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Health care: Simple needs, complex solutions

Posted: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:06 PM by Daily Nightly Editor

By Robert Bazell, NBC News Chief science correspondent

If the Obama Administration and Congress attempt to bring America closer to full health care coverage as promised, the conversation inevitably will focus on Massachusetts, the state that has made the boldest effort in the country toward that goal. 

On Nightly News tonight we begin a two-part series on the Massachusetts experiment.  And we must emphasize that it is indeed an experiment.  No one can predict whether it will succeed. But according to a recent Harvard poll, the residents of the state are overwhelmingly satisfied
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As I noted in a report last week on the Obama plans, the details of health care reform can be mind-numbingly complex, but Americans want something simple: freedom from worry that they either lack good health coverage or might lose the coverage they have.

 

The Massachusetts program has already managed to lower the rate of uninsured in the state to 3.3 percent compared to the national average of 16 percent. Since it began two years ago, 440,000 formerly uninsured residents out of a total population of about 6.4 million have gained health care coverage.

 

The program managed to get passed in 2006  because then Republican Governor Mitt Romney and the Democratic legislature worked together to make it happen. It builds on the systems that were already in place, and rests on an concept of "shared responsibility." Employers with more than 10 workers must pay the state about $300 per worker if they don't offer health insurance and residents must pay a fine--up to $900 a year--if they don’t get some kind of health insurance.

 

To make it easier to buy private health insurance, Massachusetts expanded the Medicaid program, which in most places is available only to the poorest of the poor, and to those with low paying jobs on a sliding scale.  Private insurance is easier to buy because of laws in the state standardizing health plans and prohibiting insurance companies  from denying coverage because of preexisting conditions.  Insurance companies are generally supportive of the law because it requires young, healthy people to buy health insurance along with everyone else. As a result, the companies are not just insuring the older, sicker population.

 

In my opinion, the main reason the Massachusetts experiment has succeeded as well as it has is that the Governor and the legislature hammered out the broad outline of the plan and its budget and then left the details to a board called the “Connector”  (http://www.mahealthconnector.org/portal/site/connector/).  The 10-member board has representatives from government, business, labor unions,  insurance and other interests.  Its job is to wade through the swamp of complicated decisions that are necessary to make the program function.  If the Massachusetts government had tried to write every contingency into law, the plan would have failed. Interestingly President-elect Obama and future HHS Secretary Tom Daschle, who will head his health care reform effort, have both called for similar national boards to reform health care nationally. As I said, the details can be mind-numbingly complex.  But the public’s need is very simple.

 

                                           

                           

   Click here to watch the related video report from NBC's Robert Bazell.

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Good for you Bob! It's about time someone looked at Mass. and how its experiment is faring. I look forward to the reports and thank you for taking on the topic. Hopefully it will prompt a thoughtful discussion.
Communism has arrived in America.  The day we allow the government to force "health" care on us is the day we should all say "heil hitler."  the "health" care is not here to help the good people of America, but to continue to rip us off in this recession.  Will the greed ever stop?
The Massachusetts program does seem to be a great success in the two years since its implementation, and should definitely serve as a model for the rest of the nation. However, this report was lacking some basic problems with using the Massachusetts program as a model for the entire nation. For example, the % of uninsured in Massachusetts was just under 10%, one of the lowest in the nation before health insurance was required, while the national level is above 16%. Compare that with the uninsured rate of California, which is at nearly 20%. That state has tried a failed several times to implement a universal health care program of its own. I praise this report for bringing attention to the great steps Massachusetts has taken, but it should also be noted that this type of program will not work everywhere or nationwide--Massachusetts was in a much better place to begin with.
The Massachusetts system is made to sound fair, and great,  but, for those like myself, disabled, with incurable conditions, on a very fixed income(less than 11 thousand a yr), I cannot afford insurance, and I do not qualify for any state or gov't program for healthcare. The "fine" would be a large dent in the income for my family. I am a single parent with two children. I cannot afford health care for myself,I simply do without. All in my position would be Punished for being disabled and having no money.  
I am 62 old woman that had been working part time up until i got sick last Feb.  I ended in the hospital for 7 days & a lot of tests too. I was diagnosed with severe Copd & Emphysema(asthma,ocassional stomach problems & allergies). Sent home with oxygen 24/7, which I am still on. If it wasn't for the new health care system in this state I doubt that I would be writing this to you. The whole USA should have the same system that Massachusetts has for health care, no matter what it takes to get it working.....Now to get Insurance to pay for the portable type oxygen would be fantastic..
how does this plan help the recently unemployed, that can not even make their morgage payments. will they also be fined for not carrying health insurance.
Robert,
I usually enjoy your pieces but you have omitted a very important facet of the mandatory Mass Healthcare equation. I am a small busines person who is not only required to release my personal tax info to  an insurer even after they have recieved my legally drafted Articles of Incorporation(to prove  the existance of my business ) but am also being forced to purchase a prescription drug rider even though my family does not require the use of such drugs. I am perfectly willing to risk the need for such  prescriptions as necessary to reduce my already exorbitant healthcare premiums. As a small business person I am paying almost twice as much for less coverage than my state employed counterpart of whom I am also contributing via my already excessive taxes!
Mr. Bazell, dig a little deeper and you'll find many in MA with medical insurance that cost substantially more than last year and with deductibles so high one can't use it.  Especially single people like me, with no dependents, earning about 29 thousand a year.
I do not qualify for anything, pay about $18.00 more a week for my insurance and have to pay $30 every time I visit my doctor. Which I can't anymore.
For a little background info, I work for The Home Depot and got what is considered a real high pay increase, (.40 cents per hour), which actually adds up to less than my weekly medical insurance premium increase.  So for 2009 my take home paycheck is actually less than last year. Oh, and since my work schedule changes every day/week, I haven't found a second job that would schedule me randomly to accommodate Depot.  And there are quite a few of us in the predicament.  
So go on, dig a little!      
This medical insurance law is a good idea that, from where I’m looking, only benefits Insurance Co. and employers.
This is not my opinion, but my present life.
   
