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Talkin' world war III blues

Posted: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:20 PM by Sam Singal
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By Brian Williams, Anchor and managing editor

President Bush got everyone’s attention this week when he raised the specter of World War III while discussing the potential nuclear threat posed by Iran. The risk of a third world war is the classic doomsday scenario, and it turns out -- as Andy Franklin's research confirms -- it’s one that has been invoked by presidents since – well, since soon after World War Two

Harry Truman mentioned World War III frequently, saying that avoiding such a war was part of the rationale for American involvement in Korea (“We are in a fight to stay out of World War III”), and for maintaining a strong military (“We must maintain large armed forces for a long time to come, if we are to protect our freedom and prevent World War III.”) He also raised the subject in a political context more than once, while taking on some of his Republican critics. In a June 1951 speech, Truman said, “Partisan efforts to label our foreign policy as appeasement -- to tag it as a policy of fear or timidity -- point to only one thing: They point to our "going it alone" down the road to World War III.” In the 1952 presidential race, Truman campaigned for Democratic nominee Adlai Stevenson – and against Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower. In an October 1952 speech, Truman said of Eisenhower, “I thought he would stand firmly behind the great defense effort we are making to hold off Communist aggression and prevent World War III… My friends, that is not the case.” In another speech that same month, he said, “No matter what the Republican candidate says, we shall not engage in appeasement. To do that would be to take the sure road to World War III.” Eisenhower won that year, of course, and history records that World War III did not break out during his presidency. In his 1956 re-election campaign kickoff speech, President Eisenhower observed, “The only way to win World War III is to prevent it.”

The subject of World War III emerged again in the 1960 presidential campaign. Democratic nominee John F. Kennedy brought it up in a speech to the American Legion on October 18, 1960. Kennedy cited the popular 1957 novel (and 1959 movie starring Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner) “On the Beach,” about “the lone American survivors of World War III.” Kennedy noted that one of the characters talks about running for president, and then said, “That is not the presidency for which I run. I don't want to be the president of a nation perishing under the mushroom cloud of a nuclear warhead.”

Republican nominee Richard Nixon warned that Kennedy’s policies could actually trigger a third world war. In a letter to Kennedy dated October 23, 1960, Nixon criticized him for advocating U.S. support of a popular uprising in Cuba to overthrow Fidel Castro. Such a policy, Nixon told Kennedy, “would give Mr. Khrushchev a valid excuse to intervene in Cuba on the side of the Castro government…If this happened, your policy could lead to World War III.”  Nixon’s comments eerily foreshadowed the 1961 Bay of Pigs fiasco and the subsequent Cuban Missile Crisis.

President Lyndon Johnson invoked World War III more than once. In an October 1966 speech, Johnson vowed that “American boys, almost half a million of them,” serving in Vietnam, “are never going to tuck their tails and run. They are never going to surrender. They are going to stay there until this aggression is checked before it blooms into World War III.” A year later, addressing a growing chorus of criticism, Johnson said, “I only wish that those who bewail war would bring me just one workable solution to end the war… [but] it must be a solution that does not call for surrender or for cutting and running now. Those fantasies hold the nightmare of World War III.”  And in a surprise visit to Vietnam itself just two days before Christmas in 1967, LBJ told U.S. troops in Cam Ranh Bay, “What you men are doing here today, you may very well prevent a wider war, a greater war -- a World War III”

Ronald Reagan repeatedly mentioned World War III in the context of his summits with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev. As Reagan recalled in a 1988 speech to the United Nations, “I said at the first meeting in Geneva that this was a unique encounter between two people who had the power to start World War III, or to begin a new age of peace among nations.”

And this past Wednesday was not the first time President Bush himself has mentioned World War III. Speaking in Orlando on September 21, 2006, Bush said, “And now Iraq is the central front on the war on terror. I hear people in the United States [say], ‘Well, that's not true.’ My advice to them is to listen carefully to the words of the enemy. Osama bin Laden has called Iraq World War III.”

Finally, a postscript. Observant readers will note that the title of today’s blog is taken from the Bob Dylan song of the same name: “Talkin’ World War III Blues,” from his second album, Freewheelin,’ released in 1963. Dylan may have come to mind because he reached something of a milestone this week. Bob Dylan has performed live throughout his career, but for a long time his tours were intermittent, rare, or non-existent. But since 1988, he’s been on the road pretty much non-stop. Fans call it the “Never-Ending Tour,” and Tuesday night in Dayton, Ohio, that tour made it to show number 2,000. Pretty amazing for a guy who got his start almost a half-century ago. Thanks, Bob.

