your sons that it's OK to have a woman on the side. They are bringing home a side of HIV/AIDS. It's time to end this cycle also. It is killing us, literally! There are many strong, faithful men. Help them to see some of those examples.

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Moni D., Maryland — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:57:13 GMT

As a "college educated professional black woman", I feel that we are no longer desired by our black men. Yes, the series reflects the trend of black women dating white men, but it was presented as a response to the "shortage" of "good black men". However, I feel that there are good men out there, but it appears that they are drawn to individuals outside of our race. Amazingly, I have had professional black men state openly to me that they are not seeking a black woman. Supposedly, it is "easier" with women of other races. I was informed also that black women are perceived as being both difficult and angry. Why shouldn't we be angry? We can be successful in every aspect of our lives, but we cannot find love and companionship from our own men. In the future, I would like to see a complement to this series, which would focus on the challenges of black men. This may provide a better understanding of the division that has been created within our race.

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Vickie Lee — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:16:23 GMT

I recently sent a comment and I incorrectly spelled the name of Ms. Shiavocampo. Please accept my apology for this error!

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Lydia Marie, TX — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:37:57 GMT

I really enjoyed listening to the four women speaking on dating interracially. I am a white woman (Canadian and Irish) dating and soon marrying a Puerto Rican. We've been together for over three years, and I could not be happier. Before him I was dating a Filipino. I almost dated a black man too. I love all men. I agree with the woman sitting to the far right of the screen in that men are men. Every race of men has their tendencies to treat women right or wrong, and it all boils down to finding one that will treat you respectfully. I do not think that skin color determines who one's soulmate will be. Although there are cultural differences, those can be understood, appreciated, and overcome to allow for a peaceful, blessed union. I am proud of every woman for being open to any race of men. I do not experience much opposition on a daily basis for my decision in dating outside my race, but I have before and I know I will again. My reaction is always this: people hate what they do not understand, and I feel sorry for them that they are so closed minded and cannot experience the passion and deep love in finding the one for them and that they limit themselves by race.

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John Doe — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:58:38 GMT

What this story did not highlight is who is acting as the male role model to the sons in these single parent families? Is it hip hop culture? Has anyone read Jason Whitlocks article on the death of Sean Taylor. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7499442?MSNHPHCP&GT1=10637. It is a very interesting perspective.

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phil, new york, New York — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:50:41 GMT

You have 3 fat women who have lost love determining what all women neeed and miss. They do not look or represent all black women. No one has looked at the reasons why women are in this predicament or why black women do not help african american men.

Do a story on why african americam men are in decline and do something about it. Education and Jobs are the main problem for african american men. Thus, in return it will improve the economic development of black men and women. As well as help black women and their relationship with black men. Tlyler Perry the movie star director ask these questions, why not go after the garbage man, fireman, auto mechanic guy in looking for love. Sometimes the guy with all the money tends to treat women bad. If you seen the movie Madea family reunion, by tyler perry. Many african women tend to set their goals on marrying a rich man.

They will not look at going after a lower wage earner for fear of social issues in the community. Ask these questions. why do black women stress the black man in relationships. Asian and whites don't. why don't the black women make the black man feel proud and encourage him. White woman and asian women encourage their men to succeed. Why are most black woman still talk about achieving higher earnings than a man.

Take your earnings and help the black man achieve the same as you. Many black women will not.

This is partialy the reason as to why many black men leave black women and go to other races, because they do not help or listen to them.

Ask the black man what he wants in a relationship, why black women don't give it to them

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L Brownfield Bagdad Iraq — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:12:18 GMT

This is the humor I needed in Iraq this morning, especially since some of the interviewing took place in my home city Chicago.

Black, Male, from a Chicago Ghetto, looking 30 at 45 years of age, employed, with no felony or drug habits - Stable, married and glad my wife is not the stereo type Degreed Black Woman.

I am so glad that my wife don't live the reality of "The manless Black oop's African American Woman". That issue is one that will go on and on until Black women make better choices in the men they date in their younger years in my opion.

I saw a bit about Black men being intimidated by a degreed Black woman, that is so un-true! I do not have a College credit to my name. I pay for two 2006 vehicals + insurance, Double the amount of child support stated in my divorce dercee.

This comes from a man that never lived with / shacked up with a woman he dated. You can't be the king if you don't hold the deed. I teach my sons that and I stress to them "Do Not Move In With A Woman" have your own and if she wanna play the GET OUT game - you never have to get out of a place where you pay the rent.

I am married now and yes we have our up's & down's especially with me going back and forth to Iraq but...she wouldn't trade me for the world and all her girlfriends ask "are there anymore left where he came from?"

A degree only say so much and if it were all that I guess it would make people smart enough to find what they seek.

Ladies, a solid man ain't that hard to find and if you do the right thing, you will in less that 2 years do the WIFE thing.

The typical Black woman phrase is "I don't need nobody, I got a good job, house & my kids...what I need a man for?" That sound real good when it is 4 or 5 women saying the same thing.

I quote Chris Rock "You can drive a car with your feet...that don't mean it's Right".

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MistaO — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:32:44 GMT

Paula Penn-Nabrit has said it all! No truer words have been spoken. And big up's to thoses who recognize these divide and conquer tactics.

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Tu'Fanza, Kansas City, MO — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:12:35 GMT

It's about time that our issues were shown just as they are in primetime news. I commend NBC News for this series and I can't wait to see more just like it.

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Tina, Indpls., Indiana — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:51:06 GMT

Thank you MSNBC for the series “African American Women and where they stand.” I have often felt our story has been left out of the mainstream media. We are a segment of the population largely ignored and patronized as 'difficult drama divas'. Black women are not monolithic; we represent the full range of human frailties and self-actuation. We are independently conservative and socially liberal. Meaning the complexity of our community is vast.
The plight of African American community is a glorious study of succeeding in difficult and often hostile environments. The prayers of our ancestors have taken us a long way, but we have much work to do - for ourselves, community and our children. I love all people, especially my people who nurtured me and sacrificed much to make me the woman I am today. I don't know where I would be without the strong Black men and Black women who loved me unconditionally and the Black church that became my refuge in difficult times. Who knows how our story will develop; but I am optimistic in the resilience of my people. Once we get our relationships with each on track, we will have a great chance at thriving again as a people.

Deeply grateful, Tina

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Akeem Darroux — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:17:40 GMT

I would Like to say THANKS MSNBC for helping these black women tear down black men, there are no good black men out there. You should come out with a Rap Video next, Name it "Drop the Brother and come to the MAN"

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Akira Darroux — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:22:08 GMT

What type of message are these women spreading to Society? Because they are too weak to handle a break up (like we all don't go through these things)they start to discriminate.I believe that there actions are very selfish and I would like to boycott MSNBC for allowing these ideas to expressed. I have a daughter and a son and would hate for them to believe that their are no good black men out there. What happened to follow your heart? Money is not everything, and its quite clear that these money may have chosen to date white men because they see an economic power in them.

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Christie Malone — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:28:19 GMT

Yes we get it now! Black women are the victims again. Why don't you all grow a backbone and for God sake try not to make yourself look so greedy.

