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Different Times

Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:41 PM by Barbara Raab
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By Brian Williams, Anchor and managing editor

So, in this space yesterday, I had a little fun with the New York Times. I hope it's obvious to our frequent readers that the Times’s news pages are normally my first journalistic stop every morning -- for all the arguments over ideology, the paper's depth and breadth are often without parallel. In fact, it is quoted here more than any other publication, for good reason.

A few of you correctly noted I’ve yet to respond to the recent Times front-page article on the military analysts employed by the television networks, including this one.

I read the article with great interest. I've worked with two men since I've had this job -- both retired, heavily-decorated U.S. Army four-star Generals -- Wayne Downing and Barry McCaffrey. As I'm sure is obvious to even a casual viewer, I quickly entered into a close friendship with both men. I wish Wayne were alive today to respond to the article himself.

I made four trips to Iraq with Wayne. We were together, in close quarters, for over two months at the start of the war and survived at least one harrowing adventure. I won't attempt to respond on Wayne’s behalf, and I know Barry McCaffrey has his own response to the article.

All I can say is this: these two guys never gave what I considered to be the party line. They were tough, honest critics of the U.S. military effort in Iraq. If you've had any exposure to retired officers of that rank (and we've not had any five-star Generals in the modern era) then you know: these men are passionate patriots. In my dealings with them, they were also honest brokers. I knew full well whenever either man went on a fact-finding mission or went for high-level briefings. They never came back spun, and never attempted a conversion. They are warriors-turned-analysts, not lobbyists or politicians.

As far as Wayne was concerned, he was an NBC News employee, and while he would never do anything to diminish his decades of extraordinary service (nor would we expect him to), we all marveled at how quickly he took to the notion of being a journalist -- taking a good, hard, critical look at the Pentagon as an entity, the way "analysts" do.

And about General McCaffrey: I was among those who fielded complaint calls -- from the Pentagon, from the White House, from the highest levels of the Administration -- protesting his harsh criticism of the Rumsfeld Pentagon and the war effort. General Downing and I (during some unscheduled "down time" in the Iraqi desert at the height of the invasion) watched the U.S. military supply line in the distance, driving through the darkness, undefended. Because he viewed it as a result of fighting the "war on the cheap," he was infuriated by it, and said so. General McCaffrey's criticisms were too numerous to mention, but here’s a particular favorite from Nightly News on August 3, 2006:

"Well, I think some of the debate over civil war is absolutely nonsense. It's been a civil war for a couple of years. Thousands are being killed and wounded. It is clearly a struggle between the Shia, the Sunni and to some extent the Kurds. Secretary Rumsfeld, in my judgment, is increasingly going to become irrelevant to this debate. The ambassador on the ground, Khalilzad, General George Casey, General John Abizaid and the White House are going to have to sort this out. It's a very bad situation, and it's getting worse."

Another man deserves mention here: Jack Jacobs is a familiar face to MSNBC and NBC News audiences. We have employed Jack as an analyst for years. He is also a personal friend. Most important: he's among 105 living recipients of the Medal of Honor. I serve on the Board of the Medal of Honor Foundation -- our job is to raise awareness and funds for the recipients, as I've done rather unabashedly in this space over the past two years. Jack, a retired U.S. Army Colonel, travels often to embark on tours of the combat zone, and I've always regarded his analysis as rock-solid... and he has never hesitated to take a whack at the Pentagon brass.

I think it's fair, of course, to hold us to account for the military analysts we employ, inasmuch as we can ever fully know the "off-duty" actions of anyone employed on an "of counsel" basis by us. I can only account for the men I know best. The Times article was about the whole lot of them -- including instances involving other networks and other experts, who can answer for themselves. At no time did our analysts, on my watch or to my knowledge, attempt to push a rosy Pentagon agenda before our viewers. I think they are better men than that, and I believe our news division is better than that.

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Nice try, Brian.  But you're still a right wing, Pentagon stooge.
Good Evening Mr.Williams, First of all I hope you are having a wonderful day. I was reading through some of the comments from last evenings post of Daily Nightly and some of them were quite harsh. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion and I would never attack anyone elses viewpoint. But I just want to say that I think you do an excellent job at being a Managing Editor and Anchor of Nightly News. I always enjoy reading and commenting on your Daily Nightly posts and I know that you write these posts. Regarding General McCaffrey, Jack Jacobs and General Wayne Downing, they all gave good tough criticism of the Pentagon and the war effort. I agree with you that I wish General Downing were still around today. And I agree with you that they never pushed a "rosy Pentagon agenda" as you stated. Your news division does a great job! I will always be a loyal viewer! I look forward to the broadcast this evening. All your correspondents do an excellent job! And thank you Barbara Raab for your hard work and posting Mr.Williams Daily Nightly posts! I just wanted to spread a little sunshine out to you Mr.Williams! Keep up the great work! Peace to you and to all!