Your coverage of the MA Plan was one-sided, and misrepresented the actual experience of many MA residents.  You did not present the negatives in terms of actual costs exceeding projections by hundreds of millions, and the fact that many MA citizens cannot afford available plans, or the plans they can afford really only cover costs associated with catastrophic illness as the dedeductibles are so high.  Many would question the 3.3% uninsured rate you cite.  Has that figure been verified by credible sources outside of those leading this effort?  Did you know there was a referendum on the ballot in 10 districts in MA this past November asking voters whether they wanted their State legislators to repeal laws fining residents who do not have health insurance and creating a Single Payer system?  Over 70% of the 180,000 votes cast on this question favored a Single Payer option  -- the real answer to achieving affordable, universal health care coverage.  I hope you will use this information as the basis for more fact checking and do a follow-up piece that tells the other side of the story.  Unfortunately, your story could lead viewers and policy makers to conclude that a MA-like plan is the answer to our national health care debacle.  We cannot afford an approach that continues to waste  billions on administrative costs and claims rejections by private companies whose main objective is profit-making.  Read Don McCanne's daily analysis and help guide public opinion in the right direction so that appropriate health care is available to every American.  
I think if they would allow us to buy into the same insurance that our senators and representative's have, it would allow some of us that are uninsurable,to buy insurance at an affordable rate,and not be a drain on the national budget.
Bob, The truth of "universal" health care in Massachusetts is that it is not true. I am one of the only physicians in my area who accepts the state health insurance. I actually pay to provide health care for these individuals. If no doctors accept this insurance, how does it provide health care to anyone? Please tell the truth about this.
All well and good, but as a self-employed individual, insurance costs $1186/month for my family. There's still room for improvement.
That is important experiment. I hope the new administration will take a careful look at the result.
Massachusetts: The end of civilization as we know it.

Gay marriage.
De-criminalized marijuana.
Health insurance for everyone.
Low divorce rate.
Some of the best hospitals in the country.
Some of the best colleges in the country.

God, I hope my state doesn't turn out like that.

I miss George Bush already.

Maybe we can get another very religious person who doesn't care to be informed before going with their gut.