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SRC, Cheverly, Maryland — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:29:23 GMT

News of the weeklong segment about African-American women was widely shared within my large circle of professional sisters and I eagerly modified my schedule to ensure that I would not miss it! I looked forward to its airing. After watching the first two segments, I am most disappointed and have concluded that the target audience really is not the African-American women. The segments have told me very little more than I already know about myself and it missed a golden opportunity to provide important information for those who want more than the fact of our daily lives. The segments so far have not gone far enough in answering the “So what” question. The five topics covered in what, 10 minutes? really require in-depth analysis and reporting. I would have preferred NBC select one of these topics and talk about it all week! As an example, African-American women should be diligent about getting our breasts examined after age 40 – ok, earlier if breast cancer runs in our family. We should also participate in more trials and tests that generate data about us since studies and trials are based on the evidence gathered from white women. The most important aspect was not provided in the news segment – Are there new trials being conducted now? by whom? In what states? Answers to those questions would have made me think this week long new report was truly aimed at raising MY awareness AND providing me with useful information. At this point, I am convinced this new report (and I use this very loosely) targeted the White American population that may not have known much about African-American women.

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BIC — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:39:38 GMT

Unfortunately, none of the reports lead to a solution or present the best solution, which is returning to the order God commanded us all (men, wife, children and repeat the order again and again). And to return to God is to fear the wrath of his judgment, when we willingly transgress his law and unfaithfully fail to keep his commandments; showing we truly do not love his son, Jesus Christ. Because if we loved the Lord, we would not commit the sins that have brought upon all people, but especially black, diseases, sexual disparity which has led whorish black females to believe that everything is OK!
Black Numbers are not righteous:

The greater concern and problem in black community and white America (which is spiritually Sodom and Gomorrah) is our forsaking God and accepting and affirming sin (transgressing the law of God) as if there are no consequences; therefore making wrong -right and right things-wrong.

Slavery, 100 years of lynching in America of the Black man (and not one white person has ever been prosecuted), deliberate racial discrimination, segregation, police brutality, real estate 'red-lining', and the worst of all white systemic racist US policies is welfare, which has destroyed the order of the family and legalized whoredom which God punishes the children with death.

Our political, religious, education, justice and social leaders are all asleep and drunken with the wine of fornication of women. And yes today, this drunkenness has caused the attitude of 'to each his own' and I've got to get mine, even at the expense of you'! None of these attitudes, which are so pervasive among people aged 55 and below, are righteous before God. Remember God will only hear the prayer of the righteous (he will hear the cry of the poor, only after their oppression is too great).

When 7of10 your children are born out of wedlock; and of those births, 7of10 children born out of wedlock are girls, you will have the grave disparity (Isaiah 54:1). God does not approve of children born to whorish and adulterous women (Isaiah 57:1-6). And the black males born out of wedlock, over 94% are no good to the kingdom of God. They will never be taught by their father the law of God.

Has anyone considered why black professional females between 24 to 45 years are the new leaders in contracting AIDS? And why black women as a whole are over 60% of all AIDS cases in the US during the past five years? Ans. Sex out of wedlock (whoredom; Deuteronomy 23:17). And these children produced in whoredom are gravitating to homosexual and lesbian lifestyles that are direct abominations that God will punish by death (Leviticus 20:13).
Every night in America, a black male born out of wedlock is murdered because of their mothers lewdness (Ezekiel 23:45-49; Nahum 3:10)

god has provided the answers of how to get out of situations, as well as, what thoughts and activities lead us to get involved in those situations that are detrimental to our carnal and spiritual walks.

African-American women and where they stand

Angelrh Louisville, KY — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:52:03 GMT

Hello
I am glade somebody is finally talking about how back women are doing great. I think this can be very uplifting to the communities for both the black male and black women. So those of you who are hating on this postive news of us black women STOP! Everybodoy "aint" trying to hate. Some people do realize black women have been keeping it together for years in the home and outside the home. Please try not to bash the good talk for once.

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Lionel Fils-Aime, Edison, NJ. — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:15:21 GMT

The issues highlighted in the series are nothing short of a tragedy for the African-American family. Yet we see no WAVE OF BLACK LEADERS making sustained efforts to force a change. Thank God that black women have not had sports and entertainment to blind them into believing that those were the only avenues to instant success, as too many black youngters, later to become "men" have come to believe.

I was raised in the West Indies in an era when a child, well into adulthood, had only one job: go to school and get an education. My strongest belief is that it's always been, should be today and remain that way. We have totally lost sight of the discipline, respect and appreciation for life that learning gives us.

Once again hooray for the African-American woman who's making it on her own. Unfortunately she has an even bigger job to do: raise the black men.

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J.S.Holmes, New York City, NY — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:47:57 GMT

First and foremost, thank you NBS for this series. It is rare to have a week of interesting pieces on AA women. I know how challenging it was to get this approved and on the air.

All of which saddens me when I read the posts. Some were written before the start date, before anyone saw the content, a sad reality. So often we assume what the story will be before hand. The fact remains, the story for us as individuals, and as a races is still being written.

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Chris, Hartford, Connecticut — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:16:27 GMT

This is a message for all those who are whining about "Divide and Conquer" tactics and "putting down the Black man": GROW UP, STOP CHOOSING TO BE IN DENIAL, and ladies stop allowing these "Brothers"
to silence you and put the entire African-American community in a state of paralysis. There is a climate of disrespect that the African-American community has accepted as normal and I'm not only speaking of relationships between men and women. WAKE UP! Our problems are not purely economic
(Yes, I read that book too).

In case you missed my previous message(which I will repeat), your SILENCE is the number one killer in the
African-American community. African-Americans are divisive all by themselves so stop trying to put
the blame elsewhere. YOU CAN'T FIX WHAT YOU REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE! Below is my message from yesterday and since so many of us are still whining, I'll add a few more things!

The lives of African-American women cannot be accurately assessed by a series of snippets. I find this "series" not only disappointing but insulting.

First, It is a myth that African-American women are applauded for having a good education, good manners, poise, and professionalism. It is clear, for example, that I am living in the same world my mother, grandmother, and great grand mother lived in. I am often greeted with anger, jealousy, resentment, and disdain BECAUSE I have an education, BECAUSE I choose to carry myself in a professional manner, BECAUSE I write and speak well. Moreover, the anger and resentment in which I speak comes from the good old white boy network, the good old white girl network, AND from African-Americans alike!

If I suffered from obesity, low self-esteem, high blood pressure, diabetes, and heart disease, people would love me! If I walked around bowed and broken, filing and smiling, people would love me. If I presented myself like a carpet everyone could walk on, people would me. However, I don't fit into any of the categories listed above. I spend more time pulling knives out of my back than doing anything else. I had no idea, for example, that graduating from an Ivy League school was equivalent to receiving several tickets to hell and back. If it were not for the grace of God, I would have bled to death spiritually and emotionally a long time ago. Many African-American women try a hand at their own businesses because they are sick and tired of the many abuses they suffer silently on the job. With respect to relationships, I am sick and tired of African-American women being dishonest or trying to sugarcoat what REALLY goes on in their relationships with African-American men. Again, the number one killer in the African-American community is SILENCE.