Lots of Love to Laurel,Jackie and Stephanie!
Be well Ladies!    
Sir,  

Were your questions to these Generals designed to elicit any sort of truly critical responses?  Just wondering.
You didn't know?  It was reported five years ago.

From The Nation, April 21, 2003:

McCaffrey and his NBC colleague Col. Wayne Downing, who reports nightly from Kuwait, are both on the advisory board of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, a Washington-based lobbying group formed last October to bolster public support for a war. Its stated mission is to "engage in educational advocacy efforts to mobilize US and international support for policies aimed at ending the aggression of Saddam Hussein," and among its targets are the US and European media. The group is chaired by Bruce Jackson, former vice president of defense giant Lockheed Martin (manufacturer of the F-117 Nighthawk, the F-16 Fighting Falcon and other aircraft in use in Iraq), and includes such neocon luminaries as former Defense Policy Board chair Richard Perle. Downing has also served as an unpaid lobbyist and adviser to the Iraqi National Congress, an Administration-backed (and bankrolled) opposition group that stands to profit from regime change in Iraq.

NBC News has yet to disclose those or other involvements that give McCaffrey a vested interest in Operation Iraqi Freedom. McCaffrey, who commanded an infantry division in the Gulf War, is now on the board of Mitretek, Veritas Capital and two Veritas companies, Raytheon Aerospace and Integrated Defense Technologies--all of which have multimillion-dollar government defense contracts. Despite that, IDT is floundering--its stock price has fallen by half since March 2002--a situation that one stock analyst says war could remedy. Since IDT is a specialist in tank upgrades, the company stands to benefit significantly from a massive ground war. McCaffrey has recently emerged as the most outspoken military critic of Rumsfeld's approach to the war, but his primary complaint is that "armor and artillery don't count" enough. In McCaffrey's recent MSNBC commentary, he exclaimed enthusiastically, "Thank God for the Abrams tank and... the Bradley fighting vehicle," and added for good measure that the "war isn't over until we've got a tank sitting on top of Saddam's bunker." In March alone, IDT received more than $14 million worth of contracts relating to Abrams and Bradley machinery parts and support hardware.

"TV's Conflicted Experts"

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030421/interns

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Just saying.
You rock Brian!  Don't let the jerks get you down.  I appreciate your even look at all the news every night and read with great delight your posts when you inject some of your great humor into them.  Thanks for coming into my house every evening!
I'm glad to see you've stopped ignoring this important story, Mr. Williams, but your comments leave too many questions unanswered. Viewers deserve to know whether NBC, by using these military analysts, was providing objective information about the war.

1. What did NBC do to ensure there were no conflicts of interest with its military analysts? Did NBC check to see if the analysts were working for defense industry corporations that could profit from the war? Did the analysts themselves profit from the war?

2. In addition to tactical analysis, did the consultants offer any opinions about the "rightness" of the war that were similar to what the administration was saying? Were those comments challenged by NBC or by anti-war consultants?

4. Has NBC done an audit of its war coverage and its use of military analysts? What were the results?

5. What will NBC do to be sure viewers will receive truly objective analysis in the future?

This is your responsibility as well, Mr. Williams, and your viewers deserve a thorough answer.
Oh, no another case of he said/she said/what said/who said.    Sounds like a Dr. Seuss book!  This right wing/left wing non-sense is for the birds!    

@ lnp:  Grand Poohbab! (Chuckles!) Everytime I hear that term I think of a sunami wrestler.  Don't ask me why?   I'll surrender to Lisa.  She won the award from the Huffington Post.   I'm a newbie here.

@ Lisa:  Congratulations on your mention in the Huffington Post!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/18/richard-engel-named-nbc-n_n_97411.html
Your testaments to the character and probity of Gens. Downing and McCaffrey notwithstanding, your and the other networks ignored this story utterly. As you responded here, someone could have responded to the NY Times story on the air, if only you had reported it on the nightly news.
How many anti-war people does NBC News employed on an "of counsel" basis? You know, those people who doubted the WMD evidence, who thought UN inspections were working, who thought we should have a plan for after the invasion, and have never been employed by the Pentagon? You know, the people who were right.  Do you have any on staff? It would be nice to hear from people who demand hard evidence (rather than just administration say so) about future conflicts such as Iran.  Can you name one?
Hi Brian
I'm a person who judges an individual myself, not by who likes them. I've noticed over the 6 years of chaos in the US that some people will go one side then another. I've seen Generals support Bush, then they tell the truth and their fired. Each Bush appointee is said to be the best until he disagrees with the White House propaganda.  I'm have little faith in the award Pulitzer winners after the actions of Judy Miller and Chuck Philips. So many people aren't really who they say they are.