If only we had Sarah Palin.
Previous msnbc.com coverage on the Massachusetts experience is here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20255585/
Succeeded?  Clearly someone is coming with a biased opinion on the definition of success.  Insurance rates are skyrocketing as the result of mandatory policy benefits, the cost of the program is much, much higher than anticipated and MA is already looking costs that the Governor calls "unsustainable".  As the DC Examiner says in a recent article, "To make up the difference, payments to health care providers were slashed, so many doctors and dentists in Massachusetts began refusing to take on new patients. In the state with the highest physician/patient ratio in the nation, some people now have to wait more than a year for a simple physical exam."  Who exactly is happy?
Sure is great. Lets do the math. To make it easy lets use a figure like 100k income. Take home 65K. Privet insurance 12K. Deductibles 3K. Total 15K if you need it of course. That sure looks like 25% of you take home pay. And if your income is 50k  well you can add. How come no one ever talks about this? Great plan!
Robert, I live in Braintree, MAandeveryone I know in Massahchusetts, including talk show hosts, are saying what a total failure and burden to teh residents this Healthcare disaster has been. The only people who are benefitting are Health insurance companies whilce those who can least afford insurance are now being penalized the most. Dump this article...its pure fiction.

Dan Armstrong
Braintree, MA
I am a MA professional in mental health care services.  Many of my clients cannot afford the premiums of their new insurance, nor their prescription co-pays.  They are also finding that many of the new insurance programs don't cover a lot of basic kinds of mental/medical visits/diagnoses.  While this is a step forward with the best of intentions, it is also VERY misleading to the general public in the US.  Important for Mr. Obama and his staff to know.
It's too bad this plan didn't get more attention during the GOP Primaries, as it was something for which Romney should have received more credit.  While he didn't do all of it himself, it was his leadership that got the job done with a Democratic legislature.  The GOP deserves everything that happened to them after letting Huckabee and McCain outshout a more reasonable candidate than Romney.  (Of course, Romney's religion didn't help either, but it shouldn't have hurt him like it did).

Maybe in 2016 Romney will try again...(I'm hoping Obama is successful enough to warrant another term)...and hopefully he will implement some of Massachusetts' (and Romney's) health care plan.
In addition, Massachusetts has among the highest college matriculation rates, highest per capita incomes, and lowest divorce rate in the union. It is clearly not a state that needs any lectures from desperate Republicans. It is no accident that the regions with the highest standards of living (New England and the Pacific Northwest) are run largely by progressive Democrats.
Bob,  you should also look at the failed attempts here in Tennessee, called TennCare.  We need something that for sure is less expensive.  Our company has 18 employees, and writes a check every month for health care of close to $20,000, and not all employees accepted the coverage, as they're covered by their spouse.
Why oh Why does this health care thing have to be so hard?  If they can do it why can't it be done everywhere?   The savings would be so great in the long run if we could have health care for everyone.  I just cannot understand why this has to be so hard to bring about.
I certainly don't know the reimbursement rates for Medicaid in Massachusetts, but if it is anything like that of NJ then most physicians will either choose not to accept it or simply end up going out of business.  My practice would essentially go bankrupt if I were forced to subsist on revenues earned from Medicaid payments. Frankly I couldn't afford to pay my employees and malpractice, never mind everything else.
Insurance Companies are generally supportive because from what I've read, the bulk of the newly insured have gone through Medicaid.  As a result, Medicaid costs have exploded and the state is trying to figure out how to pay for the coverage.
As a resident of Massachusetts I can tell you that this " health care experiment" is nothing short of a disaster.  The following article sums up just a few of the MAJOR issues.. ( And I love when government "experiments" with my (taxpayers) hard earned money)
"Small businesses with more than 10 employees were required to provide health insurance or pay an extra fee to subsidize uninsured low-income residents, yet the overall costs of the program increased more than $400 million – 85 percent higher than original projections. To make up the difference, payments to health care providers were slashed, so many doctors and dentists in Massachusetts began refusing to take on new patients. In the state with the highest physician/patient ratio in the nation, some people now have to wait more than a year for a simple physical exam.

The irony is that Massachusetts officials reluctantly admitted that, despite increased enrollment, the state is still far from universal coverage – the original goal of the landmark law. To make matters worse, Massachusetts is grappling with a multibillion-dollar deficit while Democratic Gov. Deval Patrick desperately tries to slow down those still-spiraling health care costs, which he said last week were “not sustainable.”

If this sounds just like Canadian-style socialized medicine, that’s because it is. We Massachusetts residents now pay more for less access to health care, yet our state still has an uninsured problem!