Since most women aren't BRAVE enough to speak honestly on the subject, allow me to do the honors. (And I don't want to hear from those BRAINWASHED African-American women who think it's wrong to be a slave to a white man but are more than willing to be a slave to a black man! Bondage is bondage, period.)

1. For the most part, African-American men do not honor or respect African-American women. And for the "Brothers" in denial, the poor man has no more respect for African-American women than the rich man. Stop clinging to the lie that the garbage man, the fireman, or the auto mechanics are the "good guys". Too many African-American men are looking for that "easy out", i.e., they want a woman who doesn't expect anything when it comes to responsibility, commitment, respect, and loyalty.
2. African-American men have no problem using African-American women for the moment (especially when they're down and out), chewing them up, and spitting them out like a piece of gum with no sugar.
3. College degree or not, African-American women are out there on their own. Even an educated African-American man does not want to be around an educated African-American woman. (This is true even when they SEEM to be O.K. with it).
4. By the time you eliminate the men who are in jail, the parasites who are with you for the meantime, the men who are gay and/or on the down low, and those who are just plain demonic, misogynistic, or trifling, many African-American women have NO CHOICE but find relationships elsewhere.
5. Many African-American men (whether they admit it or not) think no differently from the man who "has his foot on our neck". African-American women are not supposed to want anything, expect anything, or strive for anything.
6. Too many African-American men refuse to hold themselves accountable for their own actions and would rather put the blame on slavery or the white man. For example, if you decide to buy a BOSE home system instead paying your bills, it's not that you didn't have the money, you were simply a poor steward over your finances. If an African-American woman is supportive of her man, treats him well, sticks with him through thick and thin and he decides to turn around, spit in her face, stab her in the back or treat her like dirt, that is HIS choice not the white man's. Too many African-American men think they are doing their women a favor by being with them and treat them accordingly.
7. There is a difference between CAN'T and WON'T. Many African-American men CAN be supportive of African-American women but WON'T. (Just try to start a business ladies. Most of the money and moral support will come from strangers!)

Finally, I don't believe that running to the BLACK church is the answer. We have too many buildings in the African-American community and not enough houses of God. ( I apologize ahead of time to my holier- than-thou sisters) I meet more Christians out side of the church than in it. Too many of us would rather style and profile or stay in denial than deal with the issues of HIV/AIDS, men on the down low (IN CHURCH!), adultery, domestic violence, child abuse, and demons on the pulpit and deacon board. Until we are willing to address the ills within our own community, we will never be healed and we will never be free.

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AverageBro — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:22:47 GMT

I'm sorry, but this series is just a cacophony of dredged up stereotypes about black men. I thought this was supposed to be about black women, not black women as victims.

Peep my blog entries about this series, day by day.

http://www.averagebro.com/2007/11/nbc-news-to-black-women-it-sucks-to-be.html

http://www.averagebro.com/2007/11/nbc-news-to-black-women-youll-be-lonely.html

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Karen, Berrien Springs MI — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:59:48 GMT

I am glad that this series is happening. I am however a bit unsure of the overall focus of the program. Is it to shed light on some of the issues that AA women face(I should say black women- since many of the black women who live in this country were not born here but face the same issues as those who were)? Is it to showcase the black woman and her roll in the society? After reading all of these comments I realize that people are addressing completely different issues that need hours for exploration all by themselves. A few 3 min sound bites will not cover the issue of Black men vs Black women interms of education, acheivements, relationships etc. Nor will it showcase the impact of slavery on our communities, nor will it showcase minority health disparities or anymore of the issues raised.

So, if this series is designed for black women to simply discuss some things that are unique to us and hopefully share some suggestions then I think its doing a fine job. But if this show was designed to take on the entire weight of the African diaspora and its place in American society complete with promotion of the positives and solutions to the negatives - well then NBC is run by a bunch of lunatics. Because no one in their right mind would try to take that on in one 3 min/day, 7 day series.

I am accepting this series for what it is. It doesn't address many of the issues voiced here because that is not what it was intended for - nothing more

So my take on it is - for what its worth, Thank you Rehema for doing this, for discussing things with us since no one else seems to. These issue are real - I have so many, professional, acomplished friends who are genuinely sweet and wonderful women, who are single - not because they have an attitude or are aggressive or all of that but because that is their reality. So for what this series was intended - Thank you. I do hope that you will follow up and deliberately showcase the positive impact of African American and other black women on the american society. Now that is something we don't see at all and it would be a great niche to explore.

(BTW Lisa you made some good points that I didn't know about decreased rates of teenage pregnacy being higher int he black community and all of that. Where can I find that information. I work with a youth group and would love to share it with them)

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Marie, Washington, DC — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:05:32 GMT

I would like to commend NBC for doing this series although I must admit I find the segments way too short to really do the subject matters justice. I'm sure that the people behind the scenes had to lobby long and hard for this to hit the air and I thank them. The little more depth would go a long way but this is a good start.

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Raja Al-Taqi, Cleveland, Ohio — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:22:05 GMT

I'm from the first black mayor of a major american city era. I was active in working to achieve desegregation in america as a youth and into my adulthood. My parents and their children however were not able to migrate to the suburbs and so call escape the inter-city. We never percieved our not being able to go to another more middle class neighborhood as better. All of my siblings have done alright in life and we were taught to respect life and fortunately we've passed the lesson forward. Many AA's have lost the fine art of caring for and about one another. Too many AA's have become complacent with the trappings of assimilation and so called success while their culture and history crashes and burns. All the milestones that the 50's thru 90's are being minimized and never spoken to the new AA's. Let me stop here and say I'm in the last third of my life now and I still have hope that somehow we will finally begin to recover from slavery and move towards reconciliation,forgiveness and tolerance for ourselves. So far I'm keeping my heart,mind,soul and spirt open to the dialoque of this series. Let me also say "Well said Bernard".

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Andrea Powers, Atlanta, Georgia — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:24:24 GMT

The one statistic that does not surprise me one bit was the fact that the ratio of women to men at Black Colleges is 7:1. As a graduate of Prairie View A&M University, I have experienced this first hand. The other statistic that frightens me is the fact that less black women are getting married. I want to get married, start a family, and live happily ever after. But, have you seen what black women have to choose from. Most of our brothers are in jail, have numerous children, or are intimidated by us. What is a modern black woman to do?

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Betty Knowles, Baltimore, MD — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:28:41 GMT

I'm glad to see this series of reports on African American Women. There has been much talk about the need for more attention in the news for and about African Americans - now that we have a little of it, all many can do is complain.

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Donya: Columbus, OH — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:29:27 GMT

Indeed, there is just so much ground to cover here, thus to fault NBC for their inability to play catch-up in five days is neither fair nor reasonable.

Like most African-American Women, I appreciated NBC's decision to air a series about us! And surely, most blacks believe our stories are newsworthy and deserve to be told.

But you know something, my problem is not with NBC or its media personalities and staff, it's with us!

Tears form and I get a pit in my stomach when I think about all the collective talent, wealth, knowledge and other intangible and tangible resources we have as a people, and yet we are still so darn far behind.

We do not trust each other. We do not honor each other. We do not respect each other. We do not support each other. So if these statements are valid (and you know in the pit of your own stomach that they are), then logic would suggest that we also do not love each other.