We've got a terrific Friday edition of NBC Nightly News in the works for you. I look forward to having you join us. Have a great weekend. 

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Thanks Brian, first for the great compilation of information on WWIII, but also wrapping it in a reference to Bob Dylan. I was brought up in a household with a record player and very few albums, most of them by Bob Dylan. My dad owns ever album Bob Dylan ever recorded, and we've seen him in concert numerous times. I saw him a year ago, and was impressed by how spry and lively he is. Still playing, still enjoying it, and in fact he interacts more with the audiences than he ever did in the past. I had seen a couple of shows where he played the entire set with his back to the crowd. Like you said, Thanks Bob; for the music, for keeping it relevant, and for giving us the thought provoking material for nearly 50 years.
Brian

This post unfortunately minimizes the significance of Bush mentioning WW III, as if to say “all Presidents do it”. As you (and Andy Franklin) point out, Presidents have frequently made such allusions; however, all of them only used it in the sense of WW II being the “hot war” extension of the Cold War.

Bush using the phrase WW III means something different and ultimately, far more ominous.  Earlier this week, Bush used the phrase to describe what would happen if Iran obtained a nuclear weapon.   As the phrase “World War” means a war that is fought around the world by grand coalitions, using the phrase in the context of Iran implies that that Iran would be a major player in a worldwide coalition against the United States in such a war.   In the Cold War, the leaders of the Soviet bloc countries were clearly allied with the Soviet Union.  Our situation today is far more complicated, and using WW II analogies (“axis of evil”) or Cold War analogies (WW III) oversimplify what is going on in the Middle East today and unnecessarily raises tensions there and fears at home.  It's all a little too "freewheelin'" to say the least.
Good Evening Mr.Williams, I must start with comment about the conclusion of the broadcast. When you were attempting to show us a preview of the new Nightly News Studio. I am so very sorry you could not get the door open Mr.Williams. How could they lock you out of all people! They better let you in on Monday evening! Can't wait to see it! Now on to the broadcast this evening. Always awesome to see Richard on the broadcast! Richard's report about the two bombings in Karachi,Pakistan which almost killed Former Prime Minister Bhutto was so very tragic. The footage of the poor people injured seriously showed how much the plot to assasinate Bhutto was intended to kill her. She seemed as Richard stated defiant and moving forward in her campaign speeches. She appears not to be undone by this attempted plot and will fight for her country's people. Another great report by Richard! Now with regards to the drought in the Southeast I can certainly relate to that crisis. I was so glad to see a few raindrops this morning, but not nearly enough to rescue our state from this drought. I really and truly hope that they stop letting so much water out of Lake Lanier. As someone said to me today, "If we only have 81 days left, what so we do after that?" We have got to receive some rain soon! Then Mr.Savidge can report some good news about this situation. Finally, I enjoyed the "Making a Difference" series from the "China Rising" series. Building all those libraries and schools for those children is certainly a blessing. Enjoyed the history lesson from Andy Franklin about the Presidents discussing the risk of a World War III. Not something one would want to happen in this day and age. I didn't realize the title of the posting was from a Bob Dylan song. Thank you for the broadcast Mr.Williams! Stay safe Richard!! And I certainly hope you can get into the studio Monday Mr.Williams. Have a great weekend! See you Monday in the "new digs" Peace to all!    
Good evening, Mr. Williams:

Based upon some of the posts on the First Read blog, your report on the candidacy of Ron Paul will make many people happy, because there have been complaints that the press has not been giving his effort adequate coverage.

The lights out idea seems like a good one--maybe other cities can try that.  Turning off lights in rooms not in use was drilled into my thinking by my mother over 50 years ago, and it is till good advice.

Loved the story on the books for the Chinese schools.  Seeing the smiling faces of those beautiful children as they were given their books, was wonderful.  Made my happy just to see their joy over books (not computer games, etc.)

Looking forward to the seeing the new digs next week.  Will there be a housewarming party?  
Haha well from the way things have BEEN going I wouldn't be surprised if he actually DID start ww3.
"The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan" also contained the song "Masters Of War".  Although the song was written 44 years ago, the lyrics are universal.  They could easily apply to the current war and the current president and vice-president.  These are some of the lyrics:

Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do
Thank you for the great work you do every day Brian.  

