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Mortgages ARE out there. And so are bargains.

Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:26 PM by Daily Nightly Editor
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By Michelle Kosinski, NBC Correspondent


Image: Michelle KosinskiDriving around foreclosure-riddled southwest Florida, we couldn't believe our eyes.  The prices! Were those typos?

 

Funny, that's exactly how we felt three years ago about real estate in Florida.  Only, for the exact opposite reason.

 

Today, homes that would have sold--and did sell--in the high $200,000 range in 2005 are being sold off by banks for $50,000 or $60,000.  We found four-bedroom, never-lived-in homes for $80,000.  Generally, when you look at what the peak value was for a particular house in this area, you can subtract $200,000 now.

 

Yes, this is partially a very sad story. For many of those thousands of foreclosures, there is a family that bit off more of a mortgage than they could digest, and were forced out. One listing mentioned that the original family would like to rent the home back from the new buyer, if possible. One bidder, a 24-year old student who never dreamed she'd be able to afford a home now, felt guilty. 

 

But, if there is any good to be found in this dismal situation, it is the return of something that hasn't lived in these former boomtowns for a long, long time:  affordability.

 

It is causing a bit of a "gold rush" -- homeowners are battling one another, cash buyers, and investors for these bargains.  Houses are going for below replacement cost.  The first day it hits the listings, a home can get a dozen bids.

 

Potential first-time buyers are stunned to find that getting the mortgage was NOT the hard part-- but finding a home that doesn't already have several offers pending on it is.

 

Kelly Francis, the 24-year-old student, says,  "I just thought we were going to have a whole bunch of them, we were going to take a long time to decide, but it's the other way around.  These houses that are coming up, they're being snatched right away!"

 

Home prices have dropped across the country.  Most dramatically, in the onetime boomtowns.  As a result, sales are up, and so are first-time mortgages from FHA.

 

Lenders are being more careful--  Kelly found that her bank was calling references and asking for documentation of her finances.  Luckily, she has good credit.

 

Zero-down mortgages are almost nonexistent.  But they ARE out there for specially qualifying buyers, or those who are eligible for bond money in certain areas that need a boost.

 

FHA loans, as of this month, now require 3.5 percent down, up from three percent.

 

But the sheer exhilaration of homeowners who are securing the financing to land these rare deals is contagious.  These are the people who are bringing life back to neighborhoods marred by boarded-up foreclosures with overgrown lawns.  They will be the new faces of responsible lending, and recovery.

 

As Realtor Bill Mitchell (who runs a foreclosure bus tour) put it, "everyone was priced out of the market!  The police officers, the firefighters, the EMS, the teachers--your people that you need, as your essential workers here.  And that's what really nice.  It's letting them come back in.  And stop renting, so they can get a home."

 

Brett Ellis, with RE/MAX, has been swamped with all this new buying in a market that has seen extreme highs and lows. Three years ago, Lee County, Florida, was named the hottest real estate market in the country.  In January, it had the highest rate of foreclosure in the country.

 

"It's nice to see a neighborhood improved," he says.  "and people getting their dream again."

 

To see a hardworking couple walk into their new home they could not previously afford in Florida, twice the size but tens of thousands of dollars less than the one they just sold in Connecticut, and actually jump up and down for joy...priceless.

 

 

 

 

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If a never-lived-in house that was worth $250K a few years ago is now selling for $80K and lived-in houses are selling for less why doesn't the bank or mortgage holder resell the houses to the current occupant at the lower rate?

The current occupant has been making payments for a house priced at $200K can make payments to the bank for the same house now worth $50K.

The current occupant will have to move out and pay rent to someone else so why not make it a house payment to the bank?  The bank gets one unsold house off the books and the homeowner gets to keep and maintain the house.  Everyone wins except those who lose their commission from a 200K to a 50K sale.
I'm glad to hear that someone is winning in this debacle.  I hope that each person who buys a repossessed home takes the time to savor that home and learn from the previous owners' mistakes!  Congratulations!
Mr. Williams,

I remember a few years ago when yo came down to Houston, Texas to talk to our local news anchors. You said their job is to report the local news to the best of their abilities and your job is to report to national news to the best of your ability. I remember thinking very highly of you. Over the past several weeks that fondness has changed. I see that you are just like the rest of the media. It isn't about reporting the national news; it is about doing your part to push Obama on America. I would venture to say that most Americans didn't have a clue about who Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac were up until very recently. Instead of stating as such you guys push it as McCain insulting that young man's intelligence. Simply apalling. I have seen it too many times recently and I had hoped you were above the rhetoric. I am disappointed to find out you are not.

My wife and I are interested in purchasing a home in the area.  We would appreciate any information that you have that will assit us.
If you are wanting more information on the available foreclosures in Lee County and would like to talk with Marc Joseph from Foreclosure Tours R Us who was featured in this peice, please feel free to contact 239-939-1145 or www.ForeclosureToursRUs.com .
I was listening to the broadcast but somehow I missed the name of the locale in the southwest portion of Florida. Please reply
This all sounds so fantastic - at least to the people who are purchasing these foreclosed homes.  However, I have questions....