We are some of the most church-going folks we know, and yet we are some of the most undisciplined, unreliable, irresponsible and unaccountable.

When we send our children to school, do we opt to send them to their neighborhood or community school or do we send them elsewhere? Do we support our inner-city schools where a large number of black children attend? Oh but we wait, we want the best education for our children, right? When we purchase a home, do we try to move as far away from places we once called home as possible? Sounds like black flight to you? What about our purchasing dollars? Why do we continue to make everyone else rich but us? I smile to keep from crying! When we go to the store, do we go to Target and Walmart, or the black-owned mom and pop grocery store in the city? How many fully-owned black banks do we have in this country? How many in your city? We talk a good game, but after the Million Man March and Million Woman March, what measurable outcomes or “cultural corrections” did we really see?

Sure, I could go on but my tears are blurring my vision!

Until we decide to really be about our Father's business, we will NEVER have collective anything much less collective enterprise.

We do not need others (mainstream media, B.E.T., a boss, a neighbor...) to validate us!

Ok, tears set-aside!

My final thoughts are:

God created us ALL for his pleasure. He created us to be Stars. Are you/we exhibiting the Star qualities in you/us daily? Stars do not just exist in the heavens no more than they just exist in Hollywood. God has filled the earth with stars. Listen, until you believe that you are just as great or greater than Oprah (for instance) and just as capable and more capable than Bill Gates (for example), the unique blessing and purpose that's been placed on your life may not manifest. Do not waste your star power, embrace it and know it to be real and be a blessing to another star. Stars give other Stars star treatment! Know that you are a Star and that you are a child of God. We all are! Consequently, no one is ever above you or beneath you. But it's our decision to live well, do well and release our own Star Power.

Irrespective of whether NBC aired this piece for 5-minutes each day or 50-minutes each day, know your worth and value to this world. Frankly, I respect folks like Oprah and Jordan for their own personal achievements in entertainment, but until we as a people are COLLECTIVELY MORE BETTER OFF, then my suggestion to you is that we (Stars who shine just as bright as Oprah) have a lot of unfinished business that folks like Oprah have not even remotely touched.

Let's stop living life worried about mistreatment, hatred, haters, racism, and the past. We cannot change factors outside of our control. Wisdom says to limit your intake and interaction with stars who do not recognize their own star power, much less yours. But what we can do is start being about our own business, God's business. When we get that right, we too will be all right with ourselves and right with all of God's Star creations.

The Star in Me greets the Star in You and wishes each of you a very Merry Christmas!

And remember, we cannot change the past (not even yesterday), but the Present is a Gift from God. Let's do something with it, for the day after is promised to no one.

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A. Grisham., Norfolk, Va — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:24:47 GMT

I've read the many responses that have been posted here about the series on AA women. And again I hear the same over and over again- AA women are going to school, getting a collge degree at an alarming rate that AA men. Okay now that we've identified the disparaity what are we going to do about it? What solution are we going to employ to rectify the problem? What tools are we going to use to enable out Black men to succeed?
To begin with let's go back to that young black males upbringing. Many African American children are growing up in a sinlge parent home, and 98% of them are run by women. So where is thet black male child learning about what it takes to be a strong black man? In the worst place of all-the street.That male child cannot grow up to be a good example of a man, to be a suitable husband for the woamn he choses to be his wife if you've never given him an example of a man to emulate. Then by the time he is between the age of 21-25 he has a criminal record, been to jail, no high school education. So what kind of job is going to get?
Yet time and time again I hear AA women say, "I don't need a man, I can do for myself". Your son needs a man, a man of good strong vaules and attributes. But in many cases when an African Amercain man possess these values, he's seen a nerd, "he ain't down with it". I know I've been there, heard it and dealt with it. I dealt with racism, in the one place I never thought I would encounter it, in my own house, in my marriage- to someone of my own ethic background.
I've succeed in life and I didn't use the race card. I completed a twenty year Navy carrer before the age of 40, and moved into a full time job three days after my tranfer to the Fleet Reserve. Yet my success and my example was not welcomed by my ex-wife.
For NBC News;
When your're ready to do your segment on African American Men, please come to Hampton Roads, Va. I would like to have some input, I want the world to see a postive example of an African American man and give our young black men some advice.

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Fariga Drayton, St. Louis, MO — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:28:03 GMT

I watched the show last night (wed) and I was somewhat shocked to see that 40% of African American women are not married. That's a sad statistic. I'm a Christian and I know that Marriage is ordained by God for us to procreate. It's hard for me, being a 30 African American woman to come into contact with a man who, 1.) respects me, 2.) not afraid to be in a relationship with me (because of my education and where I am in my career), 3.) can accept my religious beliefs concerning marriage. I would hope that there are a few black men left that can handle my college degree, my work and success of my abilities and one who holds strong religious/christian beliefs as I.

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Pauline Ford-Caesar — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:28:48 GMT

Let's see ABC has veteran reporters Deborah Roberts and Robin Roberts, CBS has the brilliant Debbye Turner and NBC has who, oh of course there's Janice reading the weather for all of 2 seconds on Sundays. I am glad to see that a station that has afforded us so much visibility is now doing a series about us.

African-American women and where they stand

Carole Thompson La Plata Md. — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:40:51 GMT

Yes, there are a large number of Black females raising children alone. Why does't someone look at the White females that are doing the same. I notice that most white women have had more than one husband Some as many as 5.

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Kurt, Bklyn, NY — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:50:20 GMT

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Dear Precious Black people,

I quoted the above warning to remind you that this is just "controlled" hype. Anytime anyone can validate what goes on within our community from someone outside of our community it is an attempt to control us.

NEVER FORGET THE BRUTALITY OF THE AMERICAN SLAVE TRADE AND THE INTERNATIONAL COPPERATION IT RECEIVED.

LIKE THE JEW ---NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGET.

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james, baltimore, maryland (black man 26) — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:58:39 GMT

while i appreciate the fact that the story of some issues involving african american women recieved

national attention, and the statistics and women on

the show were very relevant and revealing in talking

about their issues, i wondered why there wern't more

professionals, sociaologists, economists talking

about the social and political dynamics of the issue.

there have been numerous social scientists who have

exhaustively about this issue like marian wright

edelman, william julius wilson and others.

another thing, we ned to focus on the solutions

rather than the problems.

many of us might not know the statistics of the

social disparities that exist between black women and

men but we face this issues in our daily lives.

I want to hear about the solutions because i am not

willing to just give up because of all of these

daunting statistics. i've dedicated my blog to

enhancing our relationships as black people and i

have a few posts on how to improve yourself and the

relationships we have with the opposite sex. i hope

you and others check it out because this is the one

thing we don't see on televison, the simple solutions

that can save us years and years of agony.

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Cynthia, Detroit, MI — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:59:45 GMT

Bravo to Benner Marco and Ellen. I am confused and concerned as to why this series is being aired? Statistically speaking, I don't believe any of the numbers reported as the numbers for non Blacks are never correctly reported. Brian Williams, can you explain why we, Black women, are suddenly so important to you and NBC?