And this is just the tip of the iceburg folks...
Massachusetts also has a refreshing approach to the homeless. If we don't take care of our poor, who will. WHEN we do, we return to the greatest country on the planet, and can begin to address the planets issues.
Its not working in mass.  I don't know what statistics you are using or what group of people are taking the test but everyone I know hates it.  Forcing someone to pay for health insurance is ridiculous, and this was only done because this state is full of profiteering politicians and dishonest "public servants" who probably took money from the insurance companies to come up with this.  It also increased the prices of insurance for every person except the few people who are getting it because they are below the poverty line.  Sorry, I am not a socialist, but this does not help the majority of the people.
What a joke...  Funny that this article doesn't mention that Mass has the highest health care costs BY FAR... or that 2/3rds of the " Newly insureds " are getting FREE Insurance because it's so unaffordable and bankrupting the program.  AKA Insurance Welfare... or our 20% per year increases.  Sound Good America?  
What media hype!  TennCare (TN's version) was touted for several years as a success (with some suggesting it be a roll-model for national universal care too).  It got so underfunded they had to cut the plan down.

MA's plan is barely two years old.  The bills have not had time to come home to roost.  It needs at least five years before medals are handed out.

Additionally, MA has a population/culture that is different from much of the US and the costs will be different as well.

The US already has 50+ Billion in unfunded Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security promises. The states are in heavy debt too.  Bush/Obama has already (or wants to) add several Trillion $ to the national debt in the last 8 months alone.  Now is not the time to kid ourselves that we can afford to make more promises.

The US needs to grow up and face the harsh realities rushing at us...not add liabilities and more debt to foreigners.  We need to save more than 1% (how do those poor Chinese manage to save 35%?).

HT
MAssachusetts Experiment is essentially a failure. Physicians cannot afford to accept the rates offered by the "Connector", employees cannot afford to buy it and the coverage that it offers is spotty and insufficient. Employers have an impossible administrative and financial burden of submitting quarterly (!) reports to the state and to track changing eligibility criteria. Most employees that initially got insurance through this plan, now gave it up because it is still costly and ineffective.
The real measurement is how it reduced medical insurence cost. Because author "forget" to mention it - probably they have big increase instead of drop. Romny did his best to accomodate inavitable in the most liberal state, but wisely refused to be easily re-elected, and with a good reason - MA state is a big bad bancrupt now, and it is even before the end of special Federal dotations, assigned for this experiment.
Bob:  I hope that in one of the two parts you talk about the cost.  My understanding is that the costs are significantly higher than projected and state is struggling with how to pay for it.  I suspect the residents will be less satisfied when they see the real cost and either their co-pay or their taxes go up.
As someone from Mass I can say this experiment is a joke. Insurance costs have not dropped, instead people have to pay a fine dirrectly out of their paycheck as punishment for not affording insurance. Meanwhile companies offer a plan at a rate far higher than most private insurance companies so that they can avoid paying penalties for not offering it while also not having to deal with providing any insurance to their employees.

Also lets not forget that if you are not insured due to such issues as lack of funding because of a low paying job then you are not allowed to attend public schools. That means gaining a college degree to advance your career and hopefully earn enough to afford insurance is out of the question. And the expanding limits for the state funded insurance (MassHealth) only broadened enough to cover those who have recently lost jobs to the failing economy. Those who are underemployed and living paycheck to paycheck are still left out in the cold.