I have a question.

Lately I have been seeing more and more reporting on what I would call "Scare Stories".  The latest is the story about IED's here in the states, or Iran creating an international incident that could lead to "WWIII".

My question is this;  Should these stories be released without having been confirmed by more than two sources?  Does it seem to you that this is a bit like yelling "FIRE!" in a movie theater when someone is seen lighting a cigarette?

In other words, some of these stories seem to be obvious plants.  The closer we get to the primaries, the more of these stories I see popping up.  I truely think these stories should be fully investigated by third patry sources before being allowed release on the nightly news.  If these stories are just that, stories, someone should be brought up on charges for allowing them into the media sphere.

The proliferation of more fear without justifiable cause could be construed as deliberate mis-information and a diliberate attempt to scare people into an alternate reality of the real world situation.  

Sure, there is a lot of news that makes people worry, that is legitimate news. However, much of these stories are so obviously blown out of proportion for shock value, or maybe to serve a certain purpose, other than truth in information, and the ultimate goal of media to give people a view of the real "Reality".
I should have added in my last question:

More children have died in swimming pools over the last ten years then terrorist attacks have killed in the last ten years.  

I don't see the story on the news, and I certainly don't see the Department of Homeland Security guarding our swimming pools.  So on the grand scale of things, how dangerous are these people, really?

Sometimes perspective means the difference between panic or fear, and informed caution.
Although your history lessons are nice....i still prefer the "behind the scenes insight" that this space once provided..I hope once you moved into your awesome new studio and settle in your office, we, the viewers, can get the full early and daily nightly expierence one again...
i believe it is looney bin time for GWB.lest we all forget who was the only country to use a nuclear device against people at any time.mabey we should rem.who sold weapons to the taliban against the russians,also what country raved against the use of mercinarys in time of war,also what happened to the geneva convention on the treatment of prisioners?lest we all forget just exactly who is carlyle corp.?
So, I'm eager to hear the story behind the story, of what happened with the locked door at the end of the newscast.

And secondly, at the very end, you are seen turning back toward the locked door. What did you do next? Do tell...

Thanks,
E
God, Brian, just how smart are you anyway?  Do you write all these
great blogs all by yourself or do you have help?  Is that a really
stupid question? i know we've both been around since A. Lincoln's
day and you have those lovely trifocals to prove it.,.but seems
like you're overly smart.
First of all, why do you report such an ominous statement, made by a man just wreckless enough to follow through with it, and then discount the weight of the statement by listing other mentions of WWIII by other presidents? If the statement is serious, why discount it? If not, why report on it? The crimes this "president" has committed have been glossed over by the press too often and his total lack of accomplishment has been ignored. Whatever happened to Journalists? You remember, the ones who reported the news using facts and who asked hard questions? By the way, you should have added in you cute ending remark that the point of "Talking WWIII Blues" was that people shouldn't entertain scenarios of total destruction without the realization that your own life is just as much in jeopardy as the next guy's; it is far better to invite your fellow human into your dream of the future and by so doing, be invited into theirs.
Although this poem was penned over 80 years ago, the lyrics are universal.  They could easily apply to the current war and the current draft dodging president and vice-president who have ordered thousands of men to their deaths, but who have never and never will put their own lives at risk for their country.  

Base Details
Siegfried Sassoon

If I were fierce, and bald, and short of breath,
 I’d live with scarlet Majors at the Base,
And speed glum heroes up the line to death.
 You’d see me with my puffy petulant face,
Guzzling and gulping in the best hotel,
 Reading the Roll of Honour. “Poor young chap,”
I’d say—”I used to know his father well;
 Yes, we’ve lost heavily in this last scrap.”
And when the war is done and youth stone dead,
 I’d toddle safely home and die—in bed.

Online text © 1998-2007 Poetry X. All rights reserved.
From Counter-Attack and Other Poems | E. P. Dutton, 1918
Speaking of war, why do we see no stories on what the Army does each day in Iraq?  It looks like they just drive up an down the road and get shot, sort of like the shooting gallary at a carnival.
So have we had enough of this idiot in the White House yet? This guy is by far the WORST prez we have ever had. His actions are irrational and incompetent.He has no clue as to what is happening in the world.And now the words "world war 3" are coming out of his stupid mouth.Let him go back to sleeping with the arabs.After all,isn"t that where him and his father got all their money from in the first place?The dixie chicks were right. He is an embarresment.


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