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Chaplain Lonzie Symonette — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:05:23 GMT

I am a sixty-one year old African-American woman, a published author, small business owner, mother of two professional women, wife of 38 years, ordained AMEC clergy and a hospice Chaplain. My great grand mother was borned twenty-one years after the signing of the Emancipation Proclamation--a lot of history is behind me and much history--a lot in front of me.
Thank you Brian, Mara and NBC for the informative, inspiring, challenging news. I am proud of my culture and my people. We are SOMEBODY! I am looking forward to viewing tonight's segment.

Many of my clergy women and men colleagues are prioritizing their schedules so that they can also view this history making event.

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Chaplain Lonzie Symonette, Colorado Springs, CO. — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:06:28 GMT

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Alicia, Naugatuck, Ct — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:11:05 GMT

One of my colleagues informed me of this series and I am glad to know that information that has been swept under the rug is finally surfacing. The issues raised in this series are enlightening and powerful for African-American Women and Men. The more we learn about ourselves, the more we can help others. We can overcome anything with knowledge and exposure to all aspects of society. Each one truly need to teach one and make the world a better place for all.

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Geena Storms, Virginia Beach, VA — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:18:35 GMT

Most black women already know the things discussed in these segments. The ONLY solution: Black Men: Value education, respect your mother, stop having unprotected sex and increasing the population, refuse to believe that it's not cool to be intelligent, don't put yourself or family in system that was DESIGNED to keep you oppressed, accept responsibility, don't accept mediocrity, be choicey, create your own legacy, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A PRODUCT OF YOUR PAST OR ENVIORNMENT!!!!!!Take those street business practices to the colleges and universities and change traditional thinking about business, commerce and profit. There is nothing more threatening than an educated black man, it's more powerful than pointing a loaded gun at someone's head. Lastly, I would like to see a reality show where they take some common street thugs and give them on the job training for a bit se them loose in a fortune 500 company and see what happens!

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Sarah — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:21:50 GMT

Thanks to Mara, for her feature on the plight African American women face in health, education and relationships. It is sad that so many of our brothers do not step up to the plate and become worthwhile mates for the women of today. I hope this new feature encourage more women to get mamogram screenings and take better care of their health and not to limit themselves when looking for love. A good man is a good man regardless of race.

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IMAN, NY, NY — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:17:29 GMT

In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not an AA.

But whatever happened to being Black and not "AA"?
There are many issues that have already been well covered and described above.

I have two suggestions for "AA" women, 1) You are Black, say it loud.....
2) Be proud of your beauty and uniqueness. Many people wish they had what you have, the texture hair, the curves, the whole 9 yards. there is no one built stronger or more beautiful.

In that regard, why not grow out your natural hair and express that beauty? Set the standard, dont follow anyones. Its a small start, but it is also very very very BIG!

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chris andrews, shepherd,tx. — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:39:35 GMT

my husband and i tried to raise our son and daughter, first to believe in themselves,second, strive to be the best you can be, third, respect yourself so you can respect others. my son, now, is trying to encourage this philosphy on to his son, and hopefully, so on, and so on.

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Eboni Davis — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:44:36 GMT

I personally am happy to see that AA women are finally being recognized. I am an AA woman, I have been married and am now pending divorce. I find it difficult to relate to AA men because I for one, did not have a father. The only other AA male models I had were abusive, irresponsible or otherwise ubtuse and unconcerned. While I do not subscribe to the idea the all AA men are this way, I am overwhelmed at the experiences that I have on a daily basis with sector of our race. I hve found that I am not the face of beauty in not only the media but also in the eyes of my counterparts. I have been disrespected and neglected. I think that we need to redress the issue of black men/womens relations. The phenomenon of decreased marriage amongst our people also points to the issue of fatherless homes. My former spouse told me he never had a model of a successful marriage to look to for direction. He also said the even though his father was in the home that he was emotionally unavailable and had other parenting issues that caused a disconnect, leaving him with no male role model to structure his manhood after. With that (having both come from fatherless homes) we both behaved dysfunctionally and our marriage ended. I pass black men on the street and they won't even look my way. Why? Is it because I am a black woman that LOOKS like a black woman? (Not Beyonce, Alicia Keys, Halle Berrie; I'm more India Arie, Lauryn Hill, Nia Long. ) Or is it that we are tipping around a very necessary conversation? I think both but more of the latter. It is time for brothers and sisters to come to the table and discuss the issues. Alot of my problems stem from predatory behvior I have experienced from black men. Maybe they know a woman that fits the Angry Black Woman stereotype. Either way, it's time to be about solutions and I'm willing to talk.

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Pierre Crawford, Katy, Texas — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:54:26 GMT

I've watched one segment of this series on the web and I'm not surprised that it is yet another piece done on NBC that demotes the black male as a whole. I think the intent was a good one at heart by Rehema to share some of the issues that black women face in todays society. However, rarely do you see any stories that tell you the story of the black male in a positive light. It is always the norm to show how a black may have succeeded, but it normally always comes with a checkered past. Now don't get me wrong I certainly applaud and respect someone who has worked hard to turn their life around and is doing something positive, but the balance of a story like this should be to show a man who has struggled to make it and done nothing wrong in their past, and was able to acheive something in their life....but if you do that where is the story....does it make for good TV?

Sadly as a society we have accepted that the media has the ability to show us what THEY want us to see, not what reality is. True we have many of our men in jails, but what about the thousands that are in college? No, they don't all play sports either, they are plenty of black colleges and universities where our men are getting an education. Sure the numbers could be higher, but can't we at least share that there is a number of them seeking a higher education? Can't we share that there are plenty of black men in stable, long term relationships, some of which either the man is the only person providing for his family or both mother and father are carrying the load to support their families. Can't we show the doctors, lawyers, scientists, mathematicians, engineers, nurses, CEO's, other than the ones who have done something wrong.

I challenge NBC to do a meaningful piece on the good of america...the so called minority man of america, doesn't have to be just a black man, could be any race...but show how us men, everyday, go do what is right....just for a change? Would that be news? Nope, because the media has beat everyone down so hard that most people would think it was a sitcom before they would think it's real news. So start with yourself and look around in your place of business, where you shop, where you go to church...and see...there are enough good people making it happen, making it right!

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Allison Selfridge, Concord, Mass. — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:01:08 GMT

I am politically unsophisticated. But I can`t help choosing NBC at 6:30 at night in Boston. I just want to say that I admire Brian Willams`s choice of which topics to give air time to.
He never deserts and never forgets New Orleans. And this new series about black women seems unusually good and unusually needed.