What can I say about our US problems. President Bush is the Boy Who Cried Wolf. No one can believe a word he says. Now he's blaming the Democrats for the gas prices, while his policies give the oil companies big breaks/big profits. I guess we are to forget the Republican controlled Congress that gave Bush/Cheney blank checks to spend. With all the corruption in the White House, Pentagon and Contractors I just surprised Bush didn't say Bill Clinton was at fault for this mess. I will admit the White House does a great job at spinning the news. While the Media is reporting about the weather, food prices, home foreclosures and who Roger Clements dated.  The Law makers and White House are very busy pushing out the money, contract, selective prosecutions and as much crime as possible while no one watching. To hear Bush talk he's been away on the planet K-Pax for 6 years.

People should respect each others choice of political party, religion, race and culture. Just let the political process continue and make your choice. I do feel bad for the voters without ID's. It reminds me of those who couldn't vote because of their color. Funny think about Evil it just seems to never win in the End.

As for that famous rebate check I decided to get the box for the TV that we will need.

See you this evening

To my friends Lisa, Laural and Stephanie

Stephanie I don't live in the area that was on fire but thanks for thinking about me.
Tuesday night's 4/29 story about the wounded vet who thinks the greatest injustice of the media is the media not sharing how many military are wounded (rather than focusing on the dead). Brian, I am disappointed that you ended the segment with thanks for his service and STILL not stating the number wounded. You did that gentleman a disservice.
Make it better, tomorrow night, please
I never expected the generals, or any experts in the fields you have as contributors, to totally reveal what they know.  

The generals knows secrets they will never reveal regardless of what their new employers say.  They first took an oath to protect this country and they were told things if now revealed will harm this country.

All the experts, if competent, knows secrets that makes them experts and they will keep the secrets secret.

Brian, if you were to switch networks and your new employer were to ask you to reveal what you know about the package you received from the Virginia Tech shooter you won't do it.

There are things that will never be known except by the ones holding the secrets and that's they way it must be.  The generals may withhold information they believe would violate their oaths but by the same token I don't expect them to lie to the viewers.

Withholding information by not commenting is one thing, outright lying is not acceptable.  I trust you, you trust them and by extension so do I.
How many anti-war people does NBC News employed on an "of counsel" basis? You know, those people who doubted the WMD evidence, who thought UN inspections were working, who thought we should have a plan for after the invasion, and have never been employed by the Pentagon? You know, the people who were right.  Do you have any on staff? It would be nice to hear from people who demand hard evidence (rather than just administration say so) about future conflicts such as Iran.  Can you name one?
Brian:

You are (purposefully?) missing the point of the New York Times article.

The point is not whether the analysts in the employ of or of council to NBC (and other news organizations) were good guys or good friends of yours or even military heroes. And the point is not the degree to which those analysts were or were not critical of the war effort.

Instead, the point is whether NBC conspired (wittingly or no) to spread government propaganda. As such, NBC viewers deserve answers to the following questions:

1) The Times article details Downing and McCaffrey's extensive and readily apparent conflicts of interest. Who at NBC knew about these conflicts?

2) In fact, former NBC analyst Ken Allard charges that no one at the networks asked about the outside business interests and other potential conflicts held by their military analysts. Is that accurate? To what extent did NBC examine and consider the potential conflicts of its analysts?

3) Assuming that NBC was aware of the conflicts, why weren't they disclosed to viewers?

4) Again, assuming that NBC was aware of the conflicts, why, in light of them, did NBC think that these analysts could comment on the war situation in an unbiased fashion?

5) Were there any internal discussions at NBC about these analysts' conflicts and whether or not those conflicts would jeopardize even the appearance of those analysts' objectivity?

6) NBC military analyst Rick Francona told the Times that he didn't think that NBC was aware that he and other analysts were participating in the frequent and extensive briefings from the Pentagon. Is he correct, or was NBC aware?

7) If NBC was aware of those briefings, did NBC ever question the nature of those briefings and the extent to which its analysts' on-air opinions were being swayed by them?

8) Allard charges that networks such as NBC did not object when the Pentagon began paying for commercial airfare of the analysts' trips to Iraq. Did any NBC analyst have his trip to Iraq paid for by the Pentagon?

9) If so, when did NBC become aware that the Pentagon was paying for these flights?

10) Does NBC have any policy on sources (government or otherwise) paying for trips taken by its analysts?

11) Allard essentially argues -- as does the article -- that Pentagon briefings and Iraq tours were essentially propaganda efforts. The analysts were being spun so that they -- as supposedly unbiased experts -- could then spin the American public. When did NBC realize that it was part of a broad propaganda effort?

12) What steps has NBC taken, if any, to address the problems highlighted in the article?

One other thing, Brian:

Who paid for the trips that you and Wayne Downing took to Iraq: NBC or the Pentagon?
"I think they are better men than that, and I believe our news division is better than that."

Actually, Brian, no, they aren't, and no, it isn't.
That's why network news has lost a million viewers a year for the last twenty-five years.
It is not reasonable to expect someone like Brian Williams to be critical of his management.  Although a bit less rah-rah would be nice.

