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4000 dead

Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 4:04 PM by Barbara Raab

By Mike Taibbi, NBC News correspondent

Anyone who's reported from Iraq -- and I've done four substantial reporting assignments from the war, from 14 weeks at the start to a month-long embedded assignment with producer John Zito last spring with a company of the Third Infantry Division -- follows the news from the war zone with a special interest.  So I knew in recent weeks we were creeping up on the next somber milestone: 4,000 American troops killed in battle. 

John and I spoke several times in the past few months about how we might report that story, when the milestone was reached, and one idea came together.  We'd both covered the war from the beginning, and had revisited story subjects we'd come to know along the way.  

One subject, a 35-year old raw-boned Oklahoma tough guy named Daniel "Bill" Scates had been killed late last summer along with four fellow soldiers when they walked into a booby-trapped house in southern Baghdad.  I knew Scates; had met him in the first weeks of the war on a day when he was struggling to come to grips with a tragic mistake:  his company had survived the costly but triumphant march from the south to Baghdad, but, once there, they'd set up a roadblock where they were billeted and when an innocent Iraqi family drove through it, panicking, Scates watched as the security detail mistakenly opened fire.  A father and his daughter were killed, his wife the only survivor. 

Scates had come face to face with the woman and, in a story we reported from Baghdad about combat traumatic stresses, he'd said in a debriefing session "I had to look her in the eyes, and I felt so horrible for her...I'm becoming more and more pissed with time over (the incident)...it gets me so frustrated, more and more I want to choke somebody... constantly!" 

Scates was a professional soldier, though, and dealt with his anger in as straightforward a way as he'd spoken to us.  He re-upped not once but twice after his first tour.  He didn't make it back from his third tour, telling his wife Raquel before he left that he'd had dreams about not surviving this time.  But he repeated to Raquel what he'd told us several times, "I'm a soldier, this is my job.  It's what I do."

And now, John Zito and I and Producer Sue Kroll knew, his wife and two young daughters would have to start a life without him and that's the story we would tell.  We'd gone to El Paso and covered Scates's funeral, and though we interviewed his wife and older daughter, we never put a separate story together on their struggle after Bill's death.  Now, with the new milestone approaching, would be the time to do it; to explore the struggles unique in this "friends and family" war... a war so under-the-radar for many Americans now, that in a Pew Research survey earlier this month a paltry 28% of those polled knew to the nearest thousand how many American military dead the war had claimed. 

We would touch on a few other recent deaths of troops in Iraq but returned, in the end, to the Scates family story.  Raquel, after a rough patch in their marriage, had smoothed things out with her husband in the months before his final deployment;  "We were even thinking of having a third (child)," she says. Then, last August 11th, Raquel heard a car door slam from the street in front of her house, and peeked through the small window in her front door to see a two-man uniformed detail approaching.  

"I was already crying before I opened the door," she told us. Three combat tours in Iraq certainly upped the odds of a bad result.  She was devastated, but not shocked.

At one point during our visit to Raquel's saddened house in El Paso, her nine-year-old daughter Jade asked me if I wanted to see her scrapbook... the one she'd put together about her Daddy.  She was almost giddy, taking a stranger on a photo tour through her family's life with her father at its center.  When she flipped to the last page she pointed to the last picture and said, emphatically, "the END!"
 
For the families of 4,000 fallen warriors, it is "the end" of one phase of their lives...no question in their wounded hearts about how many have been lost in Iraq...and about how much has been lost.  Our story would be a reminder of the human story of heroism and loss at the heart of any war. 
 
Raquel said of her husband, "He was trying to protect the whole United States.  I would like people to know that...that even if he didn't know you, he was trying to take care of you."
 
Editor's note: Mike Taibbi's report airs on tonight's broadcast.

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Dear Mr.Taibbi, This is such a terrible milestone to reach in this conflict. Daniel Scates was a brave and dedicated soldier who served his country well. My thoughts and prayers go out to Raquel,her daughter and the rest of their family. Her husband was much too young to be lost and it just breaks ones heart to read about another loss due to this war. Raquel's statement of "He was trying to protect the whole United States. I would like people to know that...that even if he didn't know you, he was trying to take care of you." made me so very touched and sad. He will always be remembered as a brave and dedicated soldier as well as a good father and husband. May peace befall this region soon. God Bless all our brave military. Peace to all.
Mike that was all the more touching for having been beautifully written.  I'll be watching.
Thank you, Mr. Scates, for being willing to sacrifice and protect my family, our freedoms, and me.  I do not forget.  My heartfelt condolences to Raquel, Jade, and the rest of his family.
Mike - thank you for the beautiful story. It was difficult to watch, yet it brightens my day to see that people all across the nation will know that my brother was a true American hero, and laid down his life to protect the American people. He was a good man. Thank you.
Raquel