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Eboni Davis — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:10:47 GMT

To everyone that is upset that NBC is airing this I would say that I am one of the women having a hard time finding a mate ion my own race. I am NOT a gold-digger, I want someone to build WITH. I am not brainwashed, wanting only a light skinned good hair man, I am not angry, snapping at the drop of a dime, and these are not lies. This is my truth and I knwo aliot of sisters who feel this way. I n America, black women have long since been brutalized, ignored and raped at the hand of our oppressors without the protection of the black man. I find myself asking my male frineds and relatives, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH??!! When I start seeing black men parenting, protecting, supporting and building for the black woman then my faith will increase. Truth: Nations have been built by the brunt of men (not to slight the contribution of women but..) historically, men have established governments, built cities, passed legislature and the more all in the name of establishing thier race. Why not our men? Why instead of killing to protect that purity and name of black women have you called us Hoes? and Bitches? Scheezers? And Tramps? Realizing that some women do fall into this category which is so of every race and I dont hear them calling their women these things. For many AA men in my generation (21-31), their truth is that they have been raised, nurtured and cared for, supported and tended to by BLACK WOMEN!!! Your mothers were there, not your fathers! Why are you so angry at us? A woman is soft and fragile by nature, when she is faced with hardsip (single parenthood, etc) she makes the adjustment. But the same strength that it takes for her o raise that child, work those long hours, while going to school, it takes a toll. It causes one to become more sober minded, less frivolous. I have heard that our men think us hard, bitter and callus, but I tell you that we, (BW) unlike white woimen have not had the luxury of remaining care free and compromising. Their men have built a country for them that uphold and favors them, but ours, well that another story. Just another side of the coin...

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JD, Berkeley, CA — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:27:08 GMT

The most PRIVILEGED generation of Black woman...

can't carry a torch to the Black women of my mothers (Aunts and grand-mothers) generation; who lived through the 40's, 50's & 60's. You’re riding on the coat-tails of these women to support your own agenda and it deeply OFFENDS me. If the current generation of Black women had an ounce of the GRACE and REGAL-NESS of those women instead of mastering the art of self promotion, I might be inclined to listen. Those women REALLY had it hard and I don't remember and never heard them whine and complain like the women today. Ask a Black woman of that generation about the pool of professional high salaried Black men.

Furthermore that generation did not need the constant masturbatory, self-congratulatory, queen rhetoric; we're so good, daily self-psyche job that the current generation absolutely needs like they need oxygen! They were far more secure and certainly didn't throw on designer cloths, jump into a BMW and head off to any support groups or need authors writing books about why he loves Black women.

I witnessed those women get their families ready for work & school, cooking breakfast FROM SCRATCH, go their own job, after work to help a white lady (who had been home all day) take care of her family, forced to ride home in the back seat of car, just in time to take care of her own family. So when people respond to the sentiment or notion of ‘Black woman’s plight’ THAT’S what they’re responding to. It isn’t about you.

Those women would NEVER had used there plight as an attempt to keep the goodies for themselves. Which is, let’s face it, what all the self-promoting, poor-mouthing is REALLY about; the foundation justifying the argument for taking care of ME. Black men were expected to share the goodies with poor women, un-employed, uneducated women and now that you have the advantages you want to keep the goodies. Fine if that’s what you want, have at it, but don’t use the clout & sentimental capital generated by the women of that generation.

This series isn’t about Black women; it’s about elite Black women as though the entire race should be focusing on your issues because of course you are more deserving (the case you continue to make). Poor and working class Black women with families, should find it nauseating to hear you with your advance degrees, designer clothes and nice salaries complaining.

I don’t wish you any ill will but when I genuflect to the notion of a Black woman; it’s to the spirit of Harriet Tubman who returned time & time again after she had gained freedom to save people. And to the 60, 70, 80 and 90 year old women in my family who by the way continue to bless and love me and my White wife because: That’s what they do!

So I ‘m not falling for it and don’t need any race women or there placating men telling my I should love Black women because I do. Just not the opportunistic commercial version, it’s a set up and I know it when I see it and so do a lot of others like me.

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Cheena, Lansing, MI — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:30:03 GMT

I did not get a chance to see this but I hope that what will also be portrayed is the intimidation felt by many non-blacks when educated, black females work within their companies. Like Lamont Sullivan, I was targeted out, given a different set of rules but I was the most competent in my area. I was told my boss was threatened by my suggestions, taking them as a reminder that she doesn't quite know her job! We should not have to "keep our mouths shut" acting as slaves to please non-blacks in corporate America. I hope this program sheds light on the current struggles we ALL face, not just black women but black men as well!

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JDG, San Diego — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:33:51 GMT

Geena you should pitch your idea, that show would be a hit! You hit on the very first step, STOP THE BABIES but these Black men aren't having 'unprotected sex' with themselves. The women share a great deal of responsibility, the lions share in fact on who they're choices. It starts with the women

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J.P Minneapolis Minnesota — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:37:20 GMT

Bill Cosby has been talking about the African American community and both genders for some time now. NBC has been talking about it for a week. So this dialog is nothing new. Having this dialog is good but What needs to be done is finding a NEW SOLUTION. We focused on the Problems now we all know what come next.

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Cheena, Lansing, MI — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:52:20 GMT

I posted earlier but decided to keep reading additional posts. I have to agree with some when they say they've been given the solution to a shortage of "good men" which is to date white men. I, too, am bothered by that as I believe we should have a choice in the matter. No offense to white men at ALL, I am attracted to AA men. That doesn't mean I haven't found Caucasian men to be attractive, its just that there are characteristics that I love about black men! Having said that, I don't want to date Caucasian men by default, you know? Again, this is no knock against Caucasian men! This is really more of a call for our AA men to step up!

I saw a program on Nightline where AA students/professtionals were interviewed and they reported that the higher the education they receive, the less AA men want to deal with them. I'm educated (have my Masters), I work as a professional with many ideas for a side business. I've been told by some men that I'm "stuck up" and have forgotten my roots because I voiced my opinion that we don't need to highlight the negativity that some rap music does. True, crime happens but not ALL AA are gangstas and murderers! There are those who are striving, working, living and giving! Why not highlight those situations? Why can't we as AA demand that they be put in the forefront of programs? Has anyone complained to BET for their pathetic programs and repeats of series that only "taint" the good of us?

I believe in our AA men! I will say this, though. It doesn't have to be a battle between us! We shouldn't have to compete in a relationship when we do in the corporate environment. Where are the AA counselors who can put on programs and series about bridging the gap of AA so that we can be stronger TOGETHER?

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Donna Fleming, Los Angeles Ca — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:53:07 GMT

Thanks, NBC Nightly News for airing this series on African American Women in America. I look forward to watching it every night this week.

I can not believe all of the negative comments I have been reading on this blog. It does not matter if it's NBC or another news agency airing our story, they will not be able to cover all of our issues in just one week. But we must commend them in their attempts to bring some of our stories to a diverse audience.

Also, I have to agree with one blogger HIV and AIDS must be covered in your next series.

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Cheena, Lansing, MI — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:59:55 GMT

CHRIS HARTFORD, YOU ARE SAYING SOMETHING!!!!

Is it illegal to leave email addresses on posts as I'd like to continue this conversation with you or whomever!

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BF, Santa Cruz, California — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:19:39 GMT

Old Soldier you get my vote for best post; hands down!

Now that my friends is keeping it real!

