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Plastic bottles – are they safe?

Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:23 PM by Victor Limjoco

By Robert Bazell, NBC News chief science correspondent

 

For the past few days we have been covering an issue that is generating a lot of concern. Certain types of plastic containers can leech a chemical called bisphenol A (BPA). The chemical can mimic the female hormone estrogen. Given to animals at high doses it can cause all sorts of health problems ranging from infertility and obesity to several types of cancer.

There is no question that Americans are exposed to the chemical. A study by the CDC estimated that 92.6 percent of Americans age 6 and above had measurable BPA in their bodies.

The chemical industry has maintained for years that the high dose animal experiments do not show any human effects and the FDA, which would regulate the chemicals, has said there is no danger. Many scientists have continued to look for possible danger in both animal and human studies.

On Tuesday, the National Toxicology Program, a division of the National Institutes of Health issued an alarm The agency said there was a possibility BPA could be causing brain problems in fetuses and children and prostate and breast problems in adults.

The actual quote from the draft report concluded “there is some concern for neural and behavioral effects in fetuses, infants, and children at current human exposures. The NTP also has some concern for bisphenol A exposure in these populations based on effects in the prostate gland, mammary gland, and an earlier age for puberty in females.”

The designation of “some” concern is equivalent to 3 on a danger scale of 1 to 5. You can see the report itself here. A few members of Congress have issued calls for the FDA to ban the plastics. So far the FDA has not responded.

If you want to avoid bottles with BPA look on the bottom for very tiny numbers enclosed in arrows that look like this. The number 7 indicates BPA. The numbers 3 and 6 indicates the presence of similar chemicals that some scientists and environmentalists believe could be cause for concern.

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So what will all those hikers and backpackers do now?
My friend's oncologist told her to avoid using anything in plastic bottles that had been subjected to heat because of leeching.  For example, don't drink the water if the bottle has been sitting in the sun.  Also don't put any plastic in the dishwasher as the leeched chemical will cling to the dishes and utensils.  
Hello, I have read over the concerns posted and comments and I myself use the Nalgene product, but do not put it or ever store it in the refridgerator and was wondering if I to will be affected?  I won't be as extreme as Edmund de la Reynolds, Hartford, CT, but I know I would not like to start growing a pair of women's breast before I get to turn 40, LOL.
I read the questions. How do we find the answers?
bottles with a 7 are poly carbonate bottles like the nonbreakable nalgene bottles.  You should stay away from bottles with a 3,6 or 7 on them.
#1 bottles are the disposable bottles like aquafina, poland spring, gatorade, etc.  #2 are ziplock, tupperware containers and 5 are plastic bottles as well.  Nalgene does make a bottle with a #2 if anyones interested just check the site.  I just threw out my 10 old bottles and am replacing them one by one with the new ones.  
As far as I know, all bottles by law have to have the plastic code on them for recycling purposes, BUT there is no restriction on how small they can make the number (ie. eddie bauer bottles at target are #7 but the triangle is so small I had to pull a magnifying glass out to see it!!  in the trash they go)
Are Capri Sun pouches safe?
Another note to concerned parents. I know some have expressed concern over baby bottles. If you don't want to use glass bottles, try using the Playtex Nursers with the disposable liners. A little more work but not made with BPA. And if you're nursing and pump and freeze breastmilk, look for Medela storage items. They are all labeled "BPA-free." My pediatrician recommended these to me.
For some of those looking for an alternative to plastic bottle or sippy cups, take a look at www.kleankanteen.com
They offer stainless steel bottle which are non-leaching (no BPA) and they offer sippy cups. I have a Klean Kanteen and love it.
Another alternative bottle which is great is the Camelbak brand BPA free water bottle. They are not polycarbonate (7). They contain a special leach-free copolymer called Tritan.
In a couple of months Nalgene is supposed to release some new BPA-free bottles as well.
MSNBC... People need the whole story.

