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Responding to your concerns about plastic bottles

Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:18 PM by Victor Limjoco

By Robert Bazell, NBC News chief science correspondent

 

We have more today on plastic bottles. My blog Thursday on this subject, which you can see below behind a couple of Brian’s entries, generated an unusually large number of responses. I’ll try to answer to some of your questions. That blog has a lot of the basics of this issue and links to sites where you can find more information. Please refer to it, I won’t repeat all that.

 

Today’s news is that the Canadian government is banning baby bottles that might give off the chemical Bisphenol A (known as BPA). The Canadian Health Minister said he was acting out of an abundance of caution for babies and emphasized he did not think there was any danger to adults from the wide variety of plastic containers that give off tiny amounts of BPA. You can read about the Canadian decision here.

 

Also Wal-Mart has announced it is removing baby bottles with BPA from its shelves in both the US and Canada. Nalgene, a major manufacturer of water bottles said it would stop using plastic containing BPA.

 

A lot of you asked the simple question “What should I do?” Unfortunately we in the news business should not be giving advice. This is a difficult issue for many reasons. The potential danger from BPA was discovered about 20 years ago. It takes a long time and lots of money to perform the animals tests to look for a potential danger. Then there are arguments about their meaning with environmentalists and some scientists on one side and the chemical industry and its experts on the other.

 

Health Canada decided today it had enough information to act. The U.S. FDA which regulates the issue in this country has not made that determination yet although some members of Congress are trying to push it.

 

If you decide on your own there is a danger, the obvious thing is to avoid plastic containers whenever possible. Glass breaks, but it does not give off chemicals.

 

If you do use plastic containers and worry about BPA, the recycling symbols on the bottoms of plastic bottles can be of some help. (The number 7 indicates the possible presence of BPA). I know from friends that bottles and baby cups guaranteed to be BPA free are flying off the shelves. You should also try to avoid scratching, microwaving or washing any plastic containers in harsh detergents. But even cans (some of them containing baby formula) are often lined with plastics, some containing BPA. So the chemicals are hard to avoid completely.

 

Ultimately this complexity requires the federal government to pay for quality research and make the right decisions based on good science. In other words, like with many other things, it is up to our elected officials.

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My brother in law has been on this particular band wagon long before it was on the evening news and front page.  We don't let the baby have a bottle more than 4 weeks; the Nalgenes are out; plastic bottles are tossed after 4 weeks.  I can say from personal experience that any plastic cup makes liquids taste funny if they've set a while or has been in use for a while.  Add this up to another "modern" item that could kill us.  

I've heard it mentioned many times this week that the Texas cult sect are in another century.  With all the stuff around us that make modern life livable but cause harm, sometimes I wonder if maybe the other century was better in many respects.
Brian,
I love you news cast.  In the article concerning water bottles, the best water bottle (hands down) is Tupperware, they do not contain BPA.
You have done a poor job reporting this BPA plastic story. Please stop showing shelves full of #1 plastic water bottles as video footage for this story. They don't have BPA in them and are not the issue at all. Your viewers need to understand plastics are not all the same.
Yes, the time has come for us to deal with this serious health issue of plastics in water and baby bottles, can liners, etc. It seems as a nation we have chosen "convenience" over safety. Maybe now, due to your good reporting, we can have a national conversation about these concerns and our choices and then move to action.Thanks for your good work.
First, thank you for this report.  I just sent the following mail to the NIH as public comments:
Dear Dr. Shane,
As the mother of two young children growing up our a plastic-filled world, it would be helpful for your organization to provide:
1) counsel to Congress and consumer advocacy groups advising a ban on the use of this chemical in the US.  It is appalling to find out how many food and drink containers are #7 other plastics that people use EVERYDAY.  As a parent, the fact that your organization views this as anything but a “negligible concern” on neural, behavioral and sexual development for children means we should be taking ACTION for their sake.
2) Counsel to the public on practical actions they can take to immediately reduce exposure or avoid the substance altogether.  I would prefer to receive advice from experts than the Internet blogs where fact and fiction are difficult to discern.  If it were not for NBC news explaining that the chemical is found in #7 plastics, I would not understand how prevalent its use is.
Is there a link to a website that has a list of all the items containing this?? Because that's very frightening, especially for people who have babies!! I guess this will be an even EXTRA motivation to ween my son from his bottle early!