As a resident of Massachussetts, I can say the health care system isn't all its cracked up to be. I could vent for hours, but I am unsure if Massachussetts is to blame or Blue Cross Blue Shield is. Many doctors here do not accept insurance plans, and the ones that do are so flooded with patients that I wish you the best of luck finding care in under 3 months.I have considered traveling out of state to see a doctor on more than one occasion, and this is coming from somebody who does not own a car.
We desperately need a cure for health care in America, or at least what is considered the acceptable standards of health care on record in East Tennessee. Google wisecountyissues.com and see what I am talking about...
Some things that are not talked about is the fact that this is a huge burden on the state budget.  Also that you are basically fined if you chose not to get insurance.  So much for freedom.
Great report - the richest and greatest nation on earth should be able to provide health coverage for its citizens without people having to lose everything. Likewise Doctors should be helped with malpractice insurance and Medical school costs -    
medicaid can pay 15 dollars for an office visit, can anyone afford to practice medicine on that. I hope the plans will pay like medicare instead of medicaid
I don't agree with forced health care and that is what they are talking about here. Americans should not be forced to buy insurance of any kind, they should choose to do so. The way the government could help would be not to be beholden to the insurance companies through lobbyist, regulate the companies and let compitition work.
Wake up people, it isn't working here in Mass.  All it's done here is unexpectedly double the size of the medicaid program and give more free health care to those who chose not to work.  One way or the other it all still comes out of our tax dollars here, so whether they go to the ER for uninsured care or they use Medicaid...I'm still paying for it.  Why do you think they call it Taxachusetts??
Oh poor Dan.  Im sooooo tired of hearing cry baby doctors say how they aren't making any money.  Learn how to run a business, and don't blame medicaid for your short comings.  Most often times doctors don't have any idea how to run a busines.  You put unskilled individuals in charge of some of the most important aspects of the business like billing and managing.  Given the state of healthcare one would think you would be open minded and not crying like a big buffoon.
People are leaving MA in droves to escape the great programs!
Mandatory health insurance?  I thought the idea was to make insurance available/affordable to every American who wanted it, not force everyone to buy something they don't feel they want or need, and in some cases couldn't afford if it only cost $10 a month.  And yes, everything comes with a price tag. The states which currently provide the most health care are also the ones with the largest budget deficits.....which we will all be bailing out if Obama's $800 Billion "stimulus" package is approved.  
I'm a primary care physician coming from the military.  The Mass model corrects 1/2 the problem.  It does provide health care for hospital and emergent care.  The problem with Mass Health or similar plans is identical to medicaid and medicare, it pays little $ to the doctors seeing them, does not cover preventive services(physicals, screening tests) and the amount of paperwork to get simple medications is too much.  And what makes this more frustrating is that the people typically with these insurances are the people with the worst lifestyles and highest expectations.  But solving 1/2 the problem is a start.  My solution for the other 1/2 is cover preventive exams every 2 years and charge co-pays on office and er visits
I think the Mass. plan is missing the mark...we need to illiminate insurance companies from health care altogether. They are just middle men siphoning money out of the system and driving up health care costs. We need a govt paid for plan like the rest of  the developed countries in the world have. Just because something is govt run doesnt mean its bad. Look at our police and fire depts and also public schools. And  we can get the money we need to pay for it by cutting the military budget. Also govt paid for health care would be a great relief for individuals as well as small and large companies thaat wont have to foot the bill.
And last I knew, this program was subsidized by the Federal Government to the tune of hundreds of millions. They tried this in Kentucky, guess what, BC/BS went to two thousand a month.

The myth of the uninsured is just that, a myth. Sure there are a few people that fall the cracks, but you do not want Federally run health care. We help poor people with Medicaid. Leave it up to competition, competition, is and always will be the answer.
I live in Massachusetts (also known as Taxachusetts), and our dear state has solved *nothing*.   What the state legislature has done, is develop a way to fine people who can't afford health insurance, but do not want the extremely poor quality health care offered by the state.  let's ask ourselves:  when has a government, state or otherwise EVER offered anything of competitive quality?   Anyone?  

Massachusetts provided no solution.  It has only provided a way to force people to take something of poor quality, and that extremely few physicians will accept, or pay a fine (a tax).   Isn't that a great thing?  

If I lose my health insurance, Im out of here: New Hampshire here we come.  
The whole things needs overhauling from top to bottom. Sure the Mass. idea is much more than anyone else is doing, but I believe it's doomed to failure under the current system. First and foremost, insurance companies need to just go away. They are the deepest root of the problem. Second, we must reign in prescription drug cost, and lastly reorganize the health care model. One that needs to include everyone from the cardio-thoracic surgeon to the EMT on the ambulance. Where the system works just as hard at keeping people healthy and out of hospital emergency rooms as it does on finding a cure for cancer. Idealistic? Yes. Possible? If the government (read "politicians") ever gets bold enough to shun all of the campaign money received from big insurance and drug companies and the American public finally realize that national health care for everyone will only improve our way of life as a whole. I know it sounds socialist (and maybe it is, but I am most definitely NOT a socialist or even a liberal for that matter), but after having spent 20 years in the health care industry I have come to realize that this is the only possible solution to an absolutely horrible situation. Medicare is an excellent model to begin with. It at least provides a proven framework from which to start. But alas, all I see in the future is more political rhetoric and insurance companies making more money. Don't worry about the working class that get absolutely no help paying for the much needed insurance that they can't afford to pay for, but can't risk being with out.
Robert,
The Massachusetts plan is a faulted plan. How much money has the Government, (our tax dollars), poured into the plan and it still has not been successfull.
Hey, lets model the American system like Canada's or any other failed system- great idea right!


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