There are so many of us here who want you and your girls to know, that we know your husband and their daddy was protecting my family. For the family of those who chose to "stand on the wall" so we could sleep peacefully in our beds at night, we say thank you and we will continue to offer your prayers to the Lord for all of you.
The 4000 dead and the 5 year milestones make me wonder: During this period, how many Americans have been killed by: medical mistakes, murders, drunk driving "accidents" or other major causes. Also, consider the number who have been seriously injured in similar categories. If the numbers are meaningful, what is being done to stop the killing at home? The war is an easy target because it is so visible and costs so much. It might be nice to see it in relation to other activities.
 Similarly, what is the death, and injury, toll compared to some of the battles we fought in WW II?
 Whether you favor or oppose the war, the amount of news coverage it gets compared to other activities seems to be highly unballanced.
 Would it be possible to see the statistical comparison above as a new article?
What a great story.  But- what about reporting on the number of soldiers that are critically injured?  It seems that all the people care about is the numbers of deaths.  My brother was in a tank in southern baghdad on March 14th at 3pm when they were hit by an IED.  He and 3 other soldiers were critically injured.  My brother lost his right leg upto his knee and all of his left leg.  He also arrested twice on that first day so there is extensive brain damage and the nuerosergons are saying that they don't know if he will ever even wake up.  What makes it so very hard is that on top of being only 25 (he turns 26 on thursday the 27th), he and his wife are expecting their second child in 10 days.  
Just like Raquel and her family, there are families of critically injured soldiers all across the US that are suffering just as much with their critically injured soldiers as they would with a death.  I just wish that this would all be over.  
Your story tonight made me cry

May his soul and the souls of all the faithful rest in peace"
Why do we (you) continue to report only active duty deaths caused only in combat? How many "Americans" have been killed trying to support the military in Iraq? How many American contractors have been killed? How many non-combat military deaths have occurred? I, for one, feel you are  misleading us when you say 4000 (or whatever the number is that day) Americans have been killed in NBC reports. The actual number of Americans killed is substantially higher than that -- but we never hear that number!
Thank you for doing this story with such honesty and  I happen to be a dear friend of Raquel's and I am overseas so seeing her and the girls just made me smile. Daniel was a father, husband, soldier and a personal hero. He was a great man, thank you for sharing that with the world.
Two thirds of the U.S. do not agree with the war in Iraq, the U.S. dead now at 4000. Be advised that there were war protests during WWII, when the U.S. casualty list was 440,000.

I agree with Full Moon...we never have much of a stomach when the body bags start coming home...which is why it's so played down by the administration, and the media to a large degree.  

My question is:  what about those who leave behind a limb, or an eye?  And what about those Americans who weren't on active duty, but there to support the effort, albeit for high (or perhaps, faster) pay?  

And, what about the non-Americans, namely the Iraqis who were killed, maimed, left homeless, without families, displaced....it seems like there's not much discussion on the impact on the locals....
I had the chance to know Daniel, and he was a true American Hero.  He loved what he did, and he was true to himself.  This Hero will never be forgotten!!  Thank you for doing this story!
My husband was one of the soldiers that died with Daniel Scates. Raquel I think of you often just like the other families that there soldiers died with ours. Times has gone by and its been 7 months. There is not a day that goes by that I don't think of you and your kids. I look at my son and see his daddy in him. Sometimes I feel lucky because Colin was only 8 months and he really didn't know his dad but then again I rather have him know his father and know what kind of man he was. Raquel you are always in my thoughts and prayers... I am going to ft stewart and I am going to lay a flower on the guy's tree.

Lots of love

Christina Penrod
wife of Army Spc. Justin O Penrod
KIA 8-11-07
I just wanted to say that no matter how much I loved Daniel there were other soldiers that died that day with him and so many others since the begining of the war in Iraq.  I appreciate all of the men and women who have givin there lives defending our "freedom". I want everyone to know how much my family appreciates Mike Taibbi for this story.  He is also a true American Hero.  Mike has been to Iraq several times just so Daniel and many other soldiers stories can be told and not just the devastation.  Daniel would want us to honor Mr. Taibbi and his NBC news crew before honoring him.  RIP my great friend.  Raquel you and the girls our in our prayers.
You seem to like to report numbers, but NEVER put them in perspective. I realize that putting the number 4000 in perspective goes against your purpose of turning the American public against war, but I would like to see it done. How about you compare the 4000 KIAs to the number of people killed by drunk drivers over the same period? Oh, that's right, a person killed by a drunk driver isn't a life lost in vain!
I had the opportunity to befriend and work SSG Scates for for almost two years prior to his death.  He was the type of man who not only sacrificed for his soldiers but for those around him also.  He was a good friend and confidant to whom I could always turn for advice.  He will always be sorely missed but lives on in the hearts of his fellow soldiers who continue on.  Thank you for posting this story about him.  He may be gone, but he is certainly not forgotten.
It is better for the US forces to withdraw from Iraq than to get so humiliated by unprofessional forces led by Sadr.  Parents whose sons and daughters are fighting always experience nightmares which is very bad and Americans must vote out Republicans to ensure that the war in Iraq ends
Thank you Mr. Taibbi and NBC crew for your stories on Daniel our son-in-law. He was a dedicated brave soldier and loving husband, father and Hero who loved his job. He will never be forgotten looking into our two beautiful granddaughters eyes. We will be there for countless milestones they will encounter, and help our Daughter cope with this tragic loss. This war touches so many lives and after it is over will affect so many people. Thank you to all the brave soldiers that have fought for our "Freedom" and their families who have given up so much. Our thoughts and prayers are with you. God Bless. We will continue to support our troops. Rest in peace Daniel.


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