Whatever Brian Williams' opinion about this guy or that guy, the fact remains that the US Government was doing the following:

a. employing people to push their agenda, including getting together in a group to decide on the latest message and coordinating dissemination of that information as widely as possible, and
b. Doing this while pretending to be independent and unbiased experts.

This may be illegal; it is unquestionably propaganda.  It is not what Americans deserve from those whose job is to inform.

Americans are grown up enough to weigh our options, but please do not put such a heavy thumb on the scales.
Hi Brian,
Good story on the wound warrior project.  But why did you not get into more of the wounded numbers which is at least 100 times the dead.
When people ask me my take on the 4000 I tell them there are alot more wounded, physically and mentally.  In fact I would say just about all are mental effected for a year or two.

I was strange for a year or two after my tour in Vietnam.  fortunately I was able to see the forest and made some decisions along the way to get out of the mental wounds.  BTW  I turned down a purple heart because really physically wounded warriors deserve that medal,  I only had smaller physical wounds I still have both legs,arms, eyes and balls.

best wishes,
Brain

Tonight your choice to lead the broadcast with the economy and gas prices over the Rev. Wright story is exactly why I choose to watch NBC Nightly News every evening.  The economy is after all, shown in the poles, to be the number one issue the American people think is important, and it deserves to be the lead story in the News broadcast every night (which I notice is what you have been doing lately) instead of tabloid, got you, guilt by association stories that other networks seem to love running.  And tonight focusing on the ever increasing gas prices and what the presidential candidates plan on doing about it, and what the current president has failed to do, was well produce and informative.  Nice work tonight Brian, keep showing those other networks what real journalism looks like.  
Good Evening Mr.Williams, Beginning the broadcast with the troubled economy gives one a sense of real hard times for everyone. President Bush speaking in the Rose Garden about how he understands that Americans are anxious is fine, but the solutions he provides concerning building more oil refineries will take time. His statement of not being able to "wave a magic wand" to make the price of gas fall is an understatement. Of course, Americans know it won't be fixed instantly or overnight, but there should be a light at the end of the tunnel to show some hope of a decrease. I spoke with someone just today and she complained about how much it costs to fill up the gas tank. She said it is really ridiculous and hopes it will come down soon. The report by Anne Thompson concerning ethanol made from corn and its use for fuel was interesting, but troubling because the corn is used to feed people and animals. The chickens, cattle and hogs have to be given the feed in order to supply food for people. Everything supports something else and if one thing falls apart the whole process collapses. Hopefully, there will be a way to balance out the need for corn in both uses of food and fuel. The report by Mr.Costello about the Acela train from Amtrak showed how train travel could become more popular considering all the hassles of flying and the high cost of gas. The system does need to be overhauled though because of the age of the tracks, yet the convenience is very good. The speed of 150mph is great for the Boston to New York route and 135mph for other routes. I can understand the engineer's point of not wanting to hit the curve of track at 150mph and reduce to 80mph. That would be too dangerous. Maybe, the train will become more popular for travel. Time will tell. Finally, I enjoyed your interview with John Fernandez. He served his country well and is a brave and dedicated soldier. After losing the lower parts of his legs in the war in Iraq he fought back and showed remarkable recovery. It is great he remains active in sports and his Wounded Warrior Project will help many veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. All of the wounded soldiers should receive the best treatment and never be forgotten. We should honor all our soldiers. God Bless all out troops. Thank you for the broadcast Mr.Williams. Peace to you and to all!
Lots of Love to Laurel,Jackie and Stephanie!
Be Well Ladies!
Wow, criticizing how well the war is being waged?  Tactics and strategy differences!  Brian Williams presents that as the extent of "criticism" these "analysts" delivered before his cameras?  It's fairly obvious Mr. Williams hasn't even have an understanding of the very serious allegations made by the New York Times article.  That attempt to respond to this story speaks volumes all by itself about the degenerate worthless state of NBC News.
Mr. Williams,

I didn't read the article form yesterday in its entirety, but it seemed somewhat bias in my opinion, and I think the next time you provide a link, it should be more down the line (but its your blog, and obviously you do with it what you like). I read one of the comments from yesterday questioning your qualifications to criticize a newspaper when you have never worked for one. I think its only fair to point out that anyone, and everyone, criticizes everything else, and that certain qualifications only make the criticism possibly more justified. I didn't realize so many people read the nightly news blog, so at least theres a silver lining there! I will say that it may have been bad timing to criticize articles in the NYT and then have a segment later than night on Miley Cyrus. I don't like to criticize a figure such as yourself, and I hope I didn't cross any lines there, but those were just some of my thoughts on the subject. Its amazing how many people just complain and complain on here, and in such a negative tone. I guess its easier to type mean words than to say them to someones face. I also wanted to say that I think NBC all day yesterday gave too much time to Jeremiah Wright. I saw at least 3 NBC related shows throughout the day giving too much(in my opinion) time to the subject. I also watched a few minutes of ABC World News with Charlie Gibson and they talked about it as well, so I'm not just pointing at you guys. I personally do not care about what Jeremiah Wright says when I decide who to vote for, nor do I care about Barack Obamas affiliation. It's funny that Mr. Obama has to tell the media that he doesn't agree with Mr. Wrights comments, as if there are people out there who believe otherwise. That also goes for Senators Clinton and Mccain, and there relationships with people. Anyways, sorry for the long paragraph. I will say this though, I think as long as you are anchoring, nightly news will never lose me as a viewer. Thanks for all your work Mr. Williams.