Number 7 plastic is labeled "Other" because if there is a plastic which does not fit into the category's of 1 through 6, it is known as Other. There are so many plastics that numbering each one would drive people crazy. Go to this link, it is only one site of many which state that some 7 plastics are safe to drink out of and some are very bad. Lexan is very bad, that would be the hard plastic nalgene bottles, however the softer white plastic nalgenes are not bad to drink out of. Get all of the facts before freaking out about the number 7 on the bottom.  


http://www.thedailygreen.com/green-homes/eco-friendly/plastic-bottles-toxins-water-bottles-460410
Your report on plastic bottles tonight (Thursday, April 17) was terrible!  My husband and I kept saying to the tv - what are you talking about? - which bottles?, which ones are dangerous - aren't you going to show us some examples?  What do you mean go to our website for more information?  You owed it to all your viewers with no web access to give many more details on this alarming report instead of using the words prostrate cancer, breast cancer, birth defects....etc etc without a much longer explanation and examples.  Shame on you for sensationalist reporting with no details.
I'm not sure that all bottles marked with a 7 have BPA.  Mine says '7' and PC which means polycarbonate.  So does that contain BPA or is it classified as 'other'?
So what's the problem? Take your water to work in a glass bottle with a cork, make your own baby food from vegetables from your own garden, and (mothers) nurse your babies. That way everybody's happy.
I'm right in there with the Snapple bottle user.  Glass is considered safe and has been around forever.  This size bottle nicely fits in backpack carrier.

As for an earlier post, "what are we doing to our children?", i agree!
What I'm doing for mine is feeding him as much as possible the Nourishing Traditions way.  See Weston A Price Foundation for details.

I rarely use canned goods or packaged foods.  No sugar in the house, no pop, etc.  Raisins are snacks and seaweed is a treat. My 3 yr old eats steamed veggies, sushi and loves oatmeal.  I'm not trying to make folks feel bad, but with some work you can do it too.

Put away the juice boxes, fruit rollups and pull out whole fruit.

I'm sure there's another forum to talk about this so off i go,
Thanks for listening,
Anyone who is concerned about the types of bottles that contain Bisphenol A should look up the Wikipedia page on the chemical. It lists polycarbonate as the worst plastic for BPA, and its used for some beverage and baby bottles.
A note to the parent looking at the plastic baby food containers, I personally emailed Gerber foods about that and they told me their containers are lined. If you heat them, it separates. As for other brands, I don't know. But I totally agree! We're using this "garbage" to feed our children - OUR FUTURE. We are their parents and we're supposed to protect them but instead we're potentially poisoning them? What gives? Why can't all the plastic be made out of 1 or 2 since they are recyclable and better for the planet too?
Another note. For those parents that are concerned about baby bottles - try using the playtex nursers;they have the disposable liners. A little extra work but BPA free. Also, for nursing moms like, if you pump and store/freeze like I do, look for Medela storage bottles - they are BPA free! My pediatrician recommended them to me.
I have a 2 month old baby and am very concerned about BPA. I found a lot of information at zrecs.blogspot.com . They have good information about BPA free bottles. It's not just in plastic bottles. It is also in the lining of baby formula cans! There are several brands that make BPA free bottles. I ended up buying Born Free bottles.
I have water delivered to my home and some of the 5 gallon water jugs have #7 on them and others have #1.  Should I request only newer #1 jugs?  Also they deliver them and leave them outside all day in the weather.  Does that affect the leeching into the water?
I think you really should do a story not only on what is potentially dangerous - numbers 3,6 and 7 - but also what might be considered safe.  There just seems to be a lack of information out there right now and obviously people are concerned.
There are a few companies that manufacture baby bottles that are BPA free...Medela (the breast pump company), Born Free (also have sippy cups), Adiri, and Green to Grow. They are all phlalate free too! Sigg makes aluminum water bottles that are supposed to be safe.
My concerns are:  I have heard that #1 plastic water bottles, sent to areas of conflict, are exposed to extreme hot and cold temperatures. Are we putting our service men and women, in harms way?  If so, don't they deserve better?