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Celena, Virginia Beach, VA — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:37:17 GMT

I found the segment on the statistics of marriage rates for Black women personally validating and painful. This story gives voice to my experience as well as many of my African American girlfriends. Most of us are over 35, educated (some are medical doctors, psychologists,lawyers, etc.), attractive, and chronically single. Most of us have never married or had children, since we were waiting to marry first as we were taught in our Christian households. Now some of us have reproductive issues (fibroids, ovarian cysts) as well as the challeges of advanced maternal age to contend with should we choose to bear children without the benefit of marriage. I have to say I am often depressed for my self as well as my sisterfriends and feel a sense of betrayal, rage, and as someone put it earlier, "invisibility." This is not a popular topic and when broach by me in the past,has resulted in accusations such as "you're just bitter" or "what are you doing wrong?", etc. So instead, it's easier to wear a mask of false cheerfulness and pretend that being alone doesn't bother me when in fact it makes my soul ache. I actually cried during the segment because the numbers reveal a plight for Black women that is only getting worse and I have to accept that I may never have children or find a mate. It is at least helpful that a national media entity is recognizing our struggle and finding it noteworthy. Thank you.

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Cornelia — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:01:59 GMT

I get my local, national and international news from one of the primary stations and will get this scoop on AA women from it as well. I'm glad the subject is being looked at and it should be. I am hesitant about fairness ... as American Television is so White especially the National Nightly News and Primetime Early Evening Talk Shows. Like God and unlike our national TV News, I like diversity (check the diverse trees, oceans, people, languages, hair, grasses, animals, et. al), so I am looking forward to this series and the dialogue that it will generate. Hopefully, it will be positive. I regret that I missed the programs that have already run and ask NBC to post them online for future viewing. With the press so White and a few folks on board who either can take the heat, perpetuate the myth, haven’t got time or a clue, I find the annual let’s go report “X” short-sighted. The subject warrants more than a meet the quota report before year-end.

That said, AA Women like everyone else has issues. All people do. Obviously some seem worst than others. So let's address the issues and provide solutions!

But the reality is that we feed off the drama. Trust me. I run a very positive web site featuring products and services that matter. But it doesn’t get anybody excited – although the information is good. I've had comments like...does everything have to be so positive?, You need to mix it up with some spice/sexiness(?*&!), Make it riotous, so on and so forth. So in an effort to give the people what they want, I will be changing the format. Nevertheless, I will continue to speak with a positive voice - or at least – provide a positive solution to anything negative that we discuss. Check us out in January 08 at mattermax.com for new programming.

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Louisville , Tennessee — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:13:39 GMT

African-American men feel threatened by educated African-American women , especially if they are not educated equally. I am a divorced women and a school teacher with a Master's degree . Our men will come around , but will not stick around the ones of us who have tried to be educationally sound ! I have noticed this and so have my African -American sisters . It is true , we seem to frighten our brothers or something . Maybe we make them feel "beneath" us . I have dated several brothers over a period of 25 years since I've been divorced and can't seem to land one that wants the same things that I want . I will not settle for just anything ! I will stay single if anyone thinks that I will .
Our men also tend to look at outward appearance and choose those who will make them look good to the public. This is a fact about African-American men !All of my beautiful Black women know this too. I am a child of God and a beautiful Plus size women . Yes I am "picky" about who I want to grow old with. Some of our men tend to look for a "Free Ride" too . When they think a sister has money they will hang around awhile . Until I find a christian , God fearing , man who can love me for me , I guess I'll be single ! I can do bad all by myself .

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Oddduck, West Hollywood, CA — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:04:00 GMT

I'm a college educated, child-free, not particularly religious Black woman who grew up in a loving, two parent Catholic household.Having a child without being married was totally unacceptable.As I neither liked nor wanted children, it's never been a personal issue for me.And in middle age, I couldn't care less if I "have a man" or not---and yes, I am straight. Let me say this, however: how dare anyone other than myself make a determination on what I do or with whom I spend my time.No one else decides who I date. I wouldn't accept an underachieving man no matter what his color.Enough with the whining about how bad Black men have it.It's true, now deal with it and DO something about it. I don't expect a break because I'm Black:I pull my own weight and I would expect the man in my life to do the same. My father from the Depression and beyond, somehow managed to find jobs, be faithful to his wife and raise his two chidren, putting both of us through college.People are responsible for the choices they make.If you don't want to have a child in a one parent home, stop having unprotected sex with people you're not married to. Why any woman would have a child by a man she's not legally committed to is something I'll never understand anyway.When did getting married start being more of a hassle than bringing a child into this world? Years ago, when I was very young and attractive, at least four different men told me, and I quote:"..I'd like to get a baby off you." I found that not only disgusting, but insulting. Is this what Black parenting has come to? Genetic curiosity? Black women need to stop giving a damn about male egos and anyone's else's needs but their own.There's no such thing as "too independent".We have every right to expect a man to be our equal and to be with him because we want to, not because we have to.I've never needed anybody and I'm not about to start now.I'm selfish and proud of it and not about to surrender one iota of my strength to some idiot who can't keep up with me.If you have to be less than you are or hide your light to make someone else feel good, get rid of them.Learn to enjoy your own company and respect your own strength.

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Karen Gray, St. Paul, MN — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:07:33 GMT

Brian Williams actually referenced institutionalized racism on the NBC Nightly News! Thank you - Your reference is appropriate and not usually included in major media formats. Go Brian! Go Reheema. I'm impressed.

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Karen Gray, St. Paul, MN — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:07:36 GMT

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Glenn Ellis, Yeadon, Pa. — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:08:58 GMT

Why aren't the health segments of the health disparities of African American women done from the perspective of the failure of the institutionalized racism that is so acceptable in medical school education, and the practice of medicine? Study and study has confirmed that, without exception, there is a difference in the care received.

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Ernesto Vargas Gil, Mexico City — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:09:00 GMT

Data offered in yesterday´s segment are not correct.You stated that the never-been-married-women percentage was the following:

Black: 40%
White: 16%
Nat Avg: 27%

According to U. S. Census Bureau report ("America’s Families and Living Arrangements: 2006") correct data are:

Black: 40.8%
White: 22.6%
Nat Avg: 25,2%

Your figures might not differ that much from the real ones but I think that it would be important for you and your audience to have the most possible accurate information about this such an important topic.

Congratulations for this series on African-American women. It would be nice if you could go more in-depth on this subject reflecting on both the possible causes and options women might have to face this situation.

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Joy — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:09:01 GMT

Very well stated Brooke. I think being defensive displays a weakness that we should not want to convey, if we want all people to take our challenges seriously. It does not help anyone to point fingers, but everyone will gain an advantage if we're honest about the issues and get to a resolution.

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Peggy W. Paulsen — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:15:09 GMT

11.29.07 nightly news Brian Williams stated that quality medical care is dependant on skin color...that white women get better medical treatment and attention than black women. The reality is health care professionals doesn't see a skin color they see dollar signs. Their reality is based on whether or not you have health insurance to pay for the required medical services. Shame on Brain for those misleading statements.

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Gretchen Method, Indianapolis, IN — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:16:38 GMT

What is this race trumps gender vs gender trumps race? As a white woman, call me naive, but the assumption that black women will vote based on affinity is insulting to all black women. Isn't it possible that they will vote for the candidate that they feel best represents their positions on the issues? Do you imply that all black men will vote for Obama, since there is no gender decision to make? How patronizing!

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Whitney, Bethesda, MD — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:17:54 GMT

I've really been enjoying this series. I hope you'll take time to focus on other ethnic groups and other genders as well.