I feel sorry for the person who has to read this post,and all those from yesterday, before it can be put on here. I apologize for my long post, and hope that we can still be friends anyways.
In Barack Obama's news conference today he stated quite plainly that Jeremiah Wright was his pastor, not his spiritual advisor. So why do we see Tim Russert on your show calling him Obama's "spiritual advisor" -- not once, but twice? This is really sloppy reporting and merits an on-air correction.
  I'm no fan of this Rev. Wright guy, but let's not forget the guys on the right wing (Falwell and Robertson) who have said some pretty outrageous things themselves, including that 9/11 was our own fault because we allow homosexuality and abortion.  I say we just ignore all these "Reverends" -- they shouldn't have any place in government or elections anyway.
 Finally, another ridiculous press conference by President Bush. So his solutions to gas prices are more drilling and building more refineries? Great.  We've got to wake up and understand that the rest of the world gets to work by bus, train and subway. But we Americans won't elect anyone who utters the "T" word (taxes!) to pay for these types of things. So here we are. Hopefully things will start to change soon.
Mr. Williams, it is not my intent to stir things
up but I am not so sure the story about Sen. Obama
and Rev. Wright is without precedence.  My memory
is fuzzy but I do remember when the tapes were made
public of Pres Nixon and Dr. Billy Graham talking
against the Jewish people, it was shocking at the
time.  And I wonder if Israel felt betrayed by
America.
Dear Mr. Williams:
It's your job to know the biases and potential conflicts of interest of your analysts and commentators. You didn't. Your post doesn't cut it.
"On the other hand, one sparkling piece of journalism (which touched on a lot of themes frequent readers of this space will recognize) was by Peggy Noonan in this weekend's Wall Street Journal. Curl up with this one and give it the quality time it deserves. I'll say it again: Peggy is doing the work of her career and must be considered an early favorite for next cycle's Pulitzer for commentary." by Brian Williams
Interesting fact about McCain is carrying it in his bones.  Born under socialized medicine, educated through college with tax payers’ money as Daddy was millitary, eating food from a commissary at cut rate prices whose normal cost covered by taxpayers’ money, drawing pensions from Navy & SSA – is he a true person who has brought himself by the bootstraps vs Obama? As a vet and coming from a 5 star family of WWII including my father & 4 brothers, I really don't think Ms Noonan even has any idea of Act I when it comes to Obama.  How many black playmates in MS as I did while my father was camped at Camp Shelby did she have who couldn't go into a cafe to eat with her as I  had to do with my black friends in 1944 by going into back “Black Only” with them.  How many colored drinking fountains has Ms Noonan drunk out of while going to segregated bathrooms.  Every bone in McCain is a socialist's bone as he has never lived out side of a system that has allowed him to be under the cover the US Government.  I want to know what his Act II is going to be for the common man who didn't have an Admiral for a daddy or granddaddy.  As an Army mustang, I do know the difference in the life McCain lived and Obama lived even though I am White.  Why doesn't Ms Noonan truly identify the real problem - whites are bigots in the voting booth.

Comment to WSJ on Noonan’s Gate 14 article 4/23/2008
I am applied that Gate 14 is considered the highth of Peggy Noonen's

For you Brian to consider this sparkling piece of journalism makes you sound like Rev Wright or are you also on the payroll of the Pentagon as front like the Generals?  Peggy Noonan couldn't even defend herself to me.  Now all your comment readers surely will come to your defense for being a socialist and defending the Socialist Manifesto which both you & Ms Noonan apparently compliment each other's writings as defining journalism on the highest level.
I love it when the blogsphere proves my point, remember Williamsgate not 2 weeks ago? I believe at the time you were a stark raving mad liberal. So now you are a dour conservative, at the mercy of the Pentagon no less!
Were the Generals briefed? You've admitted they were. Did they give their own opinion and analysis, yes. End of story.  

Yesterdays postings go to the heart of what's wrong with politics today (and remember I'm what's called an activist Dem, I go to meetings, serve on committees  ect.) Jimmy Carter once pointed out that his campaign was the last where you had to call your opponent "My esteemed opponent" in a debate. It is now the norm to deride, scorn and condemn those you disagree with. State your opinion, as fact, don't back it up, just scream it as loudly as possible.