I'd like to know what kind of containers the ACC members and their families are drinking out of???  

My mama told me to always tell the truth; don't we the people deserve to know?  #1, 2, 3, 5, 6 & 7???
What's the real scoop?

It would seem paramount that the scientific/pharma communities of the world always keep the good health and welfare of the world and its people, a priority with respect and a caring heart and work togehter to find healthy solutions to challenges.  

Please keep in mind that my comments are NOT directed at good, conscientious companies who are dedicated to producing products that are safe for use and consumption. BRAVO to them! :o)

When all is said 'n done and we're in our twilight years, our actions in life, motivated by sincere TLC and NOT the "bottom" line will have molded our character and thereby defined our life's legacy for future generations. Quality of life is priceless!

Respectfully submitted...to all. :o)
Please clarify on the details of the issue.  Is just using the plastic introducing the chemical, or does the plastic have to be heated in order to release the chemical?  
Dear All Common Sense People,
  To me the plastic bottle health risk is one of many, however, extra hormone is not the worst potential health risk I fear from everyday containers. I have found that people do things that scare me to death but they seem to fair alright.  For instance, leaving plastic soda bottles in the back of a pick up for hours or even days in the sun before putting them in the refrigerator.
  How about using plastic with plastic wrap to microwave in and I kid you not, microwaving meat in the original foam plastic containers you buy them in.
  Would this scare anyone or am I the only overly cautious person who wants to spend their life some other place then the doctor's office?
 
just when will the f.d.a. ,congress, the senate, and especially MR.BUSH GET OFF THIER BUTT; AND START DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, instead of pouring billions every week into a worthless& un-called for war.this will start causing more ill health effect"s that we are not even not aware of yet.
And what happens after all the different plastics have been recycled? Wouldn't 7 be mixed in with all the others?
The triangle symbol means that the item is 'plastic/recyclable'. The number indicates what it's made of for the recycling companies to sort. So, the triangle doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. "No triangle: NOT RECYCLABLE"
I buy Pure Life  bottle water all the time.  Found on the bottles 036 is this safe or have simiclar chemicals. Have one with a triangle and inside that is 1Pete . What does that stand for?  Like more information on this. Thanks
What about plastic water pipes?
Schools don't like glass bottles due to safety issues like inadvertant cuts or deliberate shanks.  The word safety is so innaccurate anymore.  Plastic is safer, unless it is unsafe.  Glass is not allowed because it is unsafe, even though it can be safer.  I'm dizzy.
What are we to do with our expsive Nalgene bottles? Just throught them out, we cant recycle them. Could you please give a more indepth report on this subject. There are many concerns and questions from the general public. Ok there is a responce from one person stating that the new bottles from Nalgene do not have BPA in them, how do we know if the ones we have do or dont? Please Help us out.
I would like to know the responses to all the other comments.  I am very concerned about this problem.  The plastic bottles I have now are labeled 7, and I would like to replace them with something safe.  Please stay on top of this; something is causing a lot of cancer and this might be a contributing factor.  Why take chances.
I saw a report which stated nalgene bottles and the like should not be washed in harsh chemicals.  Since I use those bottle on occassion, I wonder what exactly that means.  I generally wash them on occasion in the dishwasher with a biodegradable product made by Seventh Generation.  Do you know if this is considered harsh?  I also make a point of rinsing out the bottles when removing from dishwasher.  Does that make a difference.  Would regular dishwashing detergen (also made by Seventh Generation) be preferable or do they all create problems with these plastics?
Please and Thank you.  Thank you for bringing this information to the public.  And please get us more! There are many plastic items not labeled with these numbers, any more research you can do would be greatly appreciated.  
I've been listening to these reports and have come to this conclusion. There is reason for concern because as for "nothing being done about it" means some of us would like to see certain bottles taken off the shelf that is sold. They should be packaged saying the bottle is "chemical-free". And last but not least it is to my understanding the the "1" in the triangle is the safest and can be reused if only using water in it and rinsing it out. The number "2" bottle should be used onced and only once and thrown away. People, it all boils down to this, do what YOU think is right for you and your family. I think all news is worthy, to others it may not. Again, do what YOU think is necessary for you and your family and don't shoot the messenger!
The reporters need to do more homework and try again.  