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Ro, Dallas, Texas — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:18:51 GMT

This is an excellent series. I have five friends who are professionals in Dallas, TX: an accountant, an engineer, a pharmaceutical salesperson, a social worker, a teacher and myself a publicist/journalist. We are all single without children and without boyfriends. Three of us have our Masters!
I want to highlight three simple issues that cause this problem of educated black women basically finding no love!
- Ratio: In most cities women have a higher population. Here for every guy there are seven women. Unfortunately, being monogamous is considered a disease for many men, but especially black men. When you have a high population such as this women are basically competing for a man – and usually the one that is most promiscuous wins (so sad!).
- Intimidation: Black men are often intimidated by black women who are educated as much or more than they are. Some see me drive up and become intimidated. And do not give me that “black men are beat down in society…” Whatever! We take the same beatings in society and to think that you as black men have it worse then me as black women is sexist. It may not be the same type of issues, but it all equals out!
- Lack of respect: being educated opens you up to more opportunities, more cultures and overall personal growth. If you were not enlightened some kind of way after going to school – you may need to go back. Regardless of this, I was brought up in a great family that taught respect. Black women receive from our own men a horrible amount of respect! It is in our music, we can’t even say, “Love” in a song and not mean sex! We can’t “She’s very cute or sexy,” it has to be “That h** is fine.” I could keep going with this one, so I will stop.
To say the least, it is sad, when I can’t find love among men of my own race who I once considered to be a reflection of me.

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Sue, Orlando, FL — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:20:54 GMT

I found this series although enlightening, but short and limited, until I came on line and listened to the full interviews. Very indept information that I already know are being discussed and mainstream society can better attempt to understand is being put out there. We are sort of being discussed as "Oh wow, we can relate to this too. Thank you Brian and NBC Nightly News for putting this out there.

African-American women and where they stand

Greg B. Omaha, NE — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:23:07 GMT

Since no empirical data was offered I suspect it was because the producers didn’t want to derail the premise of this series. I’m not in the medical profession, but have enough knowledge of it in a very diverse city to look askance at this claim. Did NBC News compare an equal number of insured Caucasians to insured African Americans? How about an equal number of uninsured Caucasians to uninsured African Americans? I would guess the disparity lies in the financial realm and has little or nothing to do with “racism” in the medical professions. This is along the lines of the myth that women are more likely to die of heart related illness than men. That often published claim is only true when the study disregards the age at death. Women live longer and often much longer than men. Two years ago my aunt died in a rest home. She was 101. The cause of death was heart failure. Her husband, my uncle died in the 1960’s of a heart attack and her son died at age 51 of a heart attack. If NBC is going to claim statistical studies to push a story they should use all pertinent data.

African-American women and where they stand

Laura in PA — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:26:45 GMT

I was very disturbed at this evenings coverage of African-American women and where they stand. To state that the African-American woman wouldn't receive adequate or close to the same treatment as the white woman left me stunned. I think you should have backed that statement up with some facts instead of one woman's apparant opinion. It's comments like that one that incite racial problems. I suggest you present an analysis of the dietary norms between different cultures. You'll find that heart conditions may be more pronounced in some groups because of how they eat. Lower income familes, whether black or white, do not eat as nutritionally as more affluent families because they simply can't afford it. Then move into the insurance issues. Families without insurance will also receive different treatment irregardless of the color of their skin. I would hope to see you use more discretion in future airings. The words you say are powerful.

African-American women and where they stand

Slugger — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:27:38 GMT

To say in your program Thursday night that black women with heart problems are treated difference from white women has sent a message that will only divide the country along racial lines without any proof that this exists. I have worked in the medical profession. I have never found that blacks were treated any different than whites. My husband was an orthopedic surgeon. He never even recognized there was a color difference in people only differences in diagnosis. Brian Williams has made a statement that I catagorically deny and find offensive to all the people of this country no matter the color. The black people should be as outraged as the white people with heart problems and any other medical problems. NBC you have overstepped the bounds of decent procasting. I do not call for censorship because I belive in freedom of expression. However, people have a right to not tune into your nightly news.

African-American women and where they stand

E,S. Syracuse NY — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:29:03 GMT

I can totally understand how women with a darker pigmament to their skin called African American can fall through the cracks. Doctors see things very narrowed minded. They do not understand a human being is a human being know matter what color of their skin. They see the 1st thing that they can put a stigma too and then you do not get the quality of care. I am considered a white women. I also have the dignosis of Depression and on medicine for it. In this area or from what I have heard from my friend in Israel who would not be considered a white women the stigma of mental illness in many countries you do not get the same quality of care as of those who do not have a psychiatric diagnosis. Whatever a doctor who want to just peg things quickly can stigmatized they will. I have 2x in very big way misdiagnosised because of the sterotype of psychiatric illness and I am a lisenced health professional. However because lousy quality of care I recieved I have lost great deal and now trying to get back on my feet it has happened again. I do not understand why doctors who pigeon hole just because of their prejudice or lack of info or ignorance do not sanction each other . In the end it causes the gov't a great deal of money they wouldn't have to spend when people end up on SSD or trying to get off it and then on. And I believe any person especially women have great deal of potential and should not be treated badly or like they don't deserve the doctors time. There should be special course in medical school and then when they become residents as well. Since collegeges in their own profession do not care maybe there should be committees in each state. I used to be qualified on the job to advocate for people with developmental disablities but off the job I know nothing and look stupid advocating for myself.

Most doctors are very superficial and want a easy and quick diagnosis. Wish t.v. programs showed different part of African American women, Women psychiatric diagnosis or devolpmental disabled.

We are all human beings why isn't that the first thing a doctor sees and thinks to themselves how would I like to be treated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

African-American women and where they stand

Janie Coburn — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:30:31 GMT

When will someone address that there is an inherent responsibility that all of us understand - and it should be without question - the responsibility of the doctor who took the oath. Why don't we address why doctors and nurses treat patients differently? Perhaps we could start there. Perhaps they need to go back to school and try to enter the real world with a new heart. They are the players with the real control. If the doctors and nurses use color to determine the extent of "how much expertise should be expended," no color will ever win. We will all just have to go with the bias/predudice of the "expert" in control.

So much for that oath you all took.

I wish I could hear more challenges being made to those in the medical field, rather than making the person with the illness the person who is supposed to take charge of the world.

Nancy, you know your colleagues need to be challenged. Bite the bullet and take them to the mat.

If all people are not receiving equal care ... that is the fault of the medical experts - not the fault of the patients.

Please don't try to make a challenge for the ill - take someone with you, take notes, do, do, do ... and if the doctor sends you back to the waiting room ... oh, well?

Hello? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that no matter what the patient does, the doctor will win. If you have the money, you can go to another doctor, and then another - and you can just make appointments until you die.

This is America - and we are all free - and all of our doctors (all those doctors who took the oath) can pick and choose where they place their efforts.

Challenge your colleages, Nancy. Take your integrity to the mat.

African-American women and where they stand

Jim S., Richmond, VA — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:34:44 GMT

The report at the end of tonight's broadcast was irresponsible. The tease was that African-American women don't receive the same quality care as their caucasion counterparts. However, there were no facts, or side-by-side comparison to back-up this claim, just one doctor's opinion, with no facts. I was very disappointed.