It's not just the pols anymore either, nor limited to just one party.  I actually know people who will not speak to me because I'm a Dem, and a couple of Dem friends who are horrified that my boss and my insurance guy are Republicans. Add to that at least one person who feels that marrying out of your political party far outweighs marrying outside of your religion, class whatever. The civility and honest discourse that usually mark this blog do not exist in most places. For that I am truly saddened.
End Rant

I was so bound and determined to get this post done I just missed the broadcast.. It was on and I didn't pay attention. What time does the netcast go up?
Not good enough Brian, you know that. I bet you wish you had a time machine so you could go back and tell yourself not to post that entry.
Aside from all the explanation about the friendship you have with these men and the details of their duties and services to our country. The one point you made about unsecured military personal is a striking point to myself. These are details that most average americans never hear about unless we read articles like this or take the time to inform themselves. Perhaps this is the reason we have over 4,000 military men and women dead in Iraq not including Afghanistan. My many thanks to you Brian Williams and NBC news for the sharing your thoughts and opinions with us Americans. Keep up the good work...and we'll keep watching.
Regardless of your personal experiences with these generals, the Times article was a major story any way you look at it. Shouldn't Americans be informed of this and decide for themselves if the generals' integrity exonerates them? I think it's strange that this blog would praise Noonan for her article about how Obama is elitist because, well, because she has some theory about how he is an elitist, and then go on to say that we Americans don't have to worry our simple little minds about this Times piece because Brian Williams has met them and Brian Williams knows what's best for us.
Mr Williams,
Your close friendship with these gentlemen is disturbing and at the very least, gives an impression of a lack of objectivity.  Your acquiescence and lack of critique of the Pentagon's embedded reporters program is further evidence of your lack of a critical viewpoint.  

Your defense that these men are your friends and are honorable does not respond to the points of the article.  Many military analysts were briefed with talking points, with specific things to say in promotion of war.  There's plenty of evidence that supports the story.  

So now you have responded.  You believe your analysts were not among those who repeated Pentagon talking points.  Great.  Do you not think it's a story?  You have no comment on the Pentagon's practices?  You have no comment on the dangers of military propaganda?  Are you a journalist or no?
Mr. Williams,

Unfortunately, whether you are willing to admit it or not, your "close personal relationships" with those who provide news, analysis, information, and/or opinion on your show necessarily bias you and your views toward them, making it all but impossible for you to truly be a skeptical journalist with those people and the information they put forth.  It should be so basic to you that your job is to report news objectively, vett your sources, and not be a part of the news, but merely a skeptic observer of the news, one who is a watchdog of the government, not a reporter for the government.  Surely you will never acknowledge such blasphemy, and yet millions of us no longer trust the likes of you in the MSM for this very reason, making you more and more irrelevant to us, as your constant ratings decline clearly shows.  You merely saying "Huh uhh" doesn't make it any less true.

Finally, the fact you disparaged a very real and intelligent sentiment expressed by Elizabeth Edwards, one that is loudly reflected by millions of other American Citizens, is perhaps the greatest example of your bias and unprofessionalism that is now part of the public record.  And that is said from someone who genuinely was a fan of yours until this all came about.  I am sad but unsurprised to realize you are just another cog in the corporatocracy-controlled and increasingly useless mainstream media.  

Events of the past 8 years have proven the MSM cannot be trusted to do it's job with even the most basic use of journalistic integrity.  When you're owned by the same people who receive the largest government contracts, tax breaks, and make huge profits at the expense of the taxpayers you broadcast to, none of us should be surprised.    
Not long ago, I watched a clip of your NYC forum on race relations.  I was disappointed.  Everyone on stage seemed to be from somewhere other than the ghetto.  Where were the single mothers and others who struggle every day to survive in the ghetto?  Their opinions would carry more weight than those wealthy and comfortable spokepeople for the black community, whose only message seemed to be that all the serious problems, including the bad choices that individual black people make, are whitey's fault and the only possible solution is for whitey to cough up more money for new programs.
"I quickly entered into a close friendship with both men."

Which, as any journalism textbook will tell you, is critical for maintaining objectivity in vetting sources.
Brian Williams said:
"I've worked with two men since I've had this job -- both retired, heavily-decorated U.S. Army four-star Generals -- Wayne Downing and Barry McCaffrey. As I'm sure is obvious to even a casual viewer, I quickly entered into a close friendship with both men."

Seriously Brian the viewer does not want you making friends with Military anaylst (pentagon shills)  we would prefer that you just give us the hard new.

I think this story like nothing else before shows that NBC is not in the business of real news.  

You really need to think about this Brian.  What the hell would Edward R Murrow have to say about all of this.  You have betrayed everything that your supposed to stand for.  Good luck
Brian,

I agree, you give us the best news.  We don't want bad news - or critical questioning of leaders - we just want the best news that General Electric chooses to provide through it's paid mouth-pieces.  And Brian, you are the best for GE.

Sorry for being a Vinnie.  But there are more of us than there are of you.  We just don't have the platform

Thanks for always being there for US.