7 means "other plastics" not just polycarbonate.

Fear mongering on all plastics is a tremendous disservice and causing many people to panic for no reason. Plastics save lives, keep food protected and are affordable. Plastics 3 and 6 do not have BPA in them - polycarbonate however, may.  
Remember, the scientists who said BPA's are bad were trained using the same scientific model as the scientists who said BPA's were good. Together, they have both created a wave of psychological anxiety, post plastic stress disorder. I suggest BPA's, in and of themselves are neither good nor bad. Your body, child or adult, is wise enough to use BPA's in the way that you desire. I suggest one make the higher choice. That's free will!!
I am a mother of a toddler and I try to avoid plastic with all of his food.  I feed him from wooden plates and bowls, and never store his food in plastic containers, but when it comes to his drinks the only things available are plastic sippy cups.  What do I do to make sure that he is not getting dangerous toxins?  Parents have enough to worry about now this too!  
This story sincerely makes the issue sound much worse than it is. If one actually reads the report one finds "The NTP concurs with the conclusion of the CERHR Expert Panel on Bisphenol A that there is negligible concern that exposure to bisphenol A causes reproductive effects in non-occupationally exposed adults and minimal concern for workers exposed to higher levels in occupational settings." There is basically no risk to adults.
There are stainless steel water bottles available for sale on the internet and certain sites sell BPA free bottles for infants.  If you're interested and you spend some time looking - there are options out there to help avoid exposure to these chemicals.
I use a Nalgene bottle on a daily basis to decrease the use of plastic bottles.  When I clean my bottle, I use warm water and a mild detergent and do not place it in the dishwasher.  Am I still at risk of being exposed to BPA?  
Where can I get an analysis of the risks/non-risks associated with all the numbers and to what extent reuse, heat, cold may factor in the safe use of plastic bottles.
R We going to answers to these questions or where can we find answers to these questions; What about the re-use of water bottles with number  1 on the bottom, which it seems all bottled water companies use. Is it considered safe to re-use these bottles since they arn't made with the same materials as 3, 6, and 7?
Is BPA only in plastic bottles, or is it present in other plastic products, i.e. Tupperware, Zip-Loc bags, etc.
Thanks
Has anyone looked on the bottom of the 5 gallon bottles that are delivered for the water cooler? The 5 gallon bottles at my work have a number 7 on them.
What does that mean that when you heat the Gerber containers the lining seperates - meaning it is safe or not safe?  I have a 5 month old who eats about3 to 4 containers a day and uses Avent bottles!  I would really appreciate a report on the news that gives specifics from company's that we use - especially baby products.
Camelbak bottles are marked with the #7 but are BPA-free. According to their website, the #7 is a recycling code which is used for all plastics that do not fit into a #1-#6 designation. The #7 includes many different types of plastics, but does not mean it contains BPA.
I read somewhere that if you want to reuse a plastic bottle, don't wash it with soap and hot water--just rinse it. This seems to go along with the advice on the Report site not to heat a plastic bottle--in the microwave, etc.
What do the numbers 1 and 2 indicate?
This came at a good time as one of my twins is planning to get pregnant in July. After I informed her of this study, she threw all her "yuppy" pricey water bottles out, and will return to metal thermoses.She won't use hard plastic bottles on the rare times she has to pump and leave. I used small,cheap   glass bottles    that my twins had great fun trading with each other by lofting his/her bottle accross the room to the other twins crib,. This became even more fun when they realized, with timing, the bottles could hit mid-air and shatter to bits. This game helped them later in sports.  
Will our questions be answered? If so, when  and where will they be posted?


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