1.  Is the previous owner (on whom the bank foreclosed) being given the first opportunity to re-buy the home?

2.  What about the property taxes?  Will the new home owners be paying taxes on the old or new, devalued price of the home?  If property taxes drop to the new tax appraised value of the home, just imagine where this is headed...less revenue for the state to build and improve roads, less money for schools, salaries, police protection...goes on and on.
This foreclosure tour company is well worth the ride.  I purchased a home from Marc Joseph Realty Inc
Most of these buyers quit making the payments.  I too believe the banks should do more workouts, but the banks haven't always been thinking properly.  Had the banks properly trained their staffs, they would do more short sales and lose less money than a full foreclosure.

It is sad, but I'm happy to see new homeowners buy their first house and find affordability even though someone else had to lose one.  Many times it was an investor who never lived in the home, and that's not as sad as a displaced homeowner.
Does anyone remember what city they talked about in this segment? I thought they said Coral Springs but I could wrong.
The number one statement I receive on a daily basis from buyers is, "I am wating for a GREAT DEAL!"  Your report indicates what those of us in Cape Coral, Florida have known for many months now.  The great deals are here NOW and may not last very long.

We are experiencing a large number of "B.R.C (Below Replacement Cost) Properties" currently for sale in the market place.  Any time you can buy a home below the cost of building a new one, that sure would seem to qualify as a great deal.  

The proof is in the fact that in September of 2008 the City of Cape Coral issued only 7 new home permits.  Buyers are able to buy new and near new homes for substantially less than the cost of building a home.  

Cape Coral foreclosures and short sales are abundant, but sales are increasing rapidly.  If you are in the market for a great deal, do your home work, know what you are buying and capitalize on the opportunity before it is too late.
Why is it that the banks keep so many people waiting in some cases for months?  The banks should be happy to get reasonable bids for this, almost always, handyman special, homes.  The banks and Wall Street is out of control, please somebody do something to help the "average American."
I think the situation is sad.  People are out here just like myself who really wanted and tried to keep their home by asking mortgage companies to re-negotiate their mortgages with no success.  If the prices can go down so drastically for homes on the market, why couldn't the same happen for existing homeowners experiencing difficulties?  Probably the economy wouldn't be as bad as it now.
If a person is interested in buying one of these homes in Florida, do you provide a website or do you have other information that help someone learn more about buying one of the homes?
WOW!  A nice house for $50-$60k - fantastic. Now people can use thier downpaymeent money to pay off the house completely, perfect.
In regards to the comment on why the banks don't resell the homes back to the original borrower....

Lee County Florida, more so than any other area in the country, was caught up in mortgage fraud. People were buying homes to flip. When the same basic house rose in price from $130k to $300k, the bubble burst. The bubble was created on pure speculation. The number of homes that were built far exceeded the population growth there, and the escalation in price far exceeded the growth in personal incomes.

So, in order to answer the question, the people who bought the homes have no desire to buy them at a reduced price. Their credit has exploded, they only bought the home looking to flip it quickly, and they are unable and unwilling to buy.
This is the bottom and prices will soon reflect a rebound toward what it cost to build a home instead of a bubble bursted bottom. A 50% rise in a year would still leave properties 50% of there highs.Now is the time to invest at bargain prices for less then in would cost to build.
Michelle,

Great piece.  You mentioned that sales were up 80% in Lee County.  What is the source of that statistic?
sad , but true.  all of this began over 10 years ago when your elected officials in DC decided that everybody and anybody who wanted to own a home should get a mortgage.  whether you like it or not, there are just some people who cannot handle the responsibility of owning and PAYING FOR a home of their own. they should be renters.  also put some blame on the bankers, real estate agents, mortgage brokers, etc. who went for the quick and easy bucks.  DO NOT think that this all just popped up.  10 years ago!!! think who was in DC then before you start blaming the current officials so harshly.

Would someone please show me how to find these homes that are shown? How can I go about finding a 4 bdrm house for $85k?
That Cook Co. Sheriff is my Hero, He wont do some forclosures. If you have ever watched kids come home from school and see the Boy Scouts, of all people, Helping to carry their belonings to the curb, Daddy just slit his wrists, the Sheriff and ambulance is their, it's a nightmare, and the children are caught up in it, Mike, Florida  (Indiana Born and Bread,DTOM)
The homes that are being foreclosed on now are not selling mostly to first time homebuyers.  They are being bought up by wealthy investors who can afford to hang on to them until they can force the prices up again.
Wealthy investors get bailed out, not mortgage holders!  If the government bails them out and they loose, the government wins.  How long before there is no private ownership, except for the very rich?  Isn't this like commnism?  Duh?


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