Bill
And still you think that Noonan deserves a pulitzer for that piece?
While I am confident in your beliefs that your integrity is not tarnished there still remains a question about the retired military officers reputations. There remains the appearance of impropriety in their public criticisms (analysis)of the organizations which they have left. They are safe they no longer lead. They appear to be entrenched in the old ways of operating and unable to adapt to change. Every time I hear them come on television or the news I have to fight my way through my perceptions of their lack of loyalty to the military institutions where they spent their careers. So I really find the NYT attacks and the defenses against them as exercises on a dead end street. I have ten years of military service understand it's shortcomings but that undesttanding can't hold a candle to the teh profound respect I have for what it can do and those that lead it on active duty.
Brian Williams has in these two successive blog posts effected a remarkable unmasking.  

Williams is not content with ridiculing the NYT for publishing an op-ed which quite reasonably points out that media celebrities, like Williams himself, are more interested in label pins and $400 haircuts than the life, death and welfare of Americans who don't enjoy lives of corporate privilege.  Not to mention small matters like war, peace and the political economy.

No, he then goes on to praise Republican shill Peggy Noonan, for a column which baldly asserts that Barack Obama is not a true patriot, or even a real American.  And why?  Because Obama doesn't see the world in the same way a privileged white man does -- to wit, a fine unblemished man like John McCain or George W. Bush.

For the anchor of a major TV network to openly praise such a column is astounding, even in the age of Fox News.  After this admission, is the public supposed to believe that Brian Williams is unbiased and neutral?  

After praising the view that the likely Democratic nominee is a traitor to American ideals, and that the Republican nominee embodied those ideals virtually from birth, how exactly is Williams going to cover this election fairly?  And who's going to believe him?

And yet there's still more.  The military "analysts" appearing on WNBC couldn't be propagandists because, Brian tells us, they're honorable men.  No matter that Brian Williams never did due diligence on them, and declines to do due diligence on them now.  Like GWB, Brian can evidently look a man in the eyes and see his soul -- and his contractual relationships and his dealings with the Pentagon.  So there's nothing to apologize for.

Finally, we learn that GWB did "very well" at that correspondents dinner.  "Very well", indeed -- a man who's brought havoc on the world, did "very well" clowning in front of America's elite, while the rest of the world burns.  Could anyone, much less a "newsman", be more removed from reality than Brian Williams?  Is this the Twilight Zone?  Or just American in 2008, courtesy of Brian Williams and his colleagues?

This level of fatuity, self-love and ignorance verges on parody.  Brian Williams is to be thanked for this remarkable performance.  Rarely do we get it in so undiluted a dose of it.
Uhhm, now how about adressing this 'general' problem ON THE AIR where more than a dozen readers can hear your explanation of alleged collusion with the pentagon in reporting on the most disastrous military adventure in American history?
How about actually bringing the subject up on air during a MorningJoe appearance?
"At no time did our analysts, on my watch or to my knowledge, attempt to push a rosy Pentagon agenda before our viewers. I think they are better men than that, and I believe our news division is better than that."

Mr. Williams: This is called prejudging the news based upon your 'friendship' with some of the subjects of the story, not to mention your own employer.  I'm sure a man of your intellect (Gate 14 disadvantages notwithstanding) knows exactly what this is called.  And NBC is being called on it. As it should be.
The GeneralsGate story is in important one. Authorizing the use of former military personnel to disseminate government progaganda is in violation of federal law prohibiting such campaigns.

Of course, this comes from an administration that has made authorizing illegal behavior an everyday occurence.

I wish the Media would devote some time to this. Their silence only heightens their complicity.
"I read the article with great interest."

And then you spend 5 paragraphs blowing it off and never answer the question as to why you never mentioned it ON AIR.  The time to do that was Monday April 20th.  And we got a collective silence from you and the rest of the broadcast media.

That was a major piece of investigative journalism.  

Silence speaks volumes.
Once again you and your brethren fail to address the the criticism of the media directly.  There was ONE issue that the NYT article came back to over and over again DISCLOSURE. The military "experts" failed to disclose their business interest to the networks. Failing to DISCLOSE those conflicts of interest was a breach of professional ethics. If the networks/news media were aware of these conflicts and they failed to DISCLOSE them, they breached journalistic ethics.  DISCLOSURE of conflicts of interest (actual and perceived) is the responsibility of both parties. How difficult would it have been for the NTY, Washington Post, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, Fox News, etc. to have checked the background of these "experts"? One of the earlier commentators pointed out that Gen. (ret.) McCaffrey was a member of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, surely this was known by the network and should have been DISCLOSED as should his employment/interest regarding various military contractors with business dealings involving the Iraq War.
My personal criticism of news media reporting regarding the Iraq War specifically and news gathering  in general is the lack of DISCLOSURE of personal, professional, business contacts between reporters, their sources, the people and the departments they cover. I find it disturbing when I see members of the media  socializing with the same people they report on. It is my feeling that the members of the media ( the head of the network, the publishers, bureau heads, reporters, editors, producers, anchors and columnist) need to be reminded that they must maintain a separation between themselves and the people they are covering.  These people are NOT your "friends", and when dealing with them  "Trust.. but verify".
Great show Brian

With tonight's news it's clear how all the dots connect to our recession. It's not just gas prices. The Boy Who Cried Wolf aka President Bush has created the perfect storm. I think President Bush shouldn't confuse Harry Potter as real with the magic wand comment. He might let out by accident that Dick Cheney is really Lord Voldemort.