Thank you for letting the public know!!
Nalgene bottles are also not safe; I cannot remember which chemical they leach into water, but they do leach chemicals, especially when heated (ie cleaning with a dishwasher or putting hot water to kill germs).  The safe alternative?  Metal.  Sorry, but it is true.  It is like hormone free milk - sure, the cows were not fed RBHG, but that does not mean they cows were fed a healthy diet, and the milk is not full of pesticide residue from the genetically modified corn that is a main stay in the average (read, every except organic cow's) diet.  

Plastic bottles, containers, tupperware, Glad, Nalgene - these are not safe.  Why do you think there are all those warnings not to use them in the microwave?  Sure, some people may use them forever and never get sick, but when there are 300 million Americans using them for our entire lives, especially when they combined with all the chemicals in shampoo, lotions (when was the last time you actually looked in the ingredients in your lotion?!), food, etc, they are the reason there are so many diseases.  Even if *only* 0.01% of people fall sick to something, that is still THIRTY THOUSAND people.  

Side note:  check your shampoo, conditioner, body wash, lotion, etc for methylparaben, ethylparaben, or anything that ends in parabens.  Tests have shown parabens in EVERY sample of breast cancer tissue.  Coincidence?  I think not.  Google it for more information.
Is the focus just on Baby Bottles?  I have reviewed nearly everything I can find in my house that is Plastic.  Especially everything my two grand daughters (18mo and almost 4yrs)use daily.  I have found Gerber Gratuates Microwave meals container is a 7 other and the toddler Finger Food snacks containers from Gerber in my cupboard are too.  The bottle of Pediasure in my fridge is also a 7 other.   Why is it all the Kids stuff?  I have went through everthing else that us adults in the house use -- the only 7 others I have found thus far are things for the kids - Now what?  They have been consuming this stuff for years -- Hot, cold and room temp.  Is this just something that emits with heat or is it present all the time?  Does all 7 other Plastic Items contain this BPA or is it just a possibility.  I am assuming it is just a catch all code.  I would think if a Government (our or another) is banning something we should all be concerned.  I haven't informed my daughter yet - she is going to FREAK!!
This was great informative information, thank you.  I have a question though, I am 6 months pregnant and wear invisalign braces.  I am concerned with the health risks of what kind of plastic they are made from. I searched on the internet, but was unable to find this out.
I am also wearing visalign and haven't been able to find any info on invisalign & Bisphenol A.  I would love to hear from anyone that may have some info.  
Does anybody think the increase use of plastics over the past years is linked to the increase rise in Autism, ADHD, Bipolar and other mental health issues in our children? Is anybody researching a connection?
Plastic bottles are a growing problem in our landfills and oceans.  We felt that something needed to be done……and now.  

We knew that there wasn’t going to be one “fix it all” answer and began to wonder if anything was ever going to be done.  The problem was growing every day,  more bottles were being manufactured and more bottles were accumulating in places where we didn’t need them.

We were wondering if “Earth Friendly Bottles” would ever be available?

That’s why we decided to do our part and started ENSO Bottles.  We are partnering with other companies to offer a PET plastic bottle that will biodegrade, compost or recycle.  

Our bottles can be produced in a clear or colored version, however, the clear version isn't quite as clear as current PET plastic bottles but then again that's one way to identify our earth friendly bottle.  

ENSO is trying to achieve sustainability with our plastic bottles. Our goal is to make bottles that won’t have the adverse impact on our environment and are made from non food bio-fuels.

We haven't started making them from bio-fuel but that’s high on our agenda and hopefully will be something we can offer in the future.

But for now, we offer a plastic bottle that is earth friendly...it’s just one step but if we all take just one step toward improving our planet….we will make a difference.  

Now all we need is for a lot of beverage companies to start using earth friendly plastic bottles.


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