I am so proud of Lt. Fernandez for his service. I know lot of soldiers who don't like to hear the numbers of soldiers who died. He's right we have so many soldiers that have hidden injuries not just the ones we see.  Vietnam was different but this time we really don't have an honest reason for the invasion. Saddam ruled a country in chaos and had enemies within. This conflict would have happen without the US. Now because of what the White House and Pentagon call mistakes new terrorist groups have developed. Because of the White House propaganda, lies, stealing, torture and bombing in populated areas we have a big problem with will last for many decades to come.

As for Senator Obama ending his friendship with Rev. Wright. Life gives us choices and those choices bring consequences. No one ever believes everything that told. Rev. Wright lived like alot of African Americans during troubled times and still served our country in the Military. Senator Obama went to the Rev. the Rev. didn't go to Obama. Twenty years gone because of choice. My Dad always said you will have many friends when your doing good but when your at your lowest look around and see who is still there if anybody at all. The question the Senator will have to ask himself is was it with it, and what else is he willing to give up? I believe in unconditional love if you use the word love and mean it. I wish both Senator Obama and Rev. Wright the best as twenty years is a long time.

Just a little note of thanks Brian for putting up with my rambling and you know how I have talk about everything.

Best to my friends Lisa, Laural and Stephanie
Regarding the Generals vs. Rumsfield:

 Much more investigation is in order regarding the ties nearly all retired flag or general officers have to the defense industry.

 In many instances (e.g. protecting vehicles from missiles and/or IEDs) Rumsfield's modernizing aproach was to buy something that worked off the rack, such as systems from Israel.  The generals, who were so often at odds with Rumsfield, typically favored sending billions to defense firms to see if we could have something working in time for the next war . . . they are all men of integrity, and I am sure that the fact that they are on the boards of these companies (if retired) or going to work for them just as soon as they retire (if they're still on active duty) in no way influenced their judgement of how to proceed.

Things brings me to a point that really irritates me about the administration and the Republicans:  Their failure to communicate this point.  I guess all politicians think voters are dumb.

 Suppose Rumsfield had assembled a room full of parents of troops serving in the middle east, and put the question to them:  Should we buy protective systems currently available from Israel, South Africa, or whomever?  Or should we award a U.S. contractor a multi-billion contract to see if they could develop something five years from now? No question whom the public would have supported.

 I am a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy and went to the middle East three times while on active duty; I have some experience in these issues.
Anyone else notice that Mr. Williams didn't include a link to the NY Times article, yet in his previous post he sure included a link to that dreck Peggy Noonan column Mr. Williams swooned over?

Telling.
Sir,
One of the bothersome aspects of the NYT's article is the ties between the generals and defense contractors.  I would like to know what NBC's policy is for vetting on-air analysts.  Are the backgrounds actively searched, or are analysts expected to voluntarily disclose potential conflicts of interest?  What about for other topics, i.e., on-air business consultants?
I realize you are busy but the allegations in the article were strong and well-documented, and the news organizations are further undermining their credibility by remaining silent.
I would love to read a response to Karen C's comment, the fourth following your post, Mr. Williams.

By the way, it is not helpful to include in your network's defense against the NYT's observations that you were such good buds with the men in question.

Do you really think they could serve on the board of a group lobbying for the Iraq invasion, attend regular propaganda "briefings" at the Pentagon and consort with other "analysts" who were financially invested in the occupation and not have their opinions colored even an itsy bitsy teeny tiny bit?

I swear to God, journalism has gone to hell. Is there anything in this matter, you could have done better?
You contend, Brian, that your news division "is better than that"  -- better than to present government propaganda.

But in fact your news division DID present a steady diet of government propaganda, and declined to present alternative views.  Wasn't it MSNBC which fired its highest rated cable TV host for bringing on anti-war guests at a time when MSNBC competitors were "waving the flag", as described in a leaked NBC memo?

And isn't an undisputed fact that your new division did in fact give the public a government-fabricated view of reality?  Even if the generals in question believed these fictions, where were the other viewpoints -- the people who were saying that Iraq did not possess WMD, that Iraq posed no threat to the U.S., that it would be no "cakewalk", that disaster might well result, that hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens would be killed and millions more displaced?  How often were those views represent on the nightly news, compared to war advocacy?

To this day, your network has yet to apologize to the public, or reform its practices.  And how could it, when you have yet to concede the failure